that is not true. Don't forget most wall street and silicon valley tycoons did not like Trump at the very beginning, but he still got elected. As a puppet of enterprises, he should support TPP instead of abolishing it at the first day of taking office.
BYD: Road to Dominance of Electric Vehicle/Transport
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BYD Announces Electric Bus Fleet Contracts in Europe
Posted by Lauren Tyler on December 28, 2016
BYD, one of the world’s largest electric vehicle (EV) companies specializing in battery technology, has announced that itwon Italy’s first big tender for electric buses and will deliver 19 of its 12-meter pure electric buses in a deal worth over EUR 10 million, or $10.39 million.
According to the company, the tender was released by Gruppo Torinese Trasporti (GTT), the bus operator in Turin, a city in northern Italy, in autumn last year.
Under the contract, BYD will supply a fleet of long-range, full-size e-buses, together with 10-year full service support, that will operate on the Piedmont Region’s urban transport networks, serving key cities such as Turin and Novara from summer 2017. The e-buses will connect the city centers with suburban areas, the company notes.
“Thanks to the vision of GTT to make Turin green, this order ensures that Italy, together with the U.K. and France, is a top market for BYD in Europe,” says Isbrand Ho, managing director of BYD Europe. “We have consistently said that we would have ‘lift off’ in Europe when our order book exceeded 100 e-buses. These Italian orders bring the current total to over 100 units: We have truly arrived.”
BYD says that several other Italian operators are showing an increasing interest in pure electric technology, as well. The company says it recently signed a partnership agreement with Enel, an Italian multinational power corporation, to begin cooperation on new energy vehicle development, in addition to large-scale power storage and household energy storage projects.
In addition, the company says that the Nottingham City Council in the U.K. recently inaugurated a fleet of 13 BYD e-buses, along with associated charging equipment. According to the company, this is the first e-bus fleet launched by BYD in the U.K. outside of London, where BYD supplied Europe’s largest e-bus fleet on behalf of Transport for London.
The bus purchase in Nottingham was supported by a $1.73 million grant from the DfT Green Bus Fund, which accounted for one-third of the contract’s total value.
As previously reported, BYD recently named Leonardo DiCaprio the new brand ambassador in China for BYD’s line of new energy vehicles.
http://ngtnews.com/byd-announces-electric-bus-fleet-contracts-in-europe
Posted by Lauren Tyler on December 28, 2016
BYD, one of the world’s largest electric vehicle (EV) companies specializing in battery technology, has announced that itwon Italy’s first big tender for electric buses and will deliver 19 of its 12-meter pure electric buses in a deal worth over EUR 10 million, or $10.39 million.
According to the company, the tender was released by Gruppo Torinese Trasporti (GTT), the bus operator in Turin, a city in northern Italy, in autumn last year.
Under the contract, BYD will supply a fleet of long-range, full-size e-buses, together with 10-year full service support, that will operate on the Piedmont Region’s urban transport networks, serving key cities such as Turin and Novara from summer 2017. The e-buses will connect the city centers with suburban areas, the company notes.
“Thanks to the vision of GTT to make Turin green, this order ensures that Italy, together with the U.K. and France, is a top market for BYD in Europe,” says Isbrand Ho, managing director of BYD Europe. “We have consistently said that we would have ‘lift off’ in Europe when our order book exceeded 100 e-buses. These Italian orders bring the current total to over 100 units: We have truly arrived.”
BYD says that several other Italian operators are showing an increasing interest in pure electric technology, as well. The company says it recently signed a partnership agreement with Enel, an Italian multinational power corporation, to begin cooperation on new energy vehicle development, in addition to large-scale power storage and household energy storage projects.
In addition, the company says that the Nottingham City Council in the U.K. recently inaugurated a fleet of 13 BYD e-buses, along with associated charging equipment. According to the company, this is the first e-bus fleet launched by BYD in the U.K. outside of London, where BYD supplied Europe’s largest e-bus fleet on behalf of Transport for London.
The bus purchase in Nottingham was supported by a $1.73 million grant from the DfT Green Bus Fund, which accounted for one-third of the contract’s total value.
As previously reported, BYD recently named Leonardo DiCaprio the new brand ambassador in China for BYD’s line of new energy vehicles.
http://ngtnews.com/byd-announces-electric-bus-fleet-contracts-in-europe
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LOL That is the dumbest post I ever seen.
