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Still don't deserve to be tortured to death, Indians such a bully
BSF ‘torture to death’ a Bangladesh national in Chuadanga
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No one gives a Flyin F about your BBS propaganda garbage that gets asterisked in the WHO as "requires re-analysis".
The facts on the ground are that BD is a crappier, smellier, poorer and much worse version of India with a BBS/BAL statistics propaganda to try deflect this all.
Its why Dhaka is in the dung heap ranking (scrapping the bottom 5 consistently) with warzones and the worst of the sub saharan african cesspools in terms of liveability....i.e when 3rd parties actually go an analyse the reality for themselves. This is not a few ranks below major Indian cities but dozens and scores of rank difference. Its a source that is not controlled by BBS/BAL (or whoever is in power and wants to try hide/deflect reality)...so its no surprise.
Its very clear to anyone that has visited BD and sees the effluent running right in the middle of its capital (which turns to blood during animal slaughter festivals)....and the trip reports posted by Bangladeshis in this very forum about how EVERYONE smells and EVERYTHING is dirty (backed up by my BD friends in real life too)....that there is a huge dissonance between the visibly physical reality and what stats BBS puts out (again with the level of BD corruption in inferiority complex backed up by my BD friends) and gets on its knees to get accepted alongside countries that actually have a modicum of reputability in statistics gathering and analysis....and gets them through because who really cares that much about what BD claims is its reality?
Its why BD will stay in the LDC list too for a good long time, ultimately in the end, no one that matters is prepared to accept BD as a genuine developing country. Blah blah your numbers while everyone looks at the videos and pictures and the few trip reports by those brave/choiceless enough.
Next thing we know, in 10 years time, BD will be blaming India for this BBS hoax garbage too. It will add to the joke of a country that claims its better off in health compared to the country it sends millions of patients for basic treatment and surgeries to each year.
I used to be appreciative of BD health statistics. Now its clear to me what a sham it is given the attitude of BD people/govt at large and the externally based statistics/ reports that run counter to it. Lie at any cost to try disguise the inferiority complex...thats the BD way.
Any number that inherently comes from a BD source is untrustworthy and belongs in the garbage heap...a fitting description for the country as well.
I hope all passing neutral members read this and take it to heed.
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Its clear that these facts hit a nerve with you. 
These statistics are sourced from WHO - not from BBS. And certainly not from MOSPI, which is Modi's lap dog.
In hyper-nationalist India of the Modi era, there is a tendency to hide reality (seen most recently with the flag-printed mat fiasco) and present a 'glorious' India that is unconnected with reality. Thus it is hard to accept that Bangladesh' health stats can be better than India's. The fact that Indians have to compare their country to Bangladesh (and not to China) is itself an insult to India.
The point is you cannot insult and force people into respecting your nation. Respect for your nation comes when your nation acts respectably, with hyper-nationalists in power and rudely barking, India will find it hard to gain respect in the world.
It would be a shame if you belong to the hyper-nationalist camp, as I had thought of you otherwise, in spite of warnings from fellow Bangladeshi posters. Almost all of us Bangladeshi posters have been to India and know well the actual conditions. Some of you middle class urban Indians probably don't know what conditions Indian villages are in, especially in BIMARU and other backward states.
To wit - I was simply pointing out WHO stats reported by that UN agency and trying to educate the widespread 'bhakt' misconception in India that their country is somehow better than Bangladesh. Some states and minuscule areas in them probably are (Maharashtra, Gujarat and some Southern states), but most of India is not. The source of those UN stats is that report published in YOUR media.
You may not accept the fact that we can run our affairs better than you - but it is reality to all of us who know. Our NGO's to help our poor is at another level. We train Indian social workers routinely on how to upgrade all social indicators in India. This is not phallus-measuring, we are only trying to help you.
Why don't you take a trip sometime to Dhaka and see for yourself?
@Loki, @damiendehorn, @Khan saheb, @wanglaokan
These statistics are sourced from WHO - not from BBS. And certainly not from MOSPI, which is Modi's lap dog.
In hyper-nationalist India of the Modi era, there is a tendency to hide reality (seen most recently with the flag-printed mat fiasco) and present a 'glorious' India that is unconnected with reality. Thus it is hard to accept that Bangladesh' health stats can be better than India's. The fact that Indians have to compare their country to Bangladesh (and not to China) is itself an insult to India.
