Bulgaria:anti-migrant vigilante group TIES UP Afghans - and earns PRAISE from the PM

[Jungibaaz]

Bulgarians are not there jumping fences illegally.I'm amazed that so many people on this forum fail to grasp simple things such as these.

I've met personally people who were here illegally from Bulgaria, this was before the financial crisis, sometime before Bulgaria joined the EU, same goes for Romania. Just because they didn't hop some fence, doesn't mean they were any more legal, I didn't jump them and floor them, nor would I want any other person in a CIVILISED country like Britain to do the same.

Just because you were fortunate enough to start being able to look down on others, doesn't mean you should.

That's an ironic double standard.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Bro the property in warsaw is very expensive, a cousin of mine invested their and lives their with his model like Polish wife, the guy made millions

I have been to Poland not once but 4th times ..Every eastern European who visit Pakistan will surely surprise after looking at living standard of people and about how they spend money on food, shopping, festival, wedding etc and what personal savings they have got ..our accommodation is better big houses with plenty of space..our food is great. I dont go for statistics but what i see in real life with my own eyes..every guy is welcome to see the living standard of eastern European and Pakistani in west if you bother to visit their houses..Pakistani own houses while eastern European living on rent in overcrowded paces and that is when wives of most Pakistani stay at home and dont even work

 

[flamer84]

I've met personally people who were here illegally from Bulgaria, this was before the financial crisis, sometime before Bulgaria joined the EU, same goes for Romania. Just because they didn't hop some fence, doesn't mean they were any more legal, I didn't jump them and floor them, nor would I want any other person in a CIVILISED country like Britain to do the same.

Just because you were fortunate enough to start being able to look down on others, doesn't mean you should.

That's an ironic double standard.

It's not about looking down but protecting their country's borders.We just can't act like there are no borders and everybody can waltz in.I'm not going to buy a house in London if i'd work here for 1 year,maybe 2.

I have been to Poland not once but 4th times ..Every eastern European who visit Pakistan will surely surprise after looking at living standard of people and about how they spend money on food, shopping, festival, wedding etc and what personal savings they have got ..our accommodation is better big houses with plenty of space..our food is great. I dont go for statistics but what i see in real life with my own eyes..every guy is welcome to see the living standard of eastern European and Pakistani in west if you bother to visit their houses..Pakistani own houses while eastern European living on rent in overcrowded paces and that is when wives of most Pakistani stay at home and dont even work

Most East Europeans are temporary workers,they don't buy houses for that as they're not 2nd,3rd generation migrants.As for the rest ,they're just stories,i've made my case clear with stats.

 

[Jungibaaz]

It's not about looking down but protecting their country's borders.We just can't act like there are no borders and everybody can waltz in.

Sure, they ought to be able to control that aspect of their countries. Still, I would not suffer the UK doing these sort of things to migrants or refugees, certainly not by vigilante groups. I'm not here to criticise what a democratic nation decides is the best course of action for their own country.

 

[flamer84]

Sure, they ought to be able to control that aspect of their countries. Still, I would not suffer the UK doing these sort of things to migrants or refugees, certainly not by vigilante groups. I'm not here to criticise what a democratic nation decides is the best course of action for their own country.

This is not mob justice as no agression was commited against them.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

It's not about looking down but protecting their country's borders.We just can't act like there are no borders and everybody can waltz in.

accept this fact that you are anti immigrant bigot when you are also immigrant in uk which is height of hypocrasy.. We are talking about Bulgaria not even romnia but whenever there is talk about muslim immigrant you just jumped in there with your racist intolerant remark..now all we saying is that you have all right to protect your border but there should be a proper procedure to deal with immigrant legal or illegal rather than civilians acting as border force by their own ways

 

[flamer84]

accept this fact that you are anti immigrant bigot when you are also immigrant in uk which is height of hypocrasy.. We are talking about Bulgaria not even romnia but whenever there is talk about muslim immigrant you just jumped in there with your racist intolerant remark..now all we saying is that you have all right to protect your border but there should be a proper procedure to deal with immigrant legal or illegal rather than civilians acting as border force by their own ways

I don't have to accept your facts.There are laws in here and people who blatantly disregard them.For the millionth time allready,there's no comparison between me who had a job interview,signed a contract and came to the UK to work and illegals jumping border fences.

