Burma is for Buddhists

[extra terrestrial]

So back to the race argument. Where you have already conceded they are the same 'race' as you. So you've defeated your own argument.

If you have nothing to argue it's better to back off rather than making a fool out of yourself!

 

[alaungphaya]

If you have nothing to argue it's better to back off rather than making a fool out of yourself!

Are you stupid? You have just defeated your own point. You claim they are a difference race from you. I show you pictures and you concede they are they same 'race' as you but claim they are a different ethinicity. I respond that they are not as they share the same language and culture as you and you come back again with that they are a different race. You have lost the argument, fella.

 

[zip]

You expected anything else from the cradle of Islam and a country where the native citizens are 99,9% Muslim? Before Islam KSA had Christians, Jews (fellow Abrahamic/Semitic religions), Hanifs and people who believed in ancient Semitic Gods but that's obviously not the case anymore. Just like the various ethnic groups of India are not following religions that their forefathers followed 6000 years ago as nobody even knows what people back then believed in.

I was referring to the supposed massacre of Muslims in Burma. I am not very knowledgeable about the conflict there.

Also I believe that Burma is a secular country and thus such laws have no place. KSA nor Brunei are secular countries and do not hide this.

Yet you differentiate that tiny minority of 0.1% with your laws ...

 

[bongbang]

No dear its not about quantity. But just so that people have a way to settle some where at least. Just as a humanitarian thing I mean. Its better to convert those who are NON VIOLENT and DECENT to Burmese culture, if they are willing to change. It would avoid unnecessary violence.

The rest can be asked to move. Just my opinion but upto Myanmar govt. though. Its their internal matter.



I already said, they are Germans. Why r u telling me they are Indians? lol

PDF isnt gonna teach you everything. I have no reason to prove here before bunch of people whom are these Rohingyas.
Search for yourself. This forum itself is anti BD forum. My concern is for BD only.

Go to this link "stateless com/rohingya"

 

[extra terrestrial]

Are you stupid? You have just defeated your own point. You claim they are a difference race from you. I show you pictures and you concede they are they same 'race' as you but claim they are a different ethinicity. I respond that they are not as they share the same language and culture as you and you come back again with that they are a different race. You have lost the argument, fella.

Okay let's review, here is what said,

Of course they are hi-breed, call it race or ethnicity or whatever you want.

There are historical proves about Muslim settlements in the Arakans dating back to 10th century, now is there any other Muslims in the Rakhine State other than the Rohingyas?

There are indeed many Burmese converts among the Rohingyas. I have seen many Rohungyas having traditional Burmese surnames like Maung.

Source: Burma is for Buddhists | Page 10

The argument is not about whether they are racially different or ethnically different, but just on whether they are different or not and I have already raised my points.

You have proved they share the same language and culture, where? They indeed have Bengali cultural influence that doesn't make them Bengalis. Now I have also said that Chittagongian dialect has large Burmese influence, does it make the Chittagongians as Burmese? Kachins have big similarities with the Hans of Yunnan, will it imply that Kachins are actually Hans?

As I said, if you don't have anything to argue just back off rather than making a fool out of yourself. I'm sure there are many sensible Burmese forumers here who could discuss it better for your country.

 

[alaungphaya]

Okay let's review, here is what said,

Of course they are hi-breed, call it race or ethnicity or whatever you want.

There are historical proves about Muslim settlements in the Arakans dating back to 10th century, now is there any other Muslims in the Rakhine State other than the Rohingyas?

There are indeed many Burmese converts among the Rohingyas. I have seen many Rohungyas having traditional Burmese surnames like Maung.

Source: Burma is for Buddhists | Page 10

The argument is not about whether they are racially different or ethnically different, but just on whether they are different or not and I have already raised my points.

You have proved they share the same language and culture, where? They indeed have Bengali cultural influence that doesn't make them Bengalis. Now I have also said that Chittagongian dialect has large Burmese influence, does it make the Chittagongians as Burmese? Kachins have big similarities with the Hans of Yunnan, will it imply that Kachins are actually Hans?

As I said, if you don't have anything to argue just back off rather than making a fool out of yourself. I'm sure there are many sensible Burmese forumers here who could discuss it better for your country.

I fully see the Chittagonians as Burmese who were the unfortunate victims of arbitrary border demarcatioms. I don't dismiss them as 'others'. We allow the ones who are persecuted to move back if they wish. Do you see the difference? We don't let them twist in the wind.

You can discuss with any Burmese you like. It won't stop you defeating your own point. You were the one who started with race and then went to ethnicity and now you say it's irrelevant. Do you see why you are ridiculous?

 

[Dem!god]

yes very true burma is for buddhist... why should it tolerate other religion.. if bangladeshi are feeling so much pain why dont they just accept these refugees and solve the crisis...