The point is you cannot insult and force people into respecting your nation. Respect for your nation comes when your nation acts respectably, with hyper-nationalists in power and rudely barking, India will find it hard to gain respect in the world.
It would be a shame if you belong to the hyper-nationalist camp, as I had thought of you otherwise, in spite of warnings from fellow Bangladeshi posters. Almost all of us Bangladeshi posters have been to India and know well the actual conditions. Some of you middle class urban Indians probably don't know what conditions Indian villages are in, especially in BIMARU and other backward states.
To wit - I was simply pointing out WHO stats reported by that UN agency and trying to educate the widespread 'bhakt' misconception in India that their country is somehow better than Bangladesh. Some states and minuscule areas in them probably are (Maharashtra, Gujarat and some Southern states), but most of India is not. The source of those UN stats is that report published in YOUR media.
You may not accept the fact that we can run our affairs better than you - but it is reality to all of us who know. Our NGO's to help our poor is at another level. We train Indian social workers routinely on how to upgrade all social indicators in India. This is not phallus-measuring, we are only trying to help you.
Why don't you take a trip sometime to Dhaka and see for yourself?
@Loki, @damiendehorn, @Khan saheb, @wanglaokan
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Its clear that these facts hit a nerve with you.
These statistics are sourced from WHO - not from BBS. And certainly not from MOSPI, which is Modi's lap dog.
In hyper-nationalist India of the Modi era, there is a tendency to hide reality (seen most recently with the flag-printed mat fiasco) and present a 'glorious' India that is unconnected with reality. Thus it is hard to accept that Bangladesh' health stats can be better than India's. The fact that Indians have to compare their country to Bangladesh (and not to China) is itself an insult to India.
The point is you cannot insult and force people into respecting your nation. Respect for your nation comes when your nation acts respectably, with hyper-nationalists in power and rudely barking, India will find it hard to gain respect in the world.
It would be a shame if you belong to the hyper-nationalist camp, as I had thought of you otherwise, in spite of warnings from fellow Bangladeshi posters. Almost all of us Bangladeshi posters have been to India and know well the actual conditions. Some of you middle class urban Indians probably don't know what conditions Indian villages are in, especially in BIMARU and other backward states.
To wit - I was simply pointing out WHO stats reported by that UN agency and trying to educate the widespread 'bhakt' misconception in India that their country is somehow better than Bangladesh. Some states and minuscule areas in them probably are (Maharashtra, Gujarat and some Southern states), but most of India is not. The source of those UN stats is that report published in YOUR media.
You may not accept the fact that we can run our affairs better than you - but it is reality to all of us who know. Our NGO's to help our poor is at another level. We train Indian social workers routinely on how to upgrade all social indicators in India. This is not phallus-measuring, we are only trying to help you.
Why don't you take a trip sometime to Dhaka and see for yourself?
@Loki, @damiendehorn, @Khan saheb, @wanglaokan
The advice I have gotten from my BD friends is never to set foot in BD. The worlds stinkiest hellhole. More evidence from a member here:
https://defence.pk/threads/why-bangladesh-sucks-and-will-suck-for-a-long-time-my-perspective.441599/
I head out and omg, this place is infested with people like cockroaches, everyone stinks etc etc.
You really think the WHO and UN collect the data and analysis by themselves? All their data is sourced from the BBS....the Bangladesh Bull$shit organisation. I went looking into it after you lot kept harping on and on about your health indices being the be all end all compared to India....the last thing (along with RMG being much more advanced than automobile manufacturing) that you lot can cling to....where do the UN HDR, WHO and the rest numbers ultimately come from? They certainly dont send legions of their workers to BD villages to collect data.
Nope. All they do is look at the methodology (ans basically have to assume its implemented 100% on the field and in the office) and rubber stamp what BD (BBS) provides them. So its very obvious thats the main reason BD stays in the LDC category and gets "pending re-analysis" next to its underlying raw data figures. A placeholder for BBS sucks but who really cares to do anything about it? Its not like theres competition and transparency here.
So when comparing such figures I am only going to rely on 3rd party foreign surveys and data acquisition. Anything that comes from the BBS, whether raw or processed/laundered by the UN or whoever....I am going to discredit and ignore....because it fundamentally arises from a deeply corrupt, polarised and viciously politically driven basket case with massive inferiority complex....and not even one parallel study by a fully foreign based 3rd party seems to concur with the BBS source data claims and supposed analysis derived from those.
