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NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. authorities gathered information about Huawei Technologies Co Ltd through secret surveillance that they plan to use in a case accusing the Chinese telecom equipment maker of sanctions-busting and bank fraud, prosecutors said on Thursday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Alex Solomon said at a hearing in federal court in Brooklyn that the evidence, obtained under the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), would require classified handling.

The government notified Huawei in a court filing on Thursday of its intent to use the information, saying it was "obtained or derived from electronic surveillance and physical search," but gave no details.

The United States has been pressuring other countries to drop Huawei from their cellular networks, worried its equipment could be used by Beijing for spying. The company says the concerns are unfounded.

Brian Frey, a former federal prosecutor who is not involved in the Huawei case, said FISA surveillance, which requires a warrant from a special court, is generally sought in connection with suspected espionage.

"The reason they typically would have gotten the surveillance through a FISA court is where we suspect someone may be spying on behalf of a foreign power," Frey said.

The U.S. government has been concerned about espionage by Huawei for years, he added.

In the Brooklyn case, Huawei and its chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, are accused of conspiring to defraud HSBC Holdings Plc and other banks by misrepresenting Huawei's relationship with Skycom Tech Co Ltd, a suspected front company that operated in Iran.

Meng was arrested in Canada in December at the request of the United States to face the charges of bank and wire fraud laid out in the indictment, which was not unsealed until January. She has said she is innocent and is fighting extradition.

Huawei last month pleaded not guilty to the 13-count indictment. Chasen Skinner, a spokesman for the company, declined to comment on Thursday on the secret U.S. surveillance, saying the company does not comment on pending litigation.

Huawei has said Skycom was a local business partner, but prosecutors said in their indictment against Huawei and Meng that it was an unofficial subsidiary used to conceal Huawei's Iran business.

U.S. authorities claim Huawei used Skycom to obtain embargoed U.S. goods, technology and services in Iran, and to move money via the international banking system. The charges against the company include violating U.S. sanctions on Iran.

Last month, Reuters detailed how U.S. authorities secretly tracked Huawei's activities by collecting information copied from electronic devices carried by Chinese telecom executives traveling through airports.

Reuters also broke news of the bank fraud charges in December and exclusively reported in February how an internal HSBC probe helped lead to the charges against Huawei and Meng.

The U.S. sanctions investigation was spurred by Reuters reports over six years ago that Skycom offered to sell embargoed Hewlett-Packard computer equipment to Iran's largest mobile-phone operator and detailed the close ties between Huawei and Skycom.

Trump told Reuters in December that he would intervene in the case if it helped secure a trade deal with China. Meng's lawyers have expressed concerns that she is a pawn.

The next court date in the Brooklyn case is set for June 19.

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Lol

This is an openly evidence and statement that USA government spying on Chinese companies, while hugely protest over China doing the same with USA companies.
 
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Lol

This is an openly evidence and statement that USA government spying on Chinese companies, while hugely protest over China doing the same with USA companies.

The difference is that we don’t steal other companies IP.
 
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When you can't fight your compititor in business:lol:

You drag them into court.Huawei is not only threatening US companies in cellular networks
It's also threatening Apple through it's own Smart phones.Huawei is acting as double edge sword.
 
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The difference is that we don’t steal other companies IP.

If they steal, you can sue it.

Beside, every product you sell, the buyer can disassemble it and know all the secrets.

I think the statement of stealing is in correct, but learning, get inspired and make a better product out of it, it's a normal practice around the world.

Does Nike steal Japanese shoe design?


I think the meaning of USA claim of stealing, is China learn many things from USA, up it became a threat to the USA survival of superpower status and technological prowess.

It's actually a very normal practice by countries around the world. But in case of China, it's the size of it, that indirectly a threat to the USA status.
 
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Nowhere in this idiot's article does it claim Huawei is stealing IP. He is confused and illiterate even with English being most familiar language. So they make more things up against Chinese. Good work. People with brains can see through this bullshit because they can read. The real problem these guys have is Huawei doing business with Iran through another organization they control. That's their claim and for them to prove this they claim they have got evidence but have yet to show evidence in court and prosecute Huawei properly. Even then they only dare do this is American courts.

So basically this has nothing to do with Huawei stealing technology. There is nothing to steal. Huawei is much better and more advanced a year ago. Now leagues ahead. They only unhappy Huawei does business with Iran by selling Iran American equipment that Huawei's alleged controlled company purchased. Huawei and China don't give a shit about American sanctions on Iran. They think if they purchased the equipment it becomes their property to sell to whoever they like. American law say differently so there's the one and only issue. Nothing to do with IP and nothing to do with stealing. Dumbshit teenagers.

The real debate is USA is right about this issue of Huawei ignoring the USA law and sanctions on Iran. But on the other side of the debate, China is not legally required to observe USA law and Huawei is a Chinese based company. So this is new legal level and no precedence has been set yet so this whole drama is still being worked out properly and civilly by both sides. USA has a good point here but Huawei may have a good enough reason for not following through if they can prove other companies do the same. It has been shown that Samsung and other nationals sell to Iran and do not observe sanctions in the past but USA allows to slide. This shows they have another standard when dealing with China. You can make up good or bad reasons for this. To me it's only because USA doesn't care about South Korea or Sweden because they can't touch USA but China is whole different monster and China doesn't operate like usual capitalist democracy and not controlled by Western elites.
 
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Show us the proof or evidences please!!!
We beg you,

oh must be somthings related to such as selling products to Iran, No?

In Huawei incident, the US government's reputation is negative.
The suppression of Huawei's technological progress and of China's high-tech industry is the real reason why the United States frequently violates international law and exercises it arbitrarily.

The difference is that we don’t steal other companies IP.
Show us the proofs that Huawei steals?

Where is the paper used in your home book? China invented paper 2,200 years ago!
Where did the first steam engine of the United States come from? The United States has stolen the intellectual property rights of steam engines from the United Kingdom.
1) Americans themselves are criminals who steal intellectual property rights from Britain and Germany from 1776 to 1960s.
2) There is no evidence that Huawei steals intellectual property rights. Huawei invests US$12 billion annually in research and development. There is no need for Huawei to steal any company's intellectual property rights, especially the intellectual property rights of backward US companies.
 
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In a normal country operating under the rule of law, illegally obtained evidence is not admissible in a court. Coming right after Meng Wanzhou's abduction, it really does appear that US has become some kind of banana republic.
 
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The difference is that we don’t steal other companies IP.
The difference between China communist vs USA democracy is China don't make up lies like low life loser slandering others.

Remember the biggest fraud of WMD of Saddam Hussein? Only despicable USA is capable of such thing :enjoy:
 
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I know for a fact that the US has been caught stealing information, technical or political, from even her own allies, from Germany to Canada to Britain and elsewhere. After this, where is the moral ground for the thief to be pointing fingers at others?
 
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