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Often Indian's will talk of Pakistan having been created in 1947 from India. This carries a arrogant presumption that their India (Indian Republic) was unnaturaly carved and a country was fabricated on basis of religion. This conveys the organic nature of India and the artificial nature of Pakistan. I want to address this issue. This way of looking at 1947 is so accepted that even most Pakistani's even go along with the premise of this. So let us look at this carefully.
1. First you got to clarify are we talking about geographic India or the colonial India or Indian Republic. Three of these terms although all sharing the name"India" are not the same just as David Junior, David Senior would not be the same person.
2. The Geographic India refers to a region the boundary of which is loosely defined and is rather subjective. This geographic India includes today's Pakistan, Indian Republic, Bangladesh. I won't bother mentioing Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka. No one country has a especial claim to this geographic India.
This India is comparable to say Europe, Scandanavia, Iberia, Balkans, Maghreb etc. These are all geographic regions each with many countries occupying these regions. AS a geographic region the land has been there since before written history.
We now move on to British India. Let us make this clear. British India was a colony and was part of a empire that streched all over the world. We the people were colonized did not choose to be part of this colony. We were in fact enslaved by the British. This the definition British India.
Another way to look at British India is to regard it as a giant open air prison. We South Asians were slowly beaten, shot, killed and forced at gun point and then locked into this British prison built by our slavemaster who named British India.
The only justification and reason for the existance of British India was British greed and lust for power, Non of us wanted voluntarily to be in this British India. We were prisoners in this. In 1947 our prison sentance came to an end and we left this this prison to go our way. why do you find this unnatural?
Another thing I hear is people say it was British conspiracy to divide us. If this is so care to look at how be came to be togather in the first place. Let us look at just one example. Sindh. Sindh was a independant kingdom in 1843. Well the British did conspire no by dividing us but deciding to use force and uniting us by killing 6,000 Sindhi who did NOT want to be part of British India.
If 1947 was unnatural and a conspiracy what was 1843? Another British conspiracy to unite Sindh into India so that in 1947 they could un -unite it. It is ridicalous. Look at the stats for the Battle of Miani. 6,000 Sindhi died fighting to stop being part of British India. 260 British died making British India.
Battle of Miani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So everytime you think of 1947 elective detachment please think of that as opposite of the 1843 British enforced attachment.
Let us look at the map of British India.
and the flag.
India during the British Raj was made up of two types of territory: British India and the Native States (or Princely States).[20] In its Interpretation Act 1889, the British Parliament adopted the following definitions:
(1.) The expression "British India" shall mean all territories and places within Her Majesty's dominions which are for the time being governed by Her Majesty through the Governor-General of India or through any governor or other officer subordinate to the Governor-General of India.
(2.) The expression "India" shall mean British India together with any territories of any native prince or chief under the suzerainty of Her Majesty exercised through the Governor-General of India, or through any governor or other officer subordinate to the Governor-General of India.[1]
The British Raj extended over almost all present-day India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, with exceptions such as Goa and Pondicherry.[9] In addition, at various times, it included Aden (from 1858 to 1937),[10] Lower Burma (from 1858 to 1937), Upper Burma (from 1886 to 1937), British Somaliland (briefly from 1884 to 1898), and Singapore (briefly from 1858 to 1867). Burma was separated from India and directly administered by the British Crown from 1937 until its independence in 1948. The Trucial States of the Persian Gulf were theoretically princely states as well as Presidencies and provinces of British India until 1946 and used the rupee as their unit of currency.[11]
Among other countries in the region, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) was ceded to Britain in 1802 under the Treaty of Amiens. Ceylon was part of Madras Presidency between 1793 and 1798.[12] The kingdoms of Nepal and Bhutan, having fought wars with the British, subsequently signed treaties with them and were recognised by the British as independent states.[13][14] The Kingdom of Sikkim was established as a princely state after the Anglo-Sikkimese Treaty of 1861; however, the issue of sovereignty was left undefined.[15] The Maldive Islands were a British protectorate from
Preceded by
British India
Company rule in India
Emirate of Afghanistan
1. First you got to clarify are we talking about geographic India or the colonial India or Indian Republic. Three of these terms although all sharing the name"India" are not the same just as David Junior, David Senior would not be the same person.
2. The Geographic India refers to a region the boundary of which is loosely defined and is rather subjective. This geographic India includes today's Pakistan, Indian Republic, Bangladesh. I won't bother mentioing Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka. No one country has a especial claim to this geographic India.
This India is comparable to say Europe, Scandanavia, Iberia, Balkans, Maghreb etc. These are all geographic regions each with many countries occupying these regions. AS a geographic region the land has been there since before written history.
We now move on to British India. Let us make this clear. British India was a colony and was part of a empire that streched all over the world. We the people were colonized did not choose to be part of this colony. We were in fact enslaved by the British. This the definition British India.
Another way to look at British India is to regard it as a giant open air prison. We South Asians were slowly beaten, shot, killed and forced at gun point and then locked into this British prison built by our slavemaster who named British India.
The only justification and reason for the existance of British India was British greed and lust for power, Non of us wanted voluntarily to be in this British India. We were prisoners in this. In 1947 our prison sentance came to an end and we left this this prison to go our way. why do you find this unnatural?
Another thing I hear is people say it was British conspiracy to divide us. If this is so care to look at how be came to be togather in the first place. Let us look at just one example. Sindh. Sindh was a independant kingdom in 1843. Well the British did conspire no by dividing us but deciding to use force and uniting us by killing 6,000 Sindhi who did NOT want to be part of British India.
If 1947 was unnatural and a conspiracy what was 1843? Another British conspiracy to unite Sindh into India so that in 1947 they could un -unite it. It is ridicalous. Look at the stats for the Battle of Miani. 6,000 Sindhi died fighting to stop being part of British India. 260 British died making British India.
Battle of Miani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So everytime you think of 1947 elective detachment please think of that as opposite of the 1843 British enforced attachment.
Let us look at the map of British India.
and the flag.
India during the British Raj was made up of two types of territory: British India and the Native States (or Princely States).[20] In its Interpretation Act 1889, the British Parliament adopted the following definitions:
(1.) The expression "British India" shall mean all territories and places within Her Majesty's dominions which are for the time being governed by Her Majesty through the Governor-General of India or through any governor or other officer subordinate to the Governor-General of India.
(2.) The expression "India" shall mean British India together with any territories of any native prince or chief under the suzerainty of Her Majesty exercised through the Governor-General of India, or through any governor or other officer subordinate to the Governor-General of India.[1]
The British Raj extended over almost all present-day India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, with exceptions such as Goa and Pondicherry.[9] In addition, at various times, it included Aden (from 1858 to 1937),[10] Lower Burma (from 1858 to 1937), Upper Burma (from 1886 to 1937), British Somaliland (briefly from 1884 to 1898), and Singapore (briefly from 1858 to 1867). Burma was separated from India and directly administered by the British Crown from 1937 until its independence in 1948. The Trucial States of the Persian Gulf were theoretically princely states as well as Presidencies and provinces of British India until 1946 and used the rupee as their unit of currency.[11]
Among other countries in the region, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) was ceded to Britain in 1802 under the Treaty of Amiens. Ceylon was part of Madras Presidency between 1793 and 1798.[12] The kingdoms of Nepal and Bhutan, having fought wars with the British, subsequently signed treaties with them and were recognised by the British as independent states.[13][14] The Kingdom of Sikkim was established as a princely state after the Anglo-Sikkimese Treaty of 1861; however, the issue of sovereignty was left undefined.[15] The Maldive Islands were a British protectorate from
Preceded by
British India