There's a reason why Dhaka is rated in liveability below some of the worst hellholes imaginable on Earth. Main reason: the underlying data and methodology (in that study by the economist) does not come from the BBS.
Now you are free to ignore and discredit India's statistics too. That does not make BD somehow any more believable or reputable.
The main difference is India gets world attention and genuine focus...so I get lots of good 3rd party information beyond the statistics....both good and bad. Whereas BD is way off the beaten path and no one basically cares about it or visits it....or desires to. Change that and we might see some comparisons that can be made....but that needs a fundamental attitude overhaul from the BD people themselves.
According to who? You? The guy that claimed RMG workers are way more skilled then automobile industry workers?
Lets see a link to gauge how routine that is. Is it anywhere as routine as BD people clamouring for medical visas to India?(About a million per year according to your own members here who have said 90%+ have that as the reason for visiting India).
Or as routine as BD expats grabbing suitcase loads full of consumer goods from foreign countries when they can?... because they cant trust even named brand stores back in BD apparently. Good friend of mine does this each time before going back to BD. A big amusing shopping list (given by local family in BD) to take to walmart or wherever because nothing can be trusted in BD, even in the few posh areas apparently. Never heard of this regarding India for such basic things too (lotions, baby oils, shampoos and such). Then you lot wonder why your PPP multiplier is so low.
Fix your country guys....then brag about the handful of social workers you "train".
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This is from the Wall Street Journal,
How Poorer Bangladesh Outpaces India on Human-Development Indicators
By
JOANNA SUGDEN
Jun 5, 2015 1:09 pm IST
India is richer, in terms of per-capita economic output, than its smaller neighbor, Bangladesh, and a greater proportion of Indians are connected to the Internet and have cellphones.
But if you look more closely at other measures of development such as life expectancy, child survival and the proportion of girls to boys in secondary education, Bangladesh comes out ahead.
The two countries spend the same proportion (1%) of their gross domestic product on healthcare, but India devotes more of its GDP (3%) to education than Bangladesh (2%).
Still, 20 years of targeted financial support in Bangladesh to get girls to go to high school rather than, for example, get married, has helped dramatically shifted the needle on human-development indicators there.
“Gender equality is good for economic growth and good for human development. That is really part of what explains the quite remarkable achievements in Bangladesh,” said Christine Hunter, country representative for U.N. Women in Bangladesh.
In pursuit of the 2015 Millennium Development Goal to redress the lopsided gender imbalance in high schools, Bangladesh began the secondary-school subsidy program for girls in 1993.
Funded by the government, the Asian Development Bank, the Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation and the European Union, the education-payment program contributed to a tripling of participation rates of girls in secondary school between 1991 and 2005, according to a World Bank analysis. Bangladesh met the goal ahead of time.
Some 88% of women are literate in Bangladesh, compared to 68% of women in India. Though the overall adult literacy rate is lower in Bangladesh (59%) than in India (63%).
“The moment that there was education equality, there was power of the mind, then there was financial power,” said Joyeeta Bhattacharjee, research fellow on Bangladesh from Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi based think tank. “That is really helping Bangladesh to change.”
The gains in female education have, along with the booming garment industry, helped boost female participation in the paid labor force.
Around 36% of women were in paid jobs in Bangladesh in 2010, up from just 14% in 1990, according to the International Labor Organization.
By comparison, in India, female employment has gone backwards in recent years — from 37% in 2004-05 to 29% in 2009, according to the ILO.
Empowering women financially and establishing a thriving micro-credit system for female led small businesses, has also meant women have more say over financial decisions in the family.
“They try to prioritize health and education across everyone in their family,” said Ms. Hunter of the U.N.
From roughly the same base as India, Bangladesh has brought its life expectancy for both men and women up from 47 years to 70 years since 1970. Indians, on average, live to 66, according to United Nations’ data.
Child mortality rates too have come down, from 144 deaths per 1,000 under-fives in 1990 in Bangladesh, to 41 in 2013.
In that time, India has moved the dial on child mortality from 126 deaths per 1,000 children aged under five years old to 53 per 1,000.
India ranks 13 places below Bangladesh in child mortality globally.