 

[Jungibaaz]

I dont understand why some here believe racism is bad? Its a strong protection meassure to guarantee our nations security. Our party is in Parliament and even rules one region, Liguria. i see my racism as something positive. I never hide it or made it a secret and i think its ok to play with open cards.

I divide people im friend and foe. I dont react friendly towards cultures i see as enemy. And honestly speaking i enjoy to see them suffer. Take idomeni for example. I jave zero sympathy for theose refugees. Not even for their children. Thats how i think and feel.

There really is nothing wrong with racism in the eyes of some unless it is you who is marginalised. Also, tribalism has no role in the new world order, you keep to it at your peril... the Islamic world is learning this fact the hard way, and the European far right is unlearning it the very easy way.

These sound like the words of either of someone who believes in sociopathic models for societal order with total sincerity, or the ramblings of someone sounding edgy for the sake of being edgy.

This is not mob justice as no agression was commited against them.

No place yet has reacted with abhorrent violence to refugees/migrants yet as far as I know. That's a good sign in my opinion, reflective of advanced societies that these people are fleeing to, but the sentiment I see around these days is not encouraging.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

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Most East Europeans are temporary workers,they don't buy houses for that as they're not 2nd,3rd generation migrants.As for the rest ,they're just stories,i've made my case clear with stats.

You statistics dont make any sense.. GDP per capita dont reflect the living standard of population unless there is equal distribution of wealth and resources own by governemnt or richest people of the country..

 

[Jungibaaz]

I don't have to accept your facts.There are laws in here and people who blatantly disregard them.For the millionth time allready,there's no comparison between me who had a job interview,signed a contract and came to the UK to work and illegals jumping border fences.

Ah, so you're also in the UK? How do you feel or perceive the hate for all migrants among some here? Fringe elements who've spoken ill of all migrants, including Romanians such as yourself. To me, I cannot differentiate between the incorrect tribalism against Romanians or Bulgarians here and the same kind seen in Eastern Europe for the migrants there.

And please don't tell me that it's okay when you do it because they're brown and they jumped a fence, whereas you're there legally, plenty from these countries were here illegally before it became legal, and the moral distinction is void especially when the reaction among locals to them is paralleled.

 

[flamer84]

You statistics dont make any sense.. GDP per capita dont reflect the living standard of population unless there is equal distribution of wealth and resources own by governemnt or richest people of the country..

That could be said about Pakistan to.Still,those stats are clear,or we can go by minim wagemmedium wages in both countries but you'll loose that one to.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

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Most East Europeans are temporary workers,they don't buy houses for that as they're not 2nd,3rd generation migrants.As for the rest ,they're just stories,i've made my case clear with stats.

They are not temporary as seen second or third generation of polish and Romanians grow up in here but most of then dont have money to buy houses and they dont have money to attend education at higher level. These are not their priorities...every young eastern European in UK just want to work in factory/warehouse to earn money instead of investing in education or business ..few polish who has money own polish shops though..these are my personal experience

That could be said about Pakistan to.Still,those stats are clear,or we can go by minim wagemmedium wages in both countries but you'll loose that one to.

I already shared the link about percentage of population living below poverty line which is higher in Romania even though Romania is not overpopulated and same is the case with unemployment rate.You will get minimum wage only when you will have work lol and as i said everything is expensive in Romania compare to Pakistan so we could afford better living standard in Pakistan with low wages//..dont tell me that 100 pound has same worth in Romania and Pakistan

 

[flamer84]

They are not temporary as seen second or third generation of polish and Romanians grow up in here but most of then dont have money to buy houses and they dont have money to attend education at higher level. These are not their priories...every young eastern European in UK just want to work in factory/warehouse to earn money instead of investing in education or business ..few polish who has money own polish shops though..these are my personal experience

Which is delluded to say the least.It's hilarious to talk like this about people with a much better education on average than Pakistani's.Sry mate

They are not temporary as seen second or third generation of polish and Romanians grow up in here but most of then dont have money to buy houses and they dont have money to attend education at higher level. These are not their priories...every young eastern European in UK just want to work in factory/warehouse to earn money instead of investing in education or business ..few polish who has money own polish shops though..these are my personal experience


I already shared the link about percentage of population living below poverty line which is higher in Romania even though Romania is not overpopulated and same is the case with unemployment rate.You will get minimum wage only when you will have work lol and as i said everything is expensive in Romania compare to Pakistan so we could afford better living standard in Pakistan with low wages//..dont tell me that 100 pound has same worth in Romania and Pakistan

Yes,but looking at average wages they're 400% times higher in Romania while prices in here are only 30% higher...see the difference now ?

