Britain would 'struggle' in a war against Russia, former defence chiefs warn

[Gibbs]

Actually I shouldn't have said Romania. I should have said Bessarabia. Didn't the Russians take the land back in 1940? I always thought this land grab by Russia was before Operation Barbarossa and this made Hitler nervous about Stalin.

I thought Bessarabia was a Russian enclave to begin with later annexed to Moldova ? Was'nt Romanian influence more recent as the 1800's ? After the Ottoman handover ?.. Correct me if i'm wrong..

@flamer84

 

[SipahSalar]

In other news the sky is blue. OF COURSE the british would "struggle" against the Russians. Struggle is an overstatement though. It will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[vostok]

I thought Bessarabia was a Russian enclave to begin with later annexed to Moldova ? Was'nt Romanian influence more recent as the 1800's ? After the Ottoman handover ?.. Correct me if i'm wrong..

Moldova was part of the Ottoman Empire, most of it (Bessarabia) went to Russia as a result of Russian-Turkish war in 1812. In 1918, annexed by Romania. In 1940, became part of the Soviet Union.

 

[flamer84]

I thought Bessarabia was a Russian enclave to begin with later annexed to Moldova ? Was'nt Romanian influence more recent as the 1800's ? After the Ottoman handover ?.. Correct me if i'm wrong..

@flamer84

You're very wrong.It was never part of any Russian domain until 1812.It was part of the Principality of Moldova since the 14th century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia

Moldova was part of the Ottoman Empire, most of it (Bessarabia) went to Russia as a result of Russian-Turkish war in 1812. In 1918, annexed by Romania. In 1940, became part of the Soviet Union.

Wrong again.Anyone on the internet could read that Moldova was a vassal state of the Ottoman empire in 1812 not part of it.It was also part of Romania between 1859-1878.In fact Russia took something from a fellow Othodox Christian state not from the Ottomans in spite of the protests from the Moldovan nobility.It came disguised as a liberator and turned into a conqueror and a colonist.

In 1918 it was not "annexed" by Romania,it simply came back to the motherland.

You can obviously spot the bolshevik's troll propaganda .A Romanian majority areea simply "went" to Russia according to him but when it rejoins another majority ethnic Romanian country it is "annexed".And you barbarians wonder why you're so despised in this part of the world and everybody is so willing to join NATO...

In 10-15 years time we will dance on the graveyard of Russia just as we danced on the Austro-Hungarian one.

 

[Gibbs]

Moldova was part of the Ottoman Empire, most of it (Bessarabia) went to Russia as a result of Russian-Turkish war in 1812. In 1918, annexed by Romania. In 1940, became part of the Soviet Union.

Thats what i thought too

 

[flamer84]

Thats what i thought too

Except that what the troll said isn't right historically as you can easily find out from the wiki link.

 

[Gibbs]

Except that what the troll said isn't right historically as you can easily find out from the wiki link.

I'm not disputing you or him.. Just stating what i thought was.. I will read more up on that.. Btw just because somebody has a divergent view does not necessarily make him a troll.. Not unless he diverts the subject

 

[flamer84]

I'm not disputing you or him.. Just stating what i thought was.. I will read more up on that.. Btw just because somebody has a divergent view does not necessarily make him a troll.. Not unless he diverts the subject

Actually he is.There's a limit to "divergence" when it comes to historical facts.And don't get me started on the terms he used like "went to Russia" or "annexed by Romania".That is sheer idiocy when clearly it's the other way around.

If i come to you on the street ,steal your wallet and than you come with the police and take it back...did you "steal" "my" wallet when you took it back ?

 

[Gibbs]

Actually he is.There's a limit to "divergence" when it comes to historical facts.And don't get me started on the terms he used like "went to Russia" or "annexed by Romania".That it's sheer idiocy when clearly it's the other way around.

If i come to you on the street ,steal your wallet and than you come with the police and take it back...did you "steal" my wallet when you took it back ?

Mate history is written in many versions.. And each nation has it's own version.. So he may well have the same view about you.. Just saying.. Anyway can you refer me some other sources on the subject as well other than Wiki.. I would like to enhance my knowledge on Slavic civilizations especially.. Cheers

 

[flamer84]

Mate history is written in many versions.. And each nation has it's own version.. So he may well have the same view about you.. Just saying.. Anyway can you refer me some other sources on the subject as well other than Wiki.. I would like to enhance my knowledge on Slavic civilizations especially.. Cheers

A simple google gives you all the informations you want-plus the wiki link has a tonne of exterior links,it's not "made up history".And no,sometimes history is clear and cut (like this time),denying it would only mean revizionism.And i don't care about the slav civilisation as i'm not slav,neither are Moldovans,who btw,still make up to 70% of today's Besserabia after all the deportations and forced colonisation.

 

[AugenBlick]

They don't have the indian army this time like the WWs

 

[Declein]

Russia preety much saved the UK from being invaded in WWII by diverting and holding the Nazi forces in the European theater. The Brits like to remind the world about the air battle of Britain. Fact of the matter is that after France, Britain would have been next.

Never heard this one before..
UK wasn't invaded because this thing exists - English Channel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - and unless the Wermacht grew wings they couldn't do a damn thing about invading the UK. USSR isn't important in this matter.

In our current times the UK would be hard pressed to check the Russian airforce alone..luckily, they're not alone