It means A LOT! It means the influence BYD will have on the future electric car is a lot more. it means BYD can employ more people = happiness for everyone. It means BYD can change the direction of energy efficient car. It means BYD will be the CHAMPION of the new age of GLOBAL WARMING! This is why I said you are a joke when trying to understand the ramification of future success.
Again, nice joke. Berkshre Hathaway doesn't have controlling stake and can't influence the direction of the company. Many of the US banks is also owned by middle east royal, I guess you can call it Middle east company too. You are a joke! LOL
To him, everything is like black and white. He is a superficial person who believe that everyone wearing brand name gucci bag will make him feel special and better than anyone even though the practical function of getting end meet is the same. LOL
BTW, there is no guarantee that BYD will not enter the supercar market or buying up big name supercar brand under their subsidiary. BYD is going to be a huge future company. If you into stock, buy up BYD stock. Highly recommend!
It means A LOT! It means the influence BYD will have on the future electric car is a lot more. it means BYD can employ more people = happiness for everyone. It means BYD can change the direction of energy efficient car. It means BYD will be the CHAMPION of the new age of GLOBAL WARMING! This is why I said you are a joke when trying to understand the ramification of future success.
Again, nice joke. Berkshre Hathaway doesn't have controlling stake and can't influence the direction of the company. Many of the US banks is also owned by middle east royal, I guess you can call it Middle east company too. You are a joke! LOL
The guy is just a joke. He doesn't understand that Toyota have a MUCH larger impact on car industry than Porsche. LOL
To him, everything is like black and white. He is a superficial person who believe that everyone wearing brand name gucci bag will make him feel special and better than anyone even though the practical function of getting end meet is the same. LOL
BTW, there is no guarantee that BYD will not enter the supercar market or buying up big name supercar brand under their subsidiary. BYD is going to be a huge future company. If you into stock, buy up BYD stock. Highly recommend!
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LOL
Yes, everyone starts off small and gone big. Same with computer industry. Even I don't like electric car, but I got to admit that is where the future is heading. The gasoline car age will not be here forever for the simple fact that petro countries have too much influence on gas price. That beside adding to global warming.
Those other types of energy car, the hydro kinds, are not feasible for mass consumer due to cost and impracticality. Those are a niche type car. Any company that can save global warming on a massive scale will be champ. And car industry is one area that contribute a lot to global warming.
Like I told you, it's not easy to sold abroad without factory and supply chain. It takes decade to build supply chain global infrastructure to meet those needs. It doesn't take Toyota a few years to build those global chain where their car ecosystem, from designing, manufacturing, maintaining, repair and service create a huge INDUSTRIAL SCALE job opportunity for million of people globally. Right now, electric car is still early in its adoption.
I said, never underestimate the dirty poor consumer. They are afterall the mass population that determine the world future.
Yes, everyone starts off small and gone big. Same with computer industry. Even I don't like electric car, but I got to admit that is where the future is heading. The gasoline car age will not be here forever for the simple fact that petro countries have too much influence on gas price. That beside adding to global warming.
Those other types of energy car, the hydro kinds, are not feasible for mass consumer due to cost and impracticality. Those are a niche type car. Any company that can save global warming on a massive scale will be champ. And car industry is one area that contribute a lot to global warming.
Like I told you, it's not easy to sold abroad without factory and supply chain. It takes decade to build supply chain global infrastructure to meet those needs. It doesn't take Toyota a few years to build those global chain where their car ecosystem, from designing, manufacturing, maintaining, repair and service create a huge INDUSTRIAL SCALE job opportunity for million of people globally. Right now, electric car is still early in its adoption.
I said, never underestimate the dirty poor consumer. They are afterall the mass population that determine the world future.
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BYD accelerates green autos
China Daily, December 29, 2016
Carmaker BYD Co has vowed to scale up its output of new energy vehicles to cut costs, as the government gradually phases out subsidies for green energy vehicles.
The company will also boost its production of new energy vehicle batteries in order to lower production costs, it said.
The battery remains the key component of a new energy vehicle, accounting for 30 to 40 percent of its total production cost.
