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British F-35 fighter jet crashes while flying off aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth
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By Brad Lendon, CNN

Updated 2:06 AM ET, Thu November 18, 2021

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The aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, with F-35 fighter jets on its deck, participates in the NATO Steadfast Defender 2021 exercise off the coast of Portugal, May 27, 2021.

(CNN)A British F-35, one of the newest stealth fighter jets in the UK military, crashed into the Mediterranean Sea on Wednesday morning while operating off the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, the UK Defense Ministry said in a tweet.

The pilot ejected and was returned safely to the ship, and an investigation of the incident, which occurred during routine flight operations, had begun, the ministry said.
Britain operates the F-35B, a single-engine, short-take-off vertical landing variant of the US-developed stealth jet, which cost about $115 million each to build.

In June, F-35s operating off the Queen Elizabeth flew combat missions over the Middle East against ISIS, the first combat action for a UK aircraft carrier in more than a decade.

"The ability to operate from the sea with the most advanced fighter jets ever created is a significant moment in our history, offering reassurance to our allies and demonstrating the UK's formidable air power to our adversaries," British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said in a statement at the time.

British F-35s saw their first combat in 2019, flying strikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria from a Royal Air Force base on the island of Cyprus.

With plans to acquire 138 F-35s, Britain would be the third-largest operator of the Lockheed-Martin produced jets, behind the United States and Japan.

Both the US and Japan have lost F-35s to accidents.


In September 2018, a US Marine Corps F-35B crashed in South Carolina, the first-ever crash of an F-35.

In April 2019, a Japanese F-35A crashed into the Pacific Ocean off northern Japan, killing its pilot. The Japanese Defense Ministry later attributed that crash to spatial disorientation, meaning the pilot couldn't sense his surroundings adequately and essentially flew the stealth fighter straight into the ocean during the night training mission.

In May 2020, a US Air Force F-35A crashed in Florida during routine training, but the pilot ejected safely.

After the crash Wednesday, the manufacturer of the F-35's ejection seat, British company Martin-Baker, touted its hardware. "We've saved 7,662 air crew lives from around the world to date," the company said on its Twitter page. Martin-Baker's ejection seats are used on a range of aircraft, not just F-35s.

The British crash comes on the last leg of a voyage for Queen Elizabeth, leading what the UK calls Carrier Strike Group 21, that saw it go as far as Japan and South Korea to participate in exercises with allies and partners as the Royal Navy tries to increase its global presence.

When the strike group departed the UK in the spring, Britain's Ministry of Defense described it as the largest concentration of maritime and air power to leave British shores in a generation.
US and Dutch warships are part of the strike group, and 10 US Marine Corps F-35s have been operating off the Queen Elizabeth along with eight British stealth jets.

When a version of this carrier strike group sailed together during military exercises off Scotland last fall, the UK Defense Ministry said it carried "the largest concentration of fighter jets to operate at sea from a Royal Navy carrier since HMS Hermes in 1983."

It also said it was "the largest air group of fifth-generation fighters at sea anywhere in the world." Fifth-generation fighters are the most advanced warplanes in the air.
There was no immediate word on whether the UK would try to recover the wreckage of the F-35 from the Mediterranean.

When the Japanese F-35 crashed in 2019, there was speculation the wreckage could be a target for potential adversaries such as Russia and China who could gain access to its advanced technology. But both the US and Japan dismissed that idea.

 
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Planes crash often, true, but not 5th Gen jets.
You haven't taken time and numbers into account.

There are over 700 F-35s, 195 F-22s.
5 F-35s and 5 F-22s crashed overall.
1.11% crashed. But the F-22s first flight is in 1997, and F-35s first flight is in 2006.



In comparison, there are only 12 Su-57s
1 Su-57 crashed.
Su-57s first flight is in 2010.
8.333% crashed.

150~ J20s have been built.
As of now, 0 crashed, at least that is what the Chinese media is reporting.
First flight was in 2011.

First F-35 crash has occurred 12 years after its first flight, in 2018.
J-20's first flight was in 2010, so basically, you can't say the J-20 is any more reliable than the F-35.
 