 

[bongbang]

Are you stupid? You have just defeated your own point. You claim they are a difference race from you. I show you pictures and you concede they are they same 'race' as you but claim they are a different ethinicity. I respond that they are not as they share the same language and culture as you and you come back again with that they are a different race. You have lost the argument, fella.

If British drawn the line wisely. Now we could say Rohingyas are Bangladeshi. There was never any Bangladesh. Only Bengal. Where today's Sylhet which was part of Assam. Chittagong which was part of Arakan for many centuries. And Muslims ruled Arakan.

 

[alaungphaya]

yes very true burma is for buddhist... why should it tolerate other religion.. if bangladeshi are feeling so much pain why dont they just accept these refugees and solve the crisis...

I don't think it is. Myanmar should be secular but not at detriment of our own culture.

And Muslims ruled Arakan.

Well, that's another outright lie. Arakan was always Arakan and used to contain Chittagong within its borders. It was always a Buddhist ruled kingdom.

BTW it's very telling that you would be happy to accept them if they had land. Typical Bangladeshi attitude. Disgusting how you look down on your own.

 

[extra terrestrial]

I fully see the Chittagonians as Burmese who were the unfortunate victims of arbitrary border demarcatioms. I don't dismiss them as 'others'. We allow the ones who are persecuted to move back if they wish. Do you see the difference? We don't let them twist in the wind.

So you want more Muslims in your country? LOL Also Chittagongians are not mongoloids, the people you are fond with LOL Besides, that also means you consider the Kachins as Hans, that makes China's claim over the area legit

You can discuss with any Burmese you like. It won't stop you defeating your own point. You were the one who started with race and then went to ethnicity and now you say it's irrelevant. Do you see why you are ridiculous?

LOL I was talking about the origins of the Rohingyas and you tried to confuse between race and ethnicity after running out of argument.

 

[timetravel]

I don't think it is. Myanmar should be secular but not at detriment of our own culture.

I like the Chinese way of dealing with TROUBLESOME minorities. Those who integrate with the local culture are fine. But for troublemakers everyone should take lessons from China.

 

[alaungphaya]

So you want more Muslims in your country? LOL Also Chittagongians are not mongoloids, the people you are fond with LOL Besides, that also means you consider the Kachins as Hans, that makes China's claim over the area legit



LOL I was talking about the origins of the Rohingyas and you tried to confuse between race and ethnicity after running out of argument.

Marma is just another name for Myanmar. They are more than welcome in either Arakan or Chin. And if they are Burmese, I would have them back whatever their religion.

And no, you defeated your argument. You have come clean that you guys are the same whether race or ethnicity.

 

[extra terrestrial]

Marma is just another name for Myanmar. They are more than welcome in either Arakan or Chin. And if they are Burmese, I would have them back whatever their religion.

I was not talking about Marmas, they are migrant tribes and they speak Marma language not Chittagongian, I was talking about Chittagongians, the Bengalis in the Chittagong coastal area who speak the Chittagongian language.

And no, you defeated your argument. You have come clean that you guys are the same whether race or ethnicity.

LOL and when did I say that? You do know the meaning of the terms "race" and "ethnicity"? People from Europe to South Asia are part of the same race "Caucasian", but there are different ethnicities among them. Rohingyas could be same race as us but they are surely not the same ethnicity.

Now quote me only when you have anything reasonable to discuss, don't waste my time!

 

[alaungphaya]

I like the Chinese way of dealing with TROUBLESOME minorities. Those who integrate with the local culture are fine. But for troublemakers everyone should take lessons from China.

The British take a lot of the blame. They intentionally created discord within our empire during colonial rule as a way to divide and rule. They set everyone off against everyone else and brought in loyal Indians and Chinese who helped keep the order. Modern Myanmar is paying the price.

 

[bongbang]

I don't think it is. Myanmar should be secular but not at detriment of our own culture.



Well, that's another outright lie. Arakan was always Arakan and used to contain Chittagong within its borders. It was always a Buddhist ruled kingdom.

BTW it's very telling that you would be happy to accept them if they had land. Typical Bangladeshi attitude. Disgusting how you look down on your own.

If Muslims are so large in number in Chittagong why cant they be in rest of Arakan. As Chittagong and Arakan was same.
Maruk u dynasty of Arakan was influenced by Muslims and Illias shahi dynasty of Bengal ran vessal state Arakan. Many Hindus and Buddhists also converted to Islam.
There is a good article on this in rohingya org if you search by muslim rulers of Arakan.

rohingya org/portal/index.php/scholars/65-nurul-islam-uk/293-muslim-influence-in-the-kingdom-of-arakan.html