Considering the government's subsidy for new energy vehicles will decrease by 20 percent in 2017, the company has to cut its costs by 5 to 10 percent to compensate for this.
According to the Ministry of Finance, China will reduce the 2017-18 subsidies for new energy vehicles by 20 percent from those granted in 2016, and further cut them by 40 percent in the 2019-20 period.
All subsidies will be phased out after 2020, it said.
China started offering subsidies to boost the production of clean energy vehicles in 2009, and 33.4 billion yuan ($4.81 billion) had been earmarked by the end of 2015, said the ministry.
However, the one-size-fits-all subsidy has made some carmakers rely too heavily on the government's financial stimulus, and they are reluctant to invest in research and development, with some manufacturers even taking subsidies as a source of quick money.
According to BYD, the company has been preparing for the end of the subsidies.
Zhang Zhiyong, an auto analyst based in Beijing, said ending the subsidies will have an overall beneficial effect on the industry, as it will drive out those just seeking to make a quick buck.
According to Chen Qingtai, director of China EV100, a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting new energy vehicles, Chinese carmakers should focus on research and development to make themselves more competitive, as international rivals are coming up with an increasing number of products.
SAIC Motor said it would raise another 15 billion yuan for research and development of new energy vehicles, while Volkswagen AG also plans to introduce around 10 electric car models based on its electric-only Modular Electric Model lineup to the Chinese market over 10 years.
Chinese green vehicle producers Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd and Chery Automobile Co Ltd also said earlier they would focus on the research and development of electric vehicles over the next decade.
China Daily, December 29, 2016
Carmaker BYD Co has vowed to scale up its output of new energy vehicles to cut costs, as the government gradually phases out subsidies for green energy vehicles.
The company will also boost its production of new energy vehicle batteries in order to lower production costs, it said.
The battery remains the key component of a new energy vehicle, accounting for 30 to 40 percent of its total production cost.
Considering the government's subsidy for new energy vehicles will decrease by 20 percent in 2017, the company has to cut its costs by 5 to 10 percent to compensate for this.
According to the Ministry of Finance, China will reduce the 2017-18 subsidies for new energy vehicles by 20 percent from those granted in 2016, and further cut them by 40 percent in the 2019-20 period.
All subsidies will be phased out after 2020, it said.
China started offering subsidies to boost the production of clean energy vehicles in 2009, and 33.4 billion yuan ($4.81 billion) had been earmarked by the end of 2015, said the ministry.
However, the one-size-fits-all subsidy has made some carmakers rely too heavily on the government's financial stimulus, and they are reluctant to invest in research and development, with some manufacturers even taking subsidies as a source of quick money.
According to BYD, the company has been preparing for the end of the subsidies.
Zhang Zhiyong, an auto analyst based in Beijing, said ending the subsidies will have an overall beneficial effect on the industry, as it will drive out those just seeking to make a quick buck.
According to Chen Qingtai, director of China EV100, a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting new energy vehicles, Chinese carmakers should focus on research and development to make themselves more competitive, as international rivals are coming up with an increasing number of products.
SAIC Motor said it would raise another 15 billion yuan for research and development of new energy vehicles, while Volkswagen AG also plans to introduce around 10 electric car models based on its electric-only Modular Electric Model lineup to the Chinese market over 10 years.
Chinese green vehicle producers Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd and Chery Automobile Co Ltd also said earlier they would focus on the research and development of electric vehicles over the next decade.
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In time.... things will change.
Exactly, just like Apple against Huawei, Lenovo, Oppo, etc.
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BYD recommended for Argentinean electric bus tender
China.org.cn, January 11, 2017
Chinese renewable energy technology company BYD has been officially selected as the recommended company by the evaluation committee in Argentina for the purchase of 50 electric buses on behalf of the Ministry of Environment.
The tender was launched by the Ministry of Environment as a pilot project for the introduction of electric public transport in different cities throughout the country. The bid evaluation committee chose BYD from a pool of 5 bidders for its successful 12-meter electric bus, which is already widely used in cities such as London, Los Angeles, Amsterdam, etc.
BYD begun the promotion of its technologies in Argentina in 2011 through its local subsidiary, especially those related to electric vehicles and public transport. In November 2011, the company signed its first MOU with the Ministry of Industry and the Secretary of Transport. During BYD's senior-level management visit to the country in May 2016, Argentinean President Mauricio Macri and Minister of Environment Sergio Bergman expressed their high expectations for the introduction of BYD technologies and electric vehicle models to their nation's public transportation systems.