“India can learn from the support that the government in Bangladesh has given to NGOs,” said Ms. Bhattacharjee. “It is trying to learn from the microcredit system.”
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https://thewire.in/5101/india-v-bangladesh-in-8-charts/
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Lessons for India from Bangladesh
Despite being desperately poor, Bangladesh has done much better than India on many social indicators
Manas Chakravarty
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First Published: Sun, May 19 2013. 11 34 PM IST
A file photo of clean-up work at the Rana Plaza building collapse in Dhaka. Photo: AFP
Bangladesh has recently been in the news for all the wrong reasons. The collapse of the by now infamous Rana Plaza has focused the spotlight on the dangerous working conditions in the garment sweatshops there. The country is, of course, the sordid underbelly of globalization. But the garment industry has also lifted millions in the country, especially women, out of poverty. In the inimitable words of Joan Robinson, “The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all.”
Bangladesh is a much poorer country than India. Its per-capita gross domestic product (GDP) based on purchasing power parity was $2,039 in 2012, compared with $3,830 for India, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Despite being desperately poor, the country has attracted international attention among development economists for the extraordinary improvement in its social indicators. Numerous studies have shown it has done much better than India when it comes to alleviating poverty, reducing child mortality, and on other such indicators of inclusive growth. This improvement has happened in spite of Bangladesh’s rate of GDP growth being well below India’s.
According to the latest United Nations (UN) Human Development Report, Bangladesh comfortably beats India on most such social indicators. It has lower infant and child mortality, higher life expectancy, and does better on gender equality. It has forged ahead of India on these social indicators despite the government spending little on health or education.
Bangladesh’s public spending on health, as a proportion of GDP, is the same as India’s, while public spending on education is much lower. Unlike India, welfare programmes haven’t derailed government finances—Bangladesh’s fiscal deficit is much lower than India’s.
A recent National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) paper by Manmohan Agarwal and John Whalley points out that Bangladesh’s pace of reduction in poverty, malnourishment, infant mortality and child mortality has been much faster than India’s. For instance, over the 2000-08 period, malnourishment declined by 22.9% in Bangladesh, compared with 14.2% in India. Between 1990 and 2005, child mortality fell by 55.1% in Bangladesh, compared with 35.3% in India.
A World Bank policy research paper points out that the most important factors for the decline of poverty in Bangladesh were higher real wages and higher productivity, while lower dependency ratios and a big increase in international remittances also helped.
Why are real wages rising in Bangladesh? It’s here that the garment industry comes in. Over the past few years, Bangladesh has successfully used its low-cost advantage to become a base for garment manufacturing. This has led to the migration of millions of people from rural areas into the manufacturing sector, with women being the biggest beneficiaries. Significantly, the share of employment in the formal sector in Bangladesh is 27.9%, well above that in India, and the proportion of working women in formal employment is even higher. India’s draconian labour laws have ensured that we miss out on the relocation of low-cost manufacturing out of China.
Also, the rise in non-farm employment, together with the increase in remittances from Bangladeshis working abroad (Bangladesh has a current account surplus thanks to them), has led to rising real wages in the countryside and a reduction in poverty rates. Jobs for the masses are the surest means of pulling people out of poverty. Contrast India’s jobless growth.
This is by no means the whole story. The improvement in social outcomes could not have happened without the country’s vast network of non-govern-mental organizations (NGOs), which have been at the forefront of improving health in rural areas. The country’s extensive microfinance programmes have also helped dent poverty. Microfinance is a contentious subject, with many claiming it does little for development and instead traps people in a cycle of debt. Other studies, however, have found significant welfare gains resulting from microcredit participation, especially for women. Research by S.R. Osmani (2012) found that in Bangladesh, “If microcredit had not existed rural poverty would have been almost 5 per cent higher than what it was in 2010.”
In short, a combination of higher real wages, higher productivity in farms, the use of NGOs as agencies for social development, and remittances from abroad have all helped provide a measure of inclusive growth in Bangladesh.
In India, however, growth has been far less inclusive. The paper by Agarwal and Whalley points out that the elasticity of reduction in poverty, malnourishment, infant mortality, child mortality and maternal mortality with respect to growth of per-capita GDP is much less in India than for other countries and regions and even lower than sub-Saharan Africa (see chart). That means the impact on poverty and other social indicators of a percentage point growth in per-capita GDP is lower in India than for most other regions.
