BYD Outsells Tesla in 2022, Delivering 1.86 Million Units, Mainly in China

[A1Kaid]

Obviously much cheaper EV is going to outsell Tesla in China, even Honda/Toyota outsells Tesla. Chinese with money will prefer Tesla over BYD cars.

 

[从八品主簿]

Obviously much cheaper EV is going to outsell Tesla in China, even Honda/Toyota outsells Tesla. Chinese with money will prefer Tesla over BYD cars.

What more do you say? ? ? There is no such thing as Japanese cars in the electric car market. 85% of China's electric vehicle market belongs to Chinese brands, and the rest are brands such as Tesla and Volvo, and there are almost no Japanese cars.

 

[F-22Raptor]

LOL.. That is the best Tesla going to enjoy. 2023 will be even more brutal. Better sell your Tesla stock and take lost before further damage. They even need to give steep discount show how desperate times is, Stock price also reflect that.

Poor Tesla and their investor! Tesla is finished. I told you that and BYD will steal their lunch. Fools like you blindly follow and pay the price!


It is the Chinese who implement those plans not American. See how BYD also easily ramp up their production. Clearly show its Chinese who innovate. Tom Zhu even need to be send to teach white American a few things in US Tesla. Obviously, it a Chinese improvise method. Nothing to do with American.

I’m out of the stock with several hundred $K in profit.

Teslas growth story remains. Record quarter after record quarter. Even with price cuts in China, Tesla is still at 20% margins. Meanwhile BYD is selling vehicles at $20K and earning no profits. BYD has done well to ramp and sell at volume, but they are the Xiaomi of the EV world. Little to no profits and caters to the lower class.

Tesla is the Apple of the EV world. Tesla needs to focus now on a $25-30K model, ramping Berlin and Texas, and releasing Cybertruck.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

BYD does not only make cars, it also makes buses, trucks, batteries. Hell, not even Tesla can do that.

 

[beijingwalker]

I’m out of the stock with several hundred $K in profit.

Teslas growth story remains. Record quarter after record quarter. Even with price cuts in China, Tesla is still at 20% margins. Meanwhile BYD is selling vehicles at $20K and earning no profits. BYD has done well to ramp and sell at volume, but they are the Xiaomi of the EV world. Little to no profits and caters to the lower class.

Tesla is the Apple of the EV world. Tesla needs to focus now on a $25-30K model, ramping Berlin and Texas, and releasing Cybertruck.

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[Hamartia Antidote]

It is the Chinese who implement those plans not American.

How come it was not Chinese EV companies coming up with "those plans" first on their own?

Always Western innovation lurking behind great achievements!!

 

[Beast]

How come it was not Chinese EV companies coming up with "those plans" first on their own?

Always Western innovation lurking behind great achievements!!

Tell me, why Chinese Tesla team need to be send to US to teach those American? I though you say its started by AmericanTesla?

Btw, BYD also massed produced more EV than Tesla and even cheaper than Tesla Model 3. So it cannot be a white American invention, right?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Btw, BYD also massed produced more EV than Tesla and even cheaper than Tesla Model 3. So it cannot be a white American invention, right?

LOL! No, BYD did not surpass Tesla in BEV production.
You can see the number breakdown in this post by a Chinese member.

The cumulative sales of BYD electric vehicles in 2022 will be 1.8635 million units, a year-on-year increase of 208.64%

On January 2, 2023, BYD (01211.HK) announced that the sales volume of new energy vehicles in December 2022 was 235,200, compared with 93,900 in the same period last year; the cumulative sales in 2022 were 1,863,500, a year-on-year increase of 208.64%. In terms of output, the output of new energy...

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"sales of pure electric vehicles were 911,140, a year-on-year increase of 184%; plug-in hybrid sales were 946,239 units"


You just want to sneak in numbers of gasoline and battery PHEV cars which you know Tesla does not make. So you are comparing apples to oranges.

Tesla's BEV sales were FAR higher than BYD's. How come BYD can't sell the same number of all-battery cars as Tesla??

Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022, growth of 40% over last year

Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022, growth of 40% over last year

www.cnbc.com

Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022

Tell me, why Chinese Tesla team need to be send to US to teach those American?

Because he sent his best high-ranking American Tesla team members to Twitter

Elon Musk has pulled more than 50 Tesla employees into his Twitter takeover

Tesla employees who Musk enlisted to help with his Twitter takeover include Autopilot engineers, security information workers and other lieutenants.

www.cnbc.com

Remember he controls 3 multi-Billion dollar companies and one builds huge rockets...so he knows a lot about production facilities.

