Are you downplaying the impact of losing half your country? Bangladesh is on a golden path to economic glory right now, you could have paid off your loans and not be bankrupt. Bengali muslims would have had a moderation effect on your extremists and would have done wonders for your foreign policy and would have given a much more credible voice in the world. You screwed it up, grapes are sour I am sure now.
LOL, do you live under the rocks or what? Did you not read the unclassified papers of Pakistani authorities discussing the eventual separation of Bangladesh wayyyyyy before things got out of control and civil war erupted?
It was already decided that Bangladesh would no longer be a part of Pakistan. Bhutto even openly declared "Idhar hum, udhar tum" (as in SEPARATE nations with the SEPARATE electorate)----Pakistan just did not want Mujeeb ur Rehman to be at the helm of things when the inevitable separation happened. Pakistan did not "lose" half its territory. Bangladesh was already THOUSANDS of miles away from our mainland. No modern country has such geography, an survived. There is a reason for it.
We are happy for Bangladesh and hope for the best for them. We treated them very badly and unjustly. They rightfully separated from us. Today, Bangladesh is 90%+ consolidated Muslim nation with Islam at its state religion and neutral/secular government more or less. Good for them
There is
ZERO trauma in Pakistani society that oh Bangladesh is not with us etc etc. Whereas, indian hindus...especially the hindu right....is still bitter that Muslims divided broke
contiguous indian homeland and Hindus lost many of their holy lands. I just saw a speech by Subramanian Swamy and he was drying "There is no Hind without Sindh and no Hinduism without Sindhu river"
That's an exaggeration, the Hindus are still here. Muslims invaders did more harm to India than the mughals ever did. Mughals were weakened by non-muslim kingdoms in their last 200 years before the Brits came (sikhs, Jats, Marathas, Ahoms, etc.)
There is no exaggeration. The words I used are true.
Civilizational conquest is what happened to hindus at the hands of Islam (just like rising Islam did to Persians, Europeans, Christians, Jews, Egypt, and other Arabs).
Now, civilizational conquest and domination of grand scale does not always mean 100% erasure of a culture/peoples from the planet. Europeans imposed civilizational conquest in Africa and beyond. Africans are still there.
Islamic invaders/Mughals never intended to destroy "hinduism"completely 100%...There are no credible historical sources of mass and sustained Muslim efforts of mass conversions of hindus at the point of sword. "Oh we didn't convert while Iran converted!"---This is something hindus say to feel good about themselves because even hindus know how utterly humiliated they have been for thousands of years and how superior Muslims and later Europeans ruled them. Turko-Mongols never sought to "convert" regions to Islam like early Arab conquests. Even Bulgaria is not "Muslim majority" even though it remained under Ottoman rule for centuries. Reason? Simple, Muslim conquerors after the great Arab conquests never sought mass conversions. Stop fooling yourself with your mental masturbation of your own misery. You seem reasonable and not the hindutva tard type who believe Taj Mahal was Hindu temple lol
I agree on the backwardness part, muslims did bring technological and some social advancement to the sub-continent. Lack of organic infusion of new ideas was a big reason the hindu kings failed.
Surprising there are indians who still have some proper reading of history. Otherwise, all I see on your media is bunch of cooked up, long-debunked myths being fed to gullible audience.
New ideas replace old ones, christianity did that to paganism in Europe, islam did the same in Egypt, Iran and anatolia. One day a new idea may do the same to Islam. You have done nothing, you were born in a poor country, with very little contribution to human advancement.
True. Same applies to you and pretty much 99% of us. Anyways...
There will always be an India, and a more homogenised India will be more difficult to deal with for you. Do you have great relations with your muslim neighbours?
Pakistan has great relationships with every Muslim neighbor of ours and beyond. We have excellent relations with GCC, Turkey, Malaysia, Iran, and what have you. Only a particular section (Northern Alliance) of Afghanistan is against us, and they are
being dealt with easily. Pro-Pakistan factions are dominating Afghan landscape as we speak, we all the momentum with them
And how will india be more 'homogenized'? Lol. india is increasingly less homogenized and ever more fractured....with increasing Muslim population, Sikh and Christian minorities and RSS at odds, and divisive social conflict between secular system (courts, NGOs, activists, population) and hindu brahmincal elitist nationalism (led by BJP). Sabarimala temple was just one example. Lynchings and mob thrashing is literally
daily part of backward, socially tensed indian society.
The level of religious and social homogeneity in Pakistan is unmatched by anything india can ever hope for. Pakistan is
97% Muslim. Just let that sink in. Karachi is a city of 17-20 million people, and 97% of them Muslims. That's why Pakistan has
FAR LESS social conflict than india (and also ranks far higher on world's happiness index)
Just look at the map above. india is rife with social distrust between different ethnicities and people while Pakistan is socially integrated and is a 'high-trust' society
I can give you list upon list upon list of ethnic conflicts and pogroms that happened in india between different linguistic, ethnic, religious, and cultural groups....and it continues to this day. Such things are extremely, extremely rare in Pakistan. Violence in Pakistan for past decades has been more of an insurgency that rose in the aftermath of U.S invasion of our backyard but that's a different topic.
lol, everytime we see your PM beg the world for money, every time your media hypes up a cricket match and lose terribly, our humiliation knows no bounds.
"Beg"?? Using such terms won't hide the humiliating
facts I wrote above about india and hindus. Nobody "begs" for anything. Taking on debt from world's financial institutes is something countries engage in on the regular basis. indians did it, Turks did, Pakistanis did, Argentines did, and so on. Companies take on debt on a regular basis----you think they "beg" from banks for money?
Its 21st century. Debt is part of the game....and that's precisely why india's external debt to GDP ratio is not that far away from Pakistan's...Ask
@Nilgiri if he thinks debts = 'begging' Lol...
Its almost sad to see you bringing "cricket matches" and "celebrities" (whatever that means) as any sort of argument even. I'll just stop now I guess lol