India’s GDP growth in 2012, according to the IMF, was lower than Bangladesh’s and is forecast to be lower in 2013 and 2014 as well. The IMF seems to believe that Indian rates of growth will be near that of Bangladesh in the near future. That will hurt our already-poor social welfare measures. It may be time we learnt something from Bangladesh.
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http://www.theigc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Asadullah-Et-Al-2013-Policy-Brief.pdf
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How Poorer Bangladesh Outpaces India on Human-Development Indicators
By
JOANNA SUGDEN
Jun 5, 2015 1:09 pm IST
India is richer, in terms of per-capita economic output, than its smaller neighbor, Bangladesh, and a greater proportion of Indians are connected to the Internet and have cellphones.
But if you look more closely at other measures of development such as life expectancy, child survival and the proportion of girls to boys in secondary education, Bangladesh comes out ahead.
The two countries spend the same proportion (1%) of their gross domestic product on healthcare, but India devotes more of its GDP (3%) to education than Bangladesh (2%).
Still, 20 years of targeted financial support in Bangladesh to get girls to go to high school rather than, for example, get married, has helped dramatically shifted the needle on human-development indicators there.
“Gender equality is good for economic growth and good for human development. That is really part of what explains the quite remarkable achievements in Bangladesh,” said Christine Hunter, country representative for U.N. Women in Bangladesh.
In pursuit of the 2015 Millennium Development Goal to redress the lopsided gender imbalance in high schools, Bangladesh began the secondary-school subsidy program for girls in 1993.
Funded by the government, the Asian Development Bank, the Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation and the European Union, the education-payment program contributed to a tripling of participation rates of girls in secondary school between 1991 and 2005, according to a World Bank analysis. Bangladesh met the goal ahead of time.
Some 88% of women are literate in Bangladesh, compared to 68% of women in India. Though the overall adult literacy rate is lower in Bangladesh (59%) than in India (63%).
“The moment that there was education equality, there was power of the mind, then there was financial power,” said Joyeeta Bhattacharjee, research fellow on Bangladesh from Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi based think tank. “That is really helping Bangladesh to change.”
The gains in female education have, along with the booming garment industry, helped boost female participation in the paid labor force.
Around 36% of women were in paid jobs in Bangladesh in 2010, up from just 14% in 1990, according to the International Labor Organization.
By comparison, in India, female employment has gone backwards in recent years — from 37% in 2004-05 to 29% in 2009, according to the ILO.
Empowering women financially and establishing a thriving micro-credit system for female led small businesses, has also meant women have more say over financial decisions in the family.
“They try to prioritize health and education across everyone in their family,” said Ms. Hunter of the U.N.
From roughly the same base as India, Bangladesh has brought its life expectancy for both men and women up from 47 years to 70 years since 1970. Indians, on average, live to 66, according to United Nations’ data.
Child mortality rates too have come down, from 144 deaths per 1,000 under-fives in 1990 in Bangladesh, to 41 in 2013.
In that time, India has moved the dial on child mortality from 126 deaths per 1,000 children aged under five years old to 53 per 1,000.
India ranks 13 places below Bangladesh in child mortality globally.
“India can learn from the support that the government in Bangladesh has given to NGOs,” said Ms. Bhattacharjee. “It is trying to learn from the microcredit system.”
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https://thewire.in/5101/india-v-bangladesh-in-8-charts/
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Lessons for India from Bangladesh
Despite being desperately poor, Bangladesh has done much better than India on many social indicators
Manas Chakravarty
First Published: Sun, May 19 2013. 11 34 PM IST
A file photo of clean-up work at the Rana Plaza building collapse in Dhaka. Photo: AFP
Bangladesh has recently been in the news for all the wrong reasons. The collapse of the by now infamous Rana Plaza has focused the spotlight on the dangerous working conditions in the garment sweatshops there. The country is, of course, the sordid underbelly of globalization. But the garment industry has also lifted millions in the country, especially women, out of poverty. In the inimitable words of Joan Robinson, “The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all.”