BYD expects to receive the necessary allocation within the next few weeks.
To better satisfy market demands, BYD plans to build a new local manufacturing plant in Argentina. This plant would bring foreign investment to Argentina and will have a significant impact on the creation of new jobs.
Named one of "China's Most Admired Companies" by Fortune China in 2016, BYD is committed to driving forward green mobility solutions to help address challenges and concerns related to traffic congestion.
In 2010, the company announced its "electric public transport" strategy for green mobility, which focuses on low-carbon electric vehicles as a prioritized public transport option to reduce traffic-related emissions in cities. This has now become adopted as a national strategy in China. At present, BYD's electric buses and other new energy vehicles have expanded to 240 cities across 50 countries.
BYD looks forward to presenting Argentina with comprehensive Green City Solutions, including other electric mobility technologies – in particular its new "SkyRail" monorail – in order to help the country face environmental challenges, such as traffic congestion and transport-related emissions.
BYD and its shareholders see these environmentally and economically friendly products as the way of the future.
China.org.cn, January 11, 2017
Chinese renewable energy technology company BYD has been officially selected as the recommended company by the evaluation committee in Argentina for the purchase of 50 electric buses on behalf of the Ministry of Environment.
The tender was launched by the Ministry of Environment as a pilot project for the introduction of electric public transport in different cities throughout the country. The bid evaluation committee chose BYD from a pool of 5 bidders for its successful 12-meter electric bus, which is already widely used in cities such as London, Los Angeles, Amsterdam, etc.
BYD begun the promotion of its technologies in Argentina in 2011 through its local subsidiary, especially those related to electric vehicles and public transport. In November 2011, the company signed its first MOU with the Ministry of Industry and the Secretary of Transport. During BYD's senior-level management visit to the country in May 2016, Argentinean President Mauricio Macri and Minister of Environment Sergio Bergman expressed their high expectations for the introduction of BYD technologies and electric vehicle models to their nation's public transportation systems.
BYD expects to receive the necessary allocation within the next few weeks.
To better satisfy market demands, BYD plans to build a new local manufacturing plant in Argentina. This plant would bring foreign investment to Argentina and will have a significant impact on the creation of new jobs.
Named one of "China's Most Admired Companies" by Fortune China in 2016, BYD is committed to driving forward green mobility solutions to help address challenges and concerns related to traffic congestion.
In 2010, the company announced its "electric public transport" strategy for green mobility, which focuses on low-carbon electric vehicles as a prioritized public transport option to reduce traffic-related emissions in cities. This has now become adopted as a national strategy in China. At present, BYD's electric buses and other new energy vehicles have expanded to 240 cities across 50 countries.
BYD looks forward to presenting Argentina with comprehensive Green City Solutions, including other electric mobility technologies – in particular its new "SkyRail" monorail – in order to help the country face environmental challenges, such as traffic congestion and transport-related emissions.
BYD and its shareholders see these environmentally and economically friendly products as the way of the future.
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That's the western model. As long as it look cool who need substance. The American car companies are good examples. After 100 years manufacturing cars, their cars still suck.
3DR a shitty drone designed in murica, died in murica
This fake professional will do just that.
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BYD to sell 50 electric buses to Argentina
2017-01-11 10:19
China Daily Editor: Feng Shuang
BYD Co, China's largest electric vehicle maker, has beaten out five bidders to win a bid to sell 50 electric buses to Argentina, according to the renewable energy technology company.
The contest was launched by the Ministry of Environment as a pilot project to introduce electric public transport in different cities throughout Argentina.
The bid evaluation committee chose BYD amongst a pool of five bidders for its successful 12-meter electric bus, which is already widely used in cities such as London, Los Angeles and Amsterdam.
BYD started to promote its technologies in Argentina in 2011 through its local subsidiary, especially those related to electric vehicles and public transport.
The company signed its first MOU with the Ministry of Industry and the Secretary of Transport in Nov 2011.
Argentinean President Mauricio Macri and Minister of Environment Sergio Bergman spoke highly of the introduction of BYD technologies and electric vehicle models to their nation's public transportation systems.