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But no jets were so much hyped as F-35 , no one comes even close. and this is it.
 
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British F-35 fighter jet crashes while flying off aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth
https://www.cnn.com/profiles/brad-lendon
By Brad Lendon, CNN

Updated 2:06 AM ET, Thu November 18, 2021

211117214053-hms-queen-elizabeth-file-052721-exlarge-169.jpg

The aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, with F-35 fighter jets on its deck, participates in the NATO Steadfast Defender 2021 exercise off the coast of Portugal, May 27, 2021.

(CNN)A British F-35, one of the newest stealth fighter jets in the UK military, crashed into the Mediterranean Sea on Wednesday morning while operating off the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, the UK Defense Ministry said in a tweet.

The pilot ejected and was returned safely to the ship, and an investigation of the incident, which occurred during routine flight operations, had begun, the ministry said.
Britain operates the F-35B, a single-engine, short-take-off vertical landing variant of the US-developed stealth jet, which cost about $115 million each to build.

In June, F-35s operating off the Queen Elizabeth flew combat missions over the Middle East against ISIS, the first combat action for a UK aircraft carrier in more than a decade.

"The ability to operate from the sea with the most advanced fighter jets ever created is a significant moment in our history, offering reassurance to our allies and demonstrating the UK's formidable air power to our adversaries," British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said in a statement at the time.

British F-35s saw their first combat in 2019, flying strikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria from a Royal Air Force base on the island of Cyprus.

With plans to acquire 138 F-35s, Britain would be the third-largest operator of the Lockheed-Martin produced jets, behind the United States and Japan.

Both the US and Japan have lost F-35s to accidents.


In September 2018, a US Marine Corps F-35B crashed in South Carolina, the first-ever crash of an F-35.

In April 2019, a Japanese F-35A crashed into the Pacific Ocean off northern Japan, killing its pilot. The Japanese Defense Ministry later attributed that crash to spatial disorientation, meaning the pilot couldn't sense his surroundings adequately and essentially flew the stealth fighter straight into the ocean during the night training mission.

In May 2020, a US Air Force F-35A crashed in Florida during routine training, but the pilot ejected safely.

After the crash Wednesday, the manufacturer of the F-35's ejection seat, British company Martin-Baker, touted its hardware. "We've saved 7,662 air crew lives from around the world to date," the company said on its Twitter page. Martin-Baker's ejection seats are used on a range of aircraft, not just F-35s.

The British crash comes on the last leg of a voyage for Queen Elizabeth, leading what the UK calls Carrier Strike Group 21, that saw it go as far as Japan and South Korea to participate in exercises with allies and partners as the Royal Navy tries to increase its global presence.

When the strike group departed the UK in the spring, Britain's Ministry of Defense described it as the largest concentration of maritime and air power to leave British shores in a generation.
US and Dutch warships are part of the strike group, and 10 US Marine Corps F-35s have been operating off the Queen Elizabeth along with eight British stealth jets.

When a version of this carrier strike group sailed together during military exercises off Scotland last fall, the UK Defense Ministry said it carried "the largest concentration of fighter jets to operate at sea from a Royal Navy carrier since HMS Hermes in 1983."

It also said it was "the largest air group of fifth-generation fighters at sea anywhere in the world." Fifth-generation fighters are the most advanced warplanes in the air.
There was no immediate word on whether the UK would try to recover the wreckage of the F-35 from the Mediterranean.

When the Japanese F-35 crashed in 2019, there was speculation the wreckage could be a target for potential adversaries such as Russia and China who could gain access to its advanced technology. But both the US and Japan dismissed that idea.