Bangladesh is a much poorer country than India. Its per-capita gross domestic product (GDP) based on purchasing power parity was $2,039 in 2012, compared with $3,830 for India, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Despite being desperately poor, the country has attracted international attention among development economists for the extraordinary improvement in its social indicators. Numerous studies have shown it has done much better than India when it comes to alleviating poverty, reducing child mortality, and on other such indicators of inclusive growth. This improvement has happened in spite of Bangladesh’s rate of GDP growth being well below India’s.
According to the latest United Nations (UN) Human Development Report, Bangladesh comfortably beats India on most such social indicators. It has lower infant and child mortality, higher life expectancy, and does better on gender equality. It has forged ahead of India on these social indicators despite the government spending little on health or education.
Bangladesh’s public spending on health, as a proportion of GDP, is the same as India’s, while public spending on education is much lower. Unlike India, welfare programmes haven’t derailed government finances—Bangladesh’s fiscal deficit is much lower than India’s.
A recent National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) paper by Manmohan Agarwal and John Whalley points out that Bangladesh’s pace of reduction in poverty, malnourishment, infant mortality and child mortality has been much faster than India’s. For instance, over the 2000-08 period, malnourishment declined by 22.9% in Bangladesh, compared with 14.2% in India. Between 1990 and 2005, child mortality fell by 55.1% in Bangladesh, compared with 35.3% in India.
A World Bank policy research paper points out that the most important factors for the decline of poverty in Bangladesh were higher real wages and higher productivity, while lower dependency ratios and a big increase in international remittances also helped.
Why are real wages rising in Bangladesh? It’s here that the garment industry comes in. Over the past few years, Bangladesh has successfully used its low-cost advantage to become a base for garment manufacturing. This has led to the migration of millions of people from rural areas into the manufacturing sector, with women being the biggest beneficiaries. Significantly, the share of employment in the formal sector in Bangladesh is 27.9%, well above that in India, and the proportion of working women in formal employment is even higher. India’s draconian labour laws have ensured that we miss out on the relocation of low-cost manufacturing out of China.
Also, the rise in non-farm employment, together with the increase in remittances from Bangladeshis working abroad (Bangladesh has a current account surplus thanks to them), has led to rising real wages in the countryside and a reduction in poverty rates. Jobs for the masses are the surest means of pulling people out of poverty. Contrast India’s jobless growth.
This is by no means the whole story. The improvement in social outcomes could not have happened without the country’s vast network of non-govern-mental organizations (NGOs), which have been at the forefront of improving health in rural areas. The country’s extensive microfinance programmes have also helped dent poverty. Microfinance is a contentious subject, with many claiming it does little for development and instead traps people in a cycle of debt. Other studies, however, have found significant welfare gains resulting from microcredit participation, especially for women. Research by S.R. Osmani (2012) found that in Bangladesh, “If microcredit had not existed rural poverty would have been almost 5 per cent higher than what it was in 2010.”
In short, a combination of higher real wages, higher productivity in farms, the use of NGOs as agencies for social development, and remittances from abroad have all helped provide a measure of inclusive growth in Bangladesh.
In India, however, growth has been far less inclusive. The paper by Agarwal and Whalley points out that the elasticity of reduction in poverty, malnourishment, infant mortality, child mortality and maternal mortality with respect to growth of per-capita GDP is much less in India than for other countries and regions and even lower than sub-Saharan Africa (see chart). That means the impact on poverty and other social indicators of a percentage point growth in per-capita GDP is lower in India than for most other regions.
India’s GDP growth in 2012, according to the IMF, was lower than Bangladesh’s and is forecast to be lower in 2013 and 2014 as well. The IMF seems to believe that Indian rates of growth will be near that of Bangladesh in the near future. That will hurt our already-poor social welfare measures. It may be time we learnt something from Bangladesh.
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This is from the Wall Street Journal,
How Poorer Bangladesh Outpaces India on Human-Development Indicators
By
JOANNA SUGDEN
Jun 5, 2015 1:09 pm IST
India is richer, in terms of per-capita economic output, than its smaller neighbor, Bangladesh, and a greater proportion of Indians are connected to the Internet and have cellphones.
But if you look more closely at other measures of development such as life expectancy, child survival and the proportion of girls to boys in secondary education, Bangladesh comes out ahead.
The two countries spend the same proportion (1%) of their gross domestic product on healthcare, but India devotes more of its GDP (3%) to education than Bangladesh (2%).