To better satisfy market demands, BYD plans to build a new local manufacturing plant in Argentina, which is expected to bring foreign investment and jobs to the country.
Called one of "China's Most Admired Companies" by Fortune China in 2016, BYD is committed to driving green mobility solutions forward to help address the challenges and concerns related to traffic congestion.
BYD's electric bus and other new environmentally friendly vehicles have expanded their footprint to 240 cities across 50 countries.
According to BYD, the company looks forward to presenting Argentina with comprehensive Green City Solutions, including other electric mobility technologies such as the new "SkyRail" monorail designed to help the country reduce traffic congestion and transport-related emissions.
BYD said the company, along with its shareholders, including Warren Buffet, sees these environmentally and economically advanced products as the way of the future.
http://www.ecns.cn/business/2017/01-11/241087.shtml
2017-01-11 10:19
China Daily Editor: Feng Shuang
BYD Co, China's largest electric vehicle maker, has beaten out five bidders to win a bid to sell 50 electric buses to Argentina, according to the renewable energy technology company.
The contest was launched by the Ministry of Environment as a pilot project to introduce electric public transport in different cities throughout Argentina.
The bid evaluation committee chose BYD amongst a pool of five bidders for its successful 12-meter electric bus, which is already widely used in cities such as London, Los Angeles and Amsterdam.
BYD started to promote its technologies in Argentina in 2011 through its local subsidiary, especially those related to electric vehicles and public transport.
The company signed its first MOU with the Ministry of Industry and the Secretary of Transport in Nov 2011.
Argentinean President Mauricio Macri and Minister of Environment Sergio Bergman spoke highly of the introduction of BYD technologies and electric vehicle models to their nation's public transportation systems.
To better satisfy market demands, BYD plans to build a new local manufacturing plant in Argentina, which is expected to bring foreign investment and jobs to the country.
Called one of "China's Most Admired Companies" by Fortune China in 2016, BYD is committed to driving green mobility solutions forward to help address the challenges and concerns related to traffic congestion.
BYD's electric bus and other new environmentally friendly vehicles have expanded their footprint to 240 cities across 50 countries.
According to BYD, the company looks forward to presenting Argentina with comprehensive Green City Solutions, including other electric mobility technologies such as the new "SkyRail" monorail designed to help the country reduce traffic congestion and transport-related emissions.
BYD said the company, along with its shareholders, including Warren Buffet, sees these environmentally and economically advanced products as the way of the future.
http://www.ecns.cn/business/2017/01-11/241087.shtml
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BYD plans to set up two bus plants
Updated: 2017-01-10 (China Daily)
Two employees polish the frames of an electric bus at BYD's bus factory in Lancaster, California in the United States. [Photo/Xinhua]
Company's founder sees monorail as the firm's next area for major growth
BYD Co, China's largest electric vehicle maker, plans to set up two new factories in Latin America this year to produce electric buses, as it seeks to overcome obstacles in selling them to more cities at home.
The new factories will produce for the local markets and add to existing plants in the US, Hungary and Brazil. Expanding overseas has proved to be easier in some cases than expanding in China, said Senior Vice-President Stella Li. BYD expects its overseas electric bus business to turn profitable this year, she said.
"We have been trying really hard to get into Beijing and other cities that are heavily polluted and just couldn't do it for unknown reasons
," Li said in an interview in Las Vegas, where she was attending the CES 2017 trade show. "Entering into those cities is way more difficult than getting into developed countries such as the US and Europe that are famous for intense competition and high industry standards."
BYD's billionaire founder Wang Chuanfu started BYD as a manufacturer of handset batteries and is pushing the company into the monorail business, identifying it as the company's next major growth, area after building the company into the biggest producer of electric vehicles in China. Monorails are a more affordable and feasible option for smaller cities than a subway system, and the company is in discussions several countries about exporting the light-transit systems, he said last month.
The monorail business will be the biggest driving force for BYD's growth this year and the company is expected to announce many orders for the light transit this year, Li said declining to be specific. Investors have yet to adequately understand the potential contribution of monorail to BYD's bottom-line, she said.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/beijing/2017-01/10/content_27922455.htm
Updated: 2017-01-10 (China Daily)
Two employees polish the frames of an electric bus at BYD's bus factory in Lancaster, California in the United States. [Photo/Xinhua]
Company's founder sees monorail as the firm's next area for major growth
BYD Co, China's largest electric vehicle maker, plans to set up two new factories in Latin America this year to produce electric buses, as it seeks to overcome obstacles in selling them to more cities at home.
