By End 2016, Over 43% of World's Skyscrapers Are In China

[Echo_419]

As per CTBUH, latest ranking of countries by skyscrapers (200m+ completed buildings) is as below. Over 43% of all are in China, followed by US, UAE, South Korea, Japan, Australia, Indonesia and Singapore.

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http://skyscrapercenter.com/countries?list=buildings-200​

This is just depressing

 

[Get Ya Wig Split]

I'm just gonna leave this here

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This is a big difference but China is still developing but US is developed, hence less to build.
This could be a reason while the other reason is money, or lack of it.

It's because when incomes rose in the US people moved out of tiny 100sq meter apartments in crowded cities and into bigger living spaces in the suburbs...and industry moved there too. The median new home is now 230sq meters and the average is 250sq meters. Most people don't actually work in cities. There was a little rise in city living early in this decade due to high gasoline prices...but we all know the direction the future is going when it comes to gasoline.

 

[shadows888]

It's because when incomes rose in the US people moved out of tiny 100sq meter apartments in crowded cities and into bigger living spaces in the suburbs...and industry moved there too. The median new home is now 230sq meters and the average is 250sq meters. Most people don't actually work in cities. There was a little rise in city living early in this decade due to high gasoline prices...but we all know the direction the future is going when it comes to gasoline.

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You can't be more wrong. People in the US move out of the city because housing and living cost in the city are out of control. So unless you're making Wall Street money, you can't afford Manhattan. Outside of major cities, the suburbs are more reasonable pricing with better air quality too. Industry don't just "move" into the suburbs, all the high paying jobs are in the cities. People commute into the cities to work then commute home to a bigger house with lower cost. All data is pointing to people becoming more urban not less, nothing to do with gasoline prices. Sorry but your house in the woods are a dead end, there're no jobs, and there's nothing to do.

 

[Shotgunner51]

This is just depressing

No worry, there are already three 200m+ skyscrapers in India, same as France, more than Brazil. All three in Mumbai:

http://skyscrapercenter.com/building/the-imperial-i/889
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building/the-imperial-ii/890
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building/ahuja-towers/9553​

Mumbai leads the whole of India and is fast developing, planning & construction is going on, see the pipeline:

http://skyscrapercenter.com/country/india​

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

you can't be more wrong. people in the US move out of the city because housing and living cost in the city are out of control. so unless your making wall street money, you can't afford Manhattan. Outside of major cities, the suburbs are more reasonable pricing with better air quality too. Industry don't just "move" into the suburbs, all the high paying jobs are in the cities. people commute into the cities to work then commute home to a bigger house with lower cost. all data is pointing to people becoming more urban not less, nothing to do with gasoline prices. sorry but your house in the woods are a dead end, there's no jobs, and there's nothing to do.

As someone who moved out of a city I think I can speak from first-hand experience. Of all the neighborhood kids I grew up with the one's with blue-collar jobs are still living there. They never made enough money to leave. They are either living in the same home they grew up in (which their parents purchased) or are renting. Some of these people purchased nearby property by leveraging the money they saved by living at home and became landlords (renters pay much of the property costs). However those who got successful white collar jobs fled the city. They purchased a home in the more well-to-do suburbs where the median income is higher than the typical city dweller. They have larger acreage and can put in a pool, park a boat, have a large private playground (with slides, swing sets, inflatable bouncers, etc) for their kids (instead of them running off to a park), grow fruit trees, large vegetable and flower gardens, greenhouses, etc. They are also surrounded by higher income people so their neighborhoods are generally nicer looking and clean. When their parents die and their old city home becomes available they never move back to city life. They either sell it (usually to a landlord) or become landlords themselves. None of my siblings wants to live in our parents' home even though it is over 6,000 sq feet (557sq m), worth well over $1M, and has main bus lines stopping within 250m of the door.

Many white collar companies also moved closer to the suburbs (for instance many high tech companies are in the 'burbs). So people now have the choice of working in suburban locations or commuting into the city (or even remote desktop). I happen to work for a large financial company with offices in both areas. I worked in both. I'm currently in one of their main downtown offices. There's well over 1000 people across multiple offices (some overseas) and pretty much everybody makes 6+ figure salaries. I do not know of any co-worker who has their primary residence in the city (they may have a secondary or a third). It certainly isn't because they can't afford it.

Costs in the suburbs are not necessarily cheaper than the city. Many people in a nice suburb pay over $10,000 just in local property taxes a year. That's a showstopper right there for many people who want to leave the city and are used to paying maybe $2K. Only a crappy town in the middle of nowhere would be that low. So if people don't make good money they are stuck in the city or forced to rent in a suburb (if it has apartments) or buy a place in the middle of nowhere.

That isn't to say there are no well-off people living in the city...of course there are.

 

[AndrewJin]

You can't be more wrong. People in the US move out of the city because housing and living cost in the city are out of control. So unless you're making Wall Street money, you can't afford Manhattan. Outside of major cities, the suburbs are more reasonable pricing with better air quality too. Industry don't just "move" into the suburbs, all the high paying jobs are in the cities. People commute into the cities to work then commute home to a bigger house with lower cost. All data is pointing to people becoming more urban not less, nothing to do with gasoline prices. Sorry but your house in the woods are a dead end, there're no jobs, and there's nothing to do.

Housing in the outer suburb in China is damn cheap. Good thing is, it is safe everywhere, in city downtown, in inner suburb or outer suburb. But in the West, lmao.....God bless them, collapsing infra plus dangerous city downtown and many dangerous suburbs.

