BSF women constables awarded for valour

[karan.1970]

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[Armstrong]

That women is truly bad arse and so my respects to you ma'am ! A noob question : Does India employ women in combat arms of the regular army ?

 

[ayesha.a]

He will be hanged in due course, for the dirty indian terrorist he is, May God have mercy on his soul, because he will get none from us. The only thing keeping him alive is Afzal Guru, the GOI have been told in no uncertain terms, that if AG is hanged, SS will follow him within hours.

Yea I knew it. You are so embarassed by the topic of this thread that you want to derail it by completely off topic posts about sarabjit singh and afzal guru.

I would urge others not to fall for that typical bait.

That women is truly bad arse and so my respects to you ma'am ! A noob question : Does India employ women in combat arms of the regular army ?

Nope. Only in support roles, like the Medical corps, Engineers, Signals, Army Service Corps, Ordnance, Education, Intelligence, Legal Branch and EME (Corps of Electrical and Mechanical Engineers). . But some women have risen through the ranks to occupy high offices.

 

[Rafi]

Yea I knew it. You are so embarassed by the topic of this thread that you want to derail it by completely off topic posts about sarabjit singh and afzal guru.

I would urge others not to fall for that typical bait.

No SS was also crossing the border and was found miles from it, he is a convicted terrorist, and has exhausted all of his appeals, AG is the only person keeping him alive.

 

[Armstrong]

Nope. Only in support roles, like the medical corps. But some women have risen through the ranks to occupy high offices.

Oh...alright ! We've had a couple of Major Generals ourselves but they've almost entirely belonged to the Educational, Medical or Administrative wings of the Army ! I wonder why we don't induct women....they've proved their prowess in Israel many times over and I'm not entirely sure that they are physically ill-suited for combat !

 

[ayesha.a]

Oh...alright ! We've had a couple of Major Generals ourselves but they've almost entirely belonged to the Educational, Medical or Administrative wings of the Army ! I wonder why we don't induct women....they've proved their prowess in Israel many times over and I'm not entirely sure that they are physically ill-suited for combat !

There are many reasons cited, one of them being cultural prejudices - many men would be uncomfortable taking orders from a woman. (That is a bogus excuse in my opinion, they should just learn to deal with it.) But there are other factors that cannot be ignored, like how to ensure safety of women from harassment. Again, these things should go eventually and women who are fit enough for combat duties should be allowed to do so in my opinion. But that is not going to happen any time soon in India.

(As you rightly said, female soldiers in the IDF have proven invaluable in defending their country, and have fought valiantly in combat. The subcontinent just happens to be a lot more culturally male dominated than Israel.)

 

[Hindustani]

Salute to the brave men and women that guard India's borders against unfortunate souls.

Bharat Mata Ki Jai!

 

[Armstrong]

There are many reasons cited, one of them being cultural prejudices - many men would be uncomfortable taking orders from a woman. (That is a bogus excuse in my opinion, they should just learn to deal with it.) But there are other factors that cannot be ignored, like how to ensure safety of women from harassment. Again, these things should go eventually and women who are fit enough for combat duties should be allowed to do so in my opinion. But that is not going to happen any time soon.

Yeah but shouldn't the same concerns (albeit a bit tempered down) be raised when it comes to women being in the Paramilitary Forces. If we can make it work for one, I'm sure with the right amount of safeguards (accountability and discipline being the biggest), we should be able to make it work. I mean we've got women, here in Pakistan, engaged in combat roles in everything from Police Units to some of the specialist Anti-Terrorism Units in Punjab; and they'd probably make me squeal like a girl if I (or any other man) ever tried to harass them ! So I don't know if there is much logic behind disallowing women to be active in combat or is it ,instead, truly one of the conundrums of the male chauvinistic society that we find ourselves in ?

 

[ayesha.a]

Yeah but shouldn't the same concerns (albeit a bit tempered down) be raised when it comes to women being in the Paramilitary Forces. If we can make it work for one, I'm sure with the right amount of safeguards (accountability and discipline being the biggest), we should be able to make it work. I mean we've got women, here in Pakistan, engaged in combat roles in everything from Police Units to some of the specialist Anti-Terrorism Units in Punjab; and they'd probably make me squeal like a girl if I (or any other man) ever tried to harass them ! So I don't know if there is much logic behind disallowing women to be active in combat or is it ,instead, truly one of the conundrums of the male chauvinistic society that we find ourselves in ?

Most of the reasons for not allowing women in combat are because of the male chauvinistic culture. Concerns of how to make a large number of men and women share the same living space (housing, toilets etc) in wartime conditions, how to ensure that the women don't suffer harassment from male colleagues etc. (I'm sure even a trained female engineer in the army can make a civilian regret it if he takes liberties with her, but what if its other trained soldiers who harass her?) But the reason most often cited is the fact that a huge percentage of the jawans come from a rural background, and would find it difficult culturally to take orders from a woman officer. For that to change, society has to change.

There is also the inescapable fact that women are physically less fit than men on an average, but as long as no preferential treatment is given in selection or training, and only the women who are fit enough and can keep up with the regimen are allowed to become soldiers, there should be no problem. I guess that would imply that the percentage of women would be a lot smaller than men, because of the average fitness level differences, but that shouldn't be a reason to exclude the women who actually are fit enough.

I guess it's different in the paramilitaries, because (at least in India) they only do policing duties (with some exceptions). Also, it is easy to have an all woman unit in the BSF, but you can't expect that in the army - if you are asked to reinforce another unit during war, you can't say no because that unit is comprised of a different gender.

 

[Armstrong]

Most of the reasons for not allowing women in combat are because of the male chauvinistic culture. Concerns of how to make a large number of men and women share the same living space (housing, toilets etc) in wartime conditions, how to ensure that the women don't suffer harassment from male colleagues etc. (I'm sure even a trained female engineer in the army can make a civilian regret it if he takes liberties with her, but what if its other trained soldiers who harass her?) But the reason most often cited is the inescapable fact that a huge percentage of the jawans come from a rural background, and would find it difficult culturally to take orders from a woman officer. For that to change, society has to change.

I guess it's different in the paramilitaries, because (at least in India) they only do policing duties (with some exceptions). Also, it is easy to have an all woman unit in the BSF, but you can't expect that in the army - if you are asked to reinforce another unit, you can't say no because that unit is a different gender.

True...but I do wonder how Israel was able to alleviate these concerns to a very large extent ! They too, I presume, have their fair share of Orthodox Jews amongst more traditional Druze and Bedouins serving in the IDF ! Or perhaps their unique position of having conscription intrinsically linked to their survival as a State overrode those natural aversions (or prejudices at the very least) as a matter of necessity !

Khair..koi nahin ! Nice talking to you, ma'am !

 

[HANI]

medal for gun down un armed men with a cell phone and a sim good man u have hell of a women force they surely serve india in time of battle if we would not come with guns

 

[turkish]

medal for gun down un armed men with a cell phone and a sim good man u have hell of a women force they surely serve india in time of battle if we would not come with guns

You almost succeed in trolling .. Try again!!