The new factories will produce for the local markets and add to existing plants in the US, Hungary and Brazil. Expanding overseas has proved to be easier in some cases than expanding in China, said Senior Vice-President Stella Li. BYD expects its overseas electric bus business to turn profitable this year, she said.
"We have been trying really hard to get into Beijing and other cities that are heavily polluted and just couldn't do it for unknown reasons
," Li said in an interview in Las Vegas, where she was attending the CES 2017 trade show. "Entering into those cities is way more difficult than getting into developed countries such as the US and Europe that are famous for intense competition and high industry standards."BYD's billionaire founder Wang Chuanfu started BYD as a manufacturer of handset batteries and is pushing the company into the monorail business, identifying it as the company's next major growth, area after building the company into the biggest producer of electric vehicles in China. Monorails are a more affordable and feasible option for smaller cities than a subway system, and the company is in discussions several countries about exporting the light-transit systems, he said last month.
The monorail business will be the biggest driving force for BYD's growth this year and the company is expected to announce many orders for the light transit this year, Li said declining to be specific. Investors have yet to adequately understand the potential contribution of monorail to BYD's bottom-line, she said.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/beijing/2017-01/10/content_27922455.htm
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Electric buses and electric cars are going to take over very soon.
Oil is being kept at low levels so that such technology is not persued and people are not inclined to purchase electric vehicles.
I wish all the best to electric vehicle manufacturers especially Tesla, keep up the good work.
Oil is being kept at low levels so that such technology is not persued and people are not inclined to purchase electric vehicles.
I wish all the best to electric vehicle manufacturers especially Tesla, keep up the good work.
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do you want to know something interesting? electric cars do as much damage to the environment as petrol powered car if not more.Electric buses and electric cars are going to take over very soon.
Oil is being kept at low levels so that such technology is not persued and people are not inclined to purchase electric vehicles.
I wish all the best to electric vehicle manufacturers especially Tesla, keep up the good work.
why you may ask?
the precious metals required for the batteries and motors such as nickel, magnesium, cobalt and lithium thats need to be extracted from the earth are very difficult to mine since they are very few places you can get them and even there its very sparse. so a hypothetical scenario would be it would take 1000 tonnes to make about 100 tonnes of steel but for lithium1000 tonnes would only get you a fraction of what you'd get if you were mining steel. obviously the numbers are incorrect but they give you an idea of the how much more mining you need to do to get the precious metals at the quantities you what.
also ask your self when your charging your electric car where is this power coming from?
my opinion. hydrogen powered cars are the future but before that we need to look at bioethanol
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Metal can recycle. Fossil Fuel can't. Bioethanol will put strain on food chain with population ever increasing.
Hydrogen still produces pollution.
Many companies are working to develop technologies that might efficiently exploit the potential of hydrogen energy for use in motor vehicles. As of November 2013 there are demonstration fleets of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles undergoing field testing including the Chevrolet Equinox Fuel Cell, Honda FCX Clarity, Hyundai ix35 FCEV and Mercedes-Benz B-Class F-Cell.[5] The drawbacks of hydrogen use are high carbon emissions intensity when produced from natural gas, capital cost burden, low energy content per unit volume, low performance of fuel cell vehicles compared with gasoline vehicles, production and compression of hydrogen, and the large investment in infrastructure that would be required to fuel vehicles
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every thing has its highs and lows but arable land is unfortunately a low for bio-ethanol but brazil has managed just fine.
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Yes, battery grade lithium production is quite polluting as the current method does not allow "Clean" (both environment term and industrial term) extraction, Lithium is a highly reactive metal, and the only way we can extract Lithium is to burn (or deoxidize) the oxide and water from the lithium and extract lithium this way, and this process will produce almost as much, if not more greenhouse gas than internal combustion engine.
Electric car is not going to change the world,at least not the electric car in this generation, most people buy them just to make a statement, I mean, my wife drive a Prius and I drive a Volvo, and in effect her prius is almost always in our garage
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