Poverty line in Romania is different that Pakistan,a whole different parameters apply.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@Proudpakistaniguy Many, many, many moons ago when I was wee young lad I went to Birmingham with uncle of mine. He was tough and big. He had habit of not taking any crap from anybody. Driving through we ended in what was a Afro-Caribean neighbourhood. Next we know is this car next to us is honking and the animated driver is swearing. Expecting my uncle to pull up and jump the guy I show my surprise as he does nothing and instead smiles. Then he gives way to this guy. Then my uncle explains to be "son you should pick your fight if you have decent chance of winning. Only dumb ignore this rule" The area was full of Afros and he would had his head kicked so no point in making fool of himself. Point being pick a fight where you stand chance of winning.

I said before Pakistan despite what people say has done well but for gawds sake all your doing is exposing Pakistan by comparing it to Romania. Of course Romania has all the advantages being on the eastern flank of the global economic powerhouses like UK,Germany and France.

Anyway leave all that crap. Romania has nice side to it as well. When Pakistani motorbiker Moin Khan had a accident in Romania during his US - Europe - Pakistan ride he was treated in the most hospitable way by Romanian's even including the police. Here watch and this.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Which is delluded to say the least.It's hilarious to talk like this about people with a much better education on average than Pakistani's.Sry mate
,but looking at average wages they're 400% times higher in Romania while prices in here are only 30% higher...see the difference now ?

We are talking about literacy rate of Pakistani and eastern European immigrant in uk and their preferences or approach toward education/business..this might be interesting for you

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/06/24/british-attitudes-its-pakistani-diaspora/


Looking at the words and phrases below, which ones, if any, do you associate MOST with people from [an African/ an Eastern European/ a Pakistani] background living in Britain today?

we also asked the British public what sort of characteristics they most associate with migrants from Pakistani, African and Eastern European backgrounds. Specifically, we asked a nationally representative sample from our survey panel to select 4 to 5 options from a list of 14 words or phrases.

Again, there’s good news and bad. As Figure 2 shows, compared with people from an African or Eastern European background, Pakistanis are significantly more likely to be seen as keeping to their own by the wider British population.

However, the community is also seen as playing a more positive economic role overall compared with the other groups.

Pakistanis are seen as hard-working as well as more entrepreneurial and less likely to be either leaning on the state or a drain on the economy than the other groups.

Interestingly, they are also seen as less threatening in general and less corrupt than Eastern Europeans.[/I]

@Proudpakistaniguy Many, many, many moons ago when I was wee young lad I went to Birmingham with uncle of mine. He was tough and big. He had habit of not taking any crap from anybody. Driving through we ended in what was a Afro-Caribean neighbourhood. Next we know is this car next to us is honking and the animated driver is swearing. Expecting my uncle to pull up and jump the guy I show my surprise as he does nothing and instead smiles. Then he gives way to this guy. Then my uncle explains to be "son you should pick your fight if you have decent chance of winning. Only dumb ignore this rule" The area was full of Afros and he would had his head kicked so no point in making fool of himself. Point being pick a fight where you stand chance of winning.

I said before Pakistan despite what people say has done well but for gawds sake all your doing is exposing Pakistan by comparing it to Romania. Of course Romania has all the advantages being on the eastern flank of the global economic powerhouses like UK,Germany and France.

Anyway leave all that crap. Romania has nice side to it as well. When Pakistani motorbiker Moin Khan had a accident in Romania during his US - Europe - Pakistan ride he was treated in the most hospitable way by Romanian's even including the police. Here watch and this.

Have you got Romanian or polish GF? You keep defending them even when they are insulting your own kind