 

[Mista]

Some of Singapore's green buildings.

Now red, this building will turn green in a few years time.

 

[Echo_419]

No worry, there are already three 200m+ skyscrapers in India, same as France, more than Brazil. All three in Mumbai:

http://skyscrapercenter.com/building/the-imperial-i/889
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building/the-imperial-ii/890
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building/ahuja-towers/9553​

Mumbai leads the whole of India and is fast developing, planning & construction is going on, see the pipeline:

http://skyscrapercenter.com/country/india​

When I used the word "depressing" I was referring to the general bad situation of city/town planning in India

Thankfully I will be joining the civil service next year & fix the situation myself

 

[AndrewJin]

Some of Singapore's green buildings.

Now red, this building will turn green in a few years time.

Looks cool

 

[AndrewJin]

When I used the word "depressing" I was referring to the general bad situation of city/town planning in India

Thankfully I will be joining the civil service next year & fix the situation myself

My city also has very old and crappy districts. You just need more money for reurbanisation. Building new districts is easier, but tackling issues in the downtown is also important. What you see in the West is the situation in the downtown is too bad that there will be zero solutions. They find it easier burning cash in missiles to kill villains. Their debacles at home should be avoided in our own country.

 

[TaiShang]

My city also has very old and crappy districts. You just need more money for reurbanisation. Building new districts is easier, but tackling issues in the downtown is also important. What you see in the West is the situation in the downtown is too bad that there will be zero solutions. They find it easier burning cash in missiles to kill villains. Their debacles at home should be avoided in our own country.

This explains China's persistent moderate rise in defense spending.

A country's defense is only as strong as the home economy and infrastructure.

 

[shadows888]

As someone who moved out of a city I think I can speak from first-hand experience. Of all the neighborhood kids I grew up with the one's with blue-collar jobs are still living there. They never made enough money to leave. They are either living in the same home they grew up in (which their parents purchased) or are renting. Some of these people purchased nearby property by leveraging the money they saved by living at home and became landlords (renters pay much of the property costs). However those who got successful white collar jobs fled the city. They purchased a home in the more well-to-do suburbs where the median income is higher than the typical city dweller. They have larger acreage and can put in a pool, park a boat, have a large private playground (with slides, swing sets, inflatable bouncers, etc) for their kids (instead of them running off to a park), grow fruit trees, large vegetable and flower gardens, greenhouses, etc. They are also surrounded by higher income people so their neighborhoods are generally nicer looking and clean. When their parents die and their old city home becomes available they never move back to city life. They either sell it (usually to a landlord) or become landlords themselves. None of my siblings wants to live in our parents' home even though it is over 6,000 sq feet (557sq m), worth well over $1M, and has main bus lines stopping within 250m of the door.

Many white collar companies also moved closer to the suburbs (for instance many high tech companies are in the 'burbs). So people now have the choice of working in suburban locations or commuting into the city (or even remote desktop). I happen to work for a large financial company with offices in both areas. I worked in both. I'm currently in one of their main downtown offices. There's well over 1000 people across multiple offices (some overseas) and pretty much everybody makes 6+ figure salaries. I do not know of any co-worker who has their primary residence in the city (they may have a secondary or a third). It certainly isn't because they can't afford it.

Costs in the suburbs are not necessarily cheaper than the city. Many people in a nice suburb pay over $10,000 just in local property taxes a year. That's a showstopper right there for many people who want to leave the city and are used to paying maybe $2K. Only a crappy town in the middle of nowhere would be that low. So if people don't make good money they are stuck in the city or forced to rent in a suburb (if it has apartments) or buy a place in the middle of nowhere.

That isn't to say there are no well-off people living in the city...of course there are.

The wealthiest are always in the city and more urban. a few examples of suburban companies don't compare to the size and density of the ones in the city, or do you think Manhattan gdp data is all fake? think about how many people in your block vs how many in 1 apartment tower. Density is needed to create economic activity and scale. 10k property taxes is typical for a house, don't make it sound like it's a lot of money. and i know where you got your 2k figure from, to you, urban = black, it's obvious to everyone else in the world. My brother in law makes 450k a year in Boston, finance, sorry but you can't find that kind of salary in the suburbs.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

My brother in law makes 450k a year in Boston, finance, sorry but you can't find that kind of salary in the suburbs.

The question is does he LIVE in Boston. I already said I live outside Boston but work in Boston. So does probably all my coworkers. I also work with several people who make well over $1M a year in finance and they don't live in Boston. Many live in Weston and Wellesley. They'd laugh if people asked them to have their primary residence in a building with 100 other people in the city. They have gargantuan homes in the suburbs not some high-rise condo. They aren't worried about the days of "living in the woods" being numbered. Some of these guys have horse stables.

So the answer is since people prefer to live in the suburbs vs the city (even those who work in Finance and make big money) many companies simply build suburban office parks with tons of free parking to accommodate them not tall buildings in cities where their employees probably won't live. Even the Financial company I work for has offices in the suburbs with half their employees. Some of us are required to be downtown to deal with billion dollar clients and of course handle trading.

 

[Mista]

Looks cool

This is my favourite photo of the building. Look towards the left and I feel 'serene' because of the greenery. Can you spot the lady immersing in it? But look towards the right and I feel 'stressed' because of the busy road. It just shows how important nature is to one's well being in a city.

https://qz.com/804022/health-benefits-japanese-forest-bathing/

I hope there will be skyscrapers in the future that also integrates urban farming into it. We are currently trying it out in our public housing's rooftop park/gardens.