Still, 20 years of targeted financial support in Bangladesh to get girls to go to high school rather than, for example, get married, has helped dramatically shifted the needle on human-development indicators there.
“Gender equality is good for economic growth and good for human development. That is really part of what explains the quite remarkable achievements in Bangladesh,” said Christine Hunter, country representative for U.N. Women in Bangladesh.
In pursuit of the 2015 Millennium Development Goal to redress the lopsided gender imbalance in high schools, Bangladesh began the secondary-school subsidy program for girls in 1993.
Funded by the government, the Asian Development Bank, the Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation and the European Union, the education-payment program contributed to a tripling of participation rates of girls in secondary school between 1991 and 2005, according to a World Bank analysis. Bangladesh met the goal ahead of time.
Some 88% of women are literate in Bangladesh, compared to 68% of women in India. Though the overall adult literacy rate is lower in Bangladesh (59%) than in India (63%).
“The moment that there was education equality, there was power of the mind, then there was financial power,” said Joyeeta Bhattacharjee, research fellow on Bangladesh from Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi based think tank. “That is really helping Bangladesh to change.”
The gains in female education have, along with the booming garment industry, helped boost female participation in the paid labor force.
Around 36% of women were in paid jobs in Bangladesh in 2010, up from just 14% in 1990, according to the International Labor Organization.
By comparison, in India, female employment has gone backwards in recent years — from 37% in 2004-05 to 29% in 2009, according to the ILO.
Empowering women financially and establishing a thriving micro-credit system for female led small businesses, has also meant women have more say over financial decisions in the family.
“They try to prioritize health and education across everyone in their family,” said Ms. Hunter of the U.N.
From roughly the same base as India, Bangladesh has brought its life expectancy for both men and women up from 47 years to 70 years since 1970. Indians, on average, live to 66, according to United Nations’ data.
Child mortality rates too have come down, from 144 deaths per 1,000 under-fives in 1990 in Bangladesh, to 41 in 2013.
In that time, India has moved the dial on child mortality from 126 deaths per 1,000 children aged under five years old to 53 per 1,000.
India ranks 13 places below Bangladesh in child mortality globally.
“India can learn from the support that the government in Bangladesh has given to NGOs,” said Ms. Bhattacharjee. “It is trying to learn from the microcredit system.”
Seen this article a million times already. I dont give a shit now about what the MSM picks up from tainted base sources like the BBS just because it has been laundered through the UN or what have you.
Any analysis becomes flawed if the underlying data comes from something like the BBS, a native politically controlled and motivated and deeply corrupt institution, reflective of its source country. I mean honestly this is a country where there has to be an interim govt holding the elections in between govts for the result to be acceptable apparently. So if the election comission is kaput like that, I'm not giving the benefit of the doubt to any other branch of govt.
Besides, these (MSM) were the same people braying that Hillary Clinton was going to win in a landslide with 100% confidence...and those came from polls (as bad as they were) with way more genuine data behind them than what BanglaBull$hit (BBS) puts out.
So two strikes already....there'd be more if I cared about this topic anymore.
So keep posting your lapdog leftist and MSM links to sell yourself whatever story helps you sleep at night....while the clear non-BD data based studies illustrate something entirely different. Case of the missing brains as far as patent and science output goes....and strangely terrible liveability in the capital city for such a healthy, sanitised, long living country.
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Even veteran journalists are all liers and you have the unvarnished truth....
Well I frankly have neither the taste nor the energy to 'spur' with you - so let's leave it at that.......
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Fair enough, i feel the same.
Adios.
And yes being a veteran of something (Esp journalism) doesnt mean you are automatically right.
Many have drastically fallen recently after the US elections precisely because of it.
I dont claim to have the unvarnished truth, but I do recognise the "truth" is something one cannot take at face value from the main stream media or any publication. The root sources must always be dug up and analysed thoroughly and the appropriate confidence level then given to any article that was based on it.
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i agree with you... the day when it crosses 3mil... how will they justify 3 mil by pakistan?
ps. there's nothing "islamic" about pakistan or any country that calls themselves islamic.
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Goes to show these BSF only can take on unarmed civilians. Another Innocent life taken away, by the barberic animal minded BSF. You will pay one day S.O.B!
Hope those BSF mofos, die a painful slow death, AMEEN.
Hope those BSF mofos, die a painful slow death, AMEEN.
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