The Tesla factory in Fremont was built in 1984 by Toyota/GM for their "Nummi" joint venture. So they are working in a building designed almost 40 years ago. Tesla has said this building is not designed well for their production.

Using all the lessons they learned from dealing with a 40 year old building they have built 3 new ones in Shanghai (2020), Texas (2022), and Berlin (2022).

These new buildings were not designed by the Chinese.

Tesla Shanghai construction

Giga Berlin construction

Giga Austin construction

 

[Beast]

LOL! No, BYD did not surpass Tesla in BEV production.
You can see the number breakdown in this post by a Chinese member.

The cumulative sales of BYD electric vehicles in 2022 will be 1.8635 million units, a year-on-year increase of 208.64%

On January 2, 2023, BYD (01211.HK) announced that the sales volume of new energy vehicles in December 2022 was 235,200, compared with 93,900 in the same period last year; the cumulative sales in 2022 were 1,863,500, a year-on-year increase of 208.64%. In terms of output, the output of new energy...

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"sales of pure electric vehicles were 911,140, a year-on-year increase of 184%; plug-in hybrid sales were 946,239 units"


You just want to sneak in numbers of gasoline and battery PHEV cars which you know Tesla does not make. So you are comparing apples to oranges.

Tesla's BEV sales were FAR higher than BYD's. How come BYD can't sell the same number of all-battery cars as Tesla??

Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022, growth of 40% over last year

Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022, growth of 40% over last year

www.cnbc.com

Tesla reports 1.31 million deliveries in 2022


Because he sent his best high-ranking American Tesla team members to Twitter

Elon Musk has pulled more than 50 Tesla employees into his Twitter takeover

Tesla employees who Musk enlisted to help with his Twitter takeover include Autopilot engineers, security information workers and other lieutenants.

www.cnbc.com

Remember he controls 3 multi-Billion dollar companies and one builds huge rockets...so he knows a lot about production facilities.

The Tesla factory in Fremont was built in 1984 by Toyota/GM for their "Nummi" joint venture. So they are working in a building designed almost 40 years ago. Tesla has said this building is not designed well for their production.

Using all the lessons they learned from dealing with a 40 year old building they have built 3 new ones in Shanghai (2020), Texas (2022), and Berlin (2022).

These new buildings were not designed by the Chinese.

Tesla Shanghai construction

Giga Berlin construction

Giga Austin construction

Keep dreaming. Even hybrid is considered EV, They can run on battery and not gasoline is needed. BYD produced more and better than Tesla, this is fact. You can keep deluded yourself.

As for the factory, common sense tells you if the Giga factory is an American idea. Tom Zhu shouldnt be send to US to teach them a thing about mass production. You can keep pulling out those fake videos and delusion link. But common sense and fact tells you, all credit goes to Tom Zhu and Chinese team for chunking out mass Tesla Model 3.

 

[Dungeness]

Obviously much cheaper EV is going to outsell Tesla in China, even Honda/Toyota outsells Tesla. Chinese with money will prefer Tesla over BYD cars.

Not really. They will prefer this BYD than anything Tesla has to offer:

 

[Beast]

Obviously much cheaper EV is going to outsell Tesla in China, even Honda/Toyota outsells Tesla. Chinese with money will prefer Tesla over BYD cars.

Then why is there buyers for BYD Han? Its premium category more costly than Tesla 3. Must some evil CCP scheme that buy it up to support homegrown companies, right?

 

[Dungeness]

"sales of pure electric vehicles were 911,140, a year-on-year increase of 184%; plug-in hybrid sales were 946,239 units"

Even on BEV, BYD has the momentum. I won't be surprised if BYD takes the crown from Tesla next year. Besides, what's the point to discounting a PHEV as an EV if they offer at least 50-80 miles pure battery range? Tesla may have sold a lot of more cars if it offered PHEV models.

 

[Dungeness]

How come it was not Chinese EV companies coming up with "those plans" first on their own?

Always Western innovation lurking behind great achievements!!

It was a Chinese company that came up with the world's first production PHEV model on its own in 2008, way earlier than Chevrolet and Toyota. The company is BYD. “Always” is too big a word to use when it comes to innovation.

And now China's success is measured by that of the collective "West". Interesting!

 

[beijingwalker]

But Tesla is also at least half Chinese

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[beijingwalker]

BYD is CRUSHING Tesla in China