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Businessmen call for expanding trade with India

Smuggling of Indian goods hurting exchequer, traders and consumers

Saturday, February 13, 2010
By Samia Saleem

KARACHI: As customers flock at the shop of Amjad Mansoor asking for the latest Indian goods ranging from fairness creams to confectioneries and even razor blades and locks, he feels that the prices would be fair for customers and profit margins much higher for traders if these items were coming via legal trade.

Mansoor, who claims to be in retail and wholesale business in consumer goods for his entire life, says that Indian goods are in high demand in the entire country but these are smuggled illegally.

It is no secret that our import list with India declares hardly 30-40 items, but the local markets are awash with goods coming form the neighbouring country.

The popularity of these goods is so much so that even if local Pakistani companies start manufacturing the same, people would still ask for the original Indian product, Mansoor told The News.
“Although the Bio Amla Hair Oil, which is the same as the Dabur Amla Hair Oil of Indian origin, and made with the same formula as of Dabur’s, people still decline the local oil in favour of the Indian one,” he said. Similarly, even if Fair & Lovely introduced the same formula of Ayurvedic cream followed in India, customers would still prefer the Indian product.

“This demand comes in the market as soon as a commercial is shown on Indian television channels, and we get demand requests within an hour,” Amjad Mansoor said. However, any new Indian product in demand over here takes about a month to reach the Pakistani markets, said he. “Since these products are not registered in the import lists, it is obvious they reach through illegal means.”

Speaking about the immensity of the Indian products in Pakistani markets, he said that only cosmetic products imported from the neighbour make a list of a minimum 225 items, including shampoos, deodorants, sprays, masks, creams, oils, gels and products by other famous brands as Himalayas, etc. Besides these, there are health drinks like Bournvita, Complan, toiletries by Paras, medicines and pain relievers, eg, by Himani, and many other products. Quite a few of these items have little or no production in Pakistan.

Amjad Mansoor claimed that the razor blades used by almost 80 per cent barbers in Pakistan come from India. “About 80 per cent of the barbers in Pakistan use Indian blades, of brands like Ashok, Tentwin, Panama, Topaz, etc, all of which are smuggled into Pakistan regularly and we have no local companies producing them in abundance,” said another dealer. He did not mention the leading local manufacturer of shaving products Treet and global leader Gillet that have market presence in every nook and corner of the country. “Pakistanis trust in Indian products can be gauged from the fact that people have now started asking for Godrej locks too instead of the Chinese ones as they say they are more reliable,” he added.

Talking about how these items reach shopping hubs, Mansoor said there are three methods of illegal trade in Indian goods, personal baggage of passengers coming from India, Afghan Transit Trade shipments getting back into Pakistan, and through diplomatic containers.

He disclosed that some traders have contacts with senior officials of the Indian embassy and in the customs department and small traders can get almost any Indian item from them.

Speaking about the loss caused to the exchequer and consumers by the illegal trade, he said that it is immense. “In illegal trade these goods pass through multiple hands, from Dubai to ATT to Peshawar and then finally to the major cities. Each dealer keeps a profit of at least 10 per cent which is all passed on to the customers,” he said. “I sell a Bournvita bottle for Rs155 in wholesale. I would sell it for Rs80, the same price as in Dubai, if the trade was legal,” he explained.

Besides, he said that it is an even bigger loss to the Government of Pakistan, which is deprived of the legal revenue.

“At customs illegal traders tell the worth of a $0.15 million container to be only $10,000, from which the tax loss to the government can easily be gauged,” he said.

Siraj Qasim Teli, a senior businessman, who has advocated trade with India, said that unlike common perception, it is in our favour if we conduct open trade with India. He said that given the right business agreement in which mutual interest is kept in mind, Pakistan could benefit from the growing Indian economy.

Since the Government of Pakistan is aware that trade is taking place through illegal means, and people and businessmen want trade with India expanded, the two governments should think why there should not be open and expanded trade relations between Pakistan and India as it would benefit them both.

Businessmen call for expanding trade with India
 
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There is no denying, India and Pakistan needs to co-operate in trade. Chinese goods may be cheap and affordable but definitely not high on quality. Indian goods may not be that cheap but are good in quality. Same for Pakistani goods which are good quality goods but expensive.

If India and Pakistan co-operate, we would be able to meet domestic demands and also export vital goods to neighbouring countries.
We need each other.
 
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I agree ...

Cricket, Bollywood, trade and TV not necessarily in the same order will bring people closer. Pakistan and India can be a powerhouse if they can work together. It is highly unlikely as politicians and media houses exploit the animosity implanted through the ages for meeting their selfish ends. The text books and education system in both the countries is anti-other and the generations to come will be in no better position to resolve differences.
 
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It is so stupid to have trade and sport barrier restrictions between bordering countries. If trade and sport and other commercial ventures are opened up with minimal restrictions , then the political demographics and attitudes will automatically change for the better
 
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interesting. >>razor blades used by almost 80 per cent barbers in Pakistan come from India.

You mean Topaz or Gillete (which are American brands)
 
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This illegal trade should be stopped does not help in revenue to government and raise black money.
 
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interesting. >>razor blades used by almost 80 per cent barbers in Pakistan come from India.

You mean Topaz or Gillete (which are American brands)

Gillete brand is expensive and barbers dont go for that :)
 
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That chinese lock vs indian lock fact was interesting.
Infact chinese goods are flooding indian markets and their popularity is immense especially in case of mobiles, cfls, toys and electronics.
 
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That chinese lock vs indian lock fact was interesting.
Infact chinese goods are flooding indian markets and their popularity is immense especially in case of mobiles, cfls, toys and electronics.

China has inavded almost the entire region in terms of trade goods
 
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interesting. >>razor blades used by almost 80 per cent barbers in Pakistan come from India.

You mean Topaz or Gillete (which are American brands)

Topaz is an Indian brand
 
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I guess it's the access to indian advertisements that is doing the trick. Ban indian tv ads, and the demand will vanish.
 
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I guess it's the access to indian advertisements that is doing the trick. Ban indian tv ads, and the demand will vanish.

Well yes that is also an element specialy viz a viz Cosmetics tricking the same amount of Pakistani women as these adds do in India :) for fairness and other such rubish claims.

Some other products are liked for some true reasons like Indian Jewlery is very famous here for its designs specialy the imitated one.

Smuggled Indian medicines are sold also due to cheap prices these find more buyers.
 
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Trade may also be one of the best ways to reduce hostility. take USA and China for example. They are not friends, but they have so much mutual interest in each other due to trade, that they can't afford to go to a war with each other!

Also trade between India and China is growing rapidly, and both nations will benefit from it. Soon it will be to such a level that neither country would want to war with each other, not because of Mutually Assured Destruction like in the Cold War, but due to serious economic interest in each other.

I think increased trade is one way to lock countries from going to war.
 
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Trade may also be one of the best ways to reduce hostility. take USA and China for example. They are not friends, but they have so much mutual interest in each other due to trade, that they can't afford to go to a war with each other!

Also trade between India and China is growing rapidly, and both nations will benefit from it. Soon it will be to such a level that neither country would want to war with each other, not because of Mutually Assured Destruction like in the Cold War, but due to serious economic interest in each other.

I think increased trade is one way to lock countries from going to war.
 
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I always wondered how Indian DTH sets reaches Pakistan.. :o

so ,almost all Indian cosmetic products are available in Pakistn?Ban Indian Channels First and the demand for these products will naturally go down.same with Hindi Cinema(Bollywood).
PS:We call "Fair&lovely" as "Fair & Ugly" LOL! :D
 
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