@aziqbal .... Hey Dude, were you flying this thing and crashed it by any chance??? Don't tell me these F35s are shi.t quality and being made in China !!! :omghaha: :omghaha:
 
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@aziqbal .... Hey Dude, were you flying this thing and crashed it by any chance??? Don't tell me these F35s are shi.t quality and being made in China !!! :omghaha: :omghaha:


yes HMS QE has covered over 22,000 miles and done operations continuously for over 6 months

a plane has crashed thats reality of carrier operations what would fanboys know

unlike China who is too scared to send its carrier out of South China Sea since 2011 its been 10 years incase it break down

thats difference between a loser and winner, winner can sustain the loss and move on

and thats why UK can send its carrier to South China Sea and Russia and China cannot send its assets anywhere near UK waters
But no jets were so much hyped as F-35 , no one comes even close. and this is it.

yes HMS QE has covered 70% of the Globe and it lost one plane yes the F35B

thats reality of naval warfare and carrier operations

the failure rate per hour is still very very small

unlike China who is too scared to send its carrier out of the South China Sea

if Casino Carrier CV16 did 22,000 miles in one go it would have lost its entire air wing by now with this copy cat J15
it's not very uncommon for plane crashes around the world , true, but not 5th Gen jets.

this is not a ordinary 5th generation fighter

its the only naval 5th generation fighter operating from a carrier

its a world first because British have the guts to be worlds first

they have the stomach to take the risk and big heart to make such a move

yes we lost it and its a shame, but the pilot is safe which is what counts

in China they would rather kill the pilot and save the plane just to show how reliable the aircraft to avoid embarrassment
 
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Taiwan TV mocks UK Navy's F-35 based aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth plunging into the sea
Taiwan TV mocks aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth for only sailing through south China sea last month, this ship is actually full of problems, water leakage accidents also happened to the ship, commenting that UK barely had enough money to built them, and after building them, they surely don't have any money left to maintain them, the paint of carrier has already started to peel off.

The report also says the UK doesn't have good modern supporting ships to form a decent carrier fleet group, the legacy and rundown old ships which are serving this job makes UK carriers very vulnerable to be attacked by enemy ships and planes.
 
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Taiwan TV mocks UK Navy's F-35 based aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth plunging into the sea
Taiwan TV mocks aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth for only sailing through south China sea last month, this ship is actually full of problems, water leakage accidents also happened to the ship, commenting that UK barely had enough money to built them, and after building them, they surely don't have any money left to maintain them, the paint of carrier has already started to peel off.

The report also says the UK doesn't have good modern supporting ships to form a decent carrier fleet group, the legacy and rundown old ships which are serving this job makes UK carriers very vulnerable to be attacked by enemy ships and planes.
Bullshit. At least most of it.

The HMS carriers overall have had less problems than the Chinese and Indian carriers recently.
 
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Bullshit. At least most of it.

The HMS carriers overall have had less problems than the Chinese and Indian carriers recently.
LOL, The only problem for the Chinese navy is that China's unrivaled shipbuilding industry builds naval ships too fast

just since 2014, China has launched naval vessels with a total tonnage greater than the tonnages of the entire French, German, Indian, Italian, South Korean, Spanish or Taiwanese navies (see graphic).
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Taiwan TV mocks UK Navy's F-35 based aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth plunging into the sea
Taiwan TV mocks aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth for only sailing through south China sea last month, this ship is actually full of problems, water leakage accidents also happened to the ship, commenting that UK barely had enough money to built them, and after building them, they surely don't have any money left to maintain them, the paint of carrier has already started to peel off.

The report also says the UK doesn't have good modern supporting ships to form a decent carrier fleet group, the legacy and rundown old ships which are serving this job makes UK carriers very vulnerable to be attacked by enemy ships and planes.

Considering the number of active F35s out there and the number of sorties & flying hours that have been accumulated by this single engine aircraft I say the jet has a pretty decentrecord
F35 is a pretty darn good machine
Mocking it on the basis of a single crash is absurd & hilarious
 
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and thats why UK can send its carrier to South China Sea and Russia and China cannot send its assets anywhere near UK waters
After a lapdog on a tight leash being walked by its master in a park, the lapdog believes it took a walk in a park by itself.
Considering the number of active F35s out there and the number of sorties & flying hours that have been accumulated by this single engine aircraft I say the jet has a pretty decentrecord
F35 is a pretty darn good machine
Mocking it on the basis of a single crash is absurd & hilarious
Maybe Taiwanese don't believe so.lol
 
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