Britain removes citizenship from two IS brides of Pakistani heritage

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I have come across several Brit Paks like that, who are so ashamed of their heritage that they consider everything to do with Pakistan unislamic. They were busy trying to gather money for Palestine, and got P!ssed off when my brother asked them why don't you raise money for your Kashmiri Muslims brothers too? (These guys were originally from Azad Kashmir.)

These are the types of people who I literally have to stop myself from physically assaulting. I think they have some sort of fetish to becoming concubines for some Arab Bedouin sheikhs.

I HAVE exactly the same sentiments as you bro. The worst amongst them are the Pakistani members of Hizb-ut-Tahir. They hate Pakistan more than the indians do. They claim that Pakistan is the most "Kuffar" nation on earth. They NEVER criticize the Arab nations for being corrupt ot "Anti-Ummah"....I wonder why?.......they are not Muslims but Arab worshippers. F**k allof them. Make no mistake about it, Hizb-Ut-Tahrir is an ANTI-Pakistani organisation.

Those wars in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen are approved by the Western powers and hence no one bothered to stop these indoctrinated youths from heading there to join in Yankee jihad against their legitimate governments.

What started as simple protest marches were hijacked by political groups funded by the US and world powers, like Muslim Brotherhood of those nations and the MB diaspora. Then quite easily, they funneled Daesh fighters (from uneducated and alienated convert backgrounds in every Western country including tiny Caribbean islands) to use in those Muslim countries to justify Western military presence and division of those regions.

On the topic of Kashmir, that cause simply does not serve any benefit for the Western powers, hence it is termed by their radicalized puppets as "non-religious" or "Pakistani nationalist" drama which is "against Islam." Unfortunately this way of thinking has found prevalence all over the Muslim world, but especially in the Arab world, leading many of our Muslim coreligionists to support the Indian brutality.

We are engaged in the fight for the soul of the Muslim world, with countries like Pakistan and Turkey on one side focusing on internal economic, educational development and Muslim unity, and self-righteous regimes like Arab countries ready at any time to serve Western masters for their proxy wars.

PAKISTAN FIRST PAKISTAN FIRST........F**k the rest.

 

[The Eagle]

Pakistan has done a lot for others mistakes & their crimes in past and so we paid heavily but no more. Be it UK, US, EU anyone, whosoever allowed such radicalization in first place inside their own country and then let their respective citizen to go and join ISIS, shall bear the aftermath as well. Why no Guantanamo this time or why there is no sanction discussion in UN and everywhere else? against the country.

Speaking of heritage then London Mayor is Pakistani and also, Australian Cricketer Usman Khawaja scored century against Indian Cricket Team the day they wear Army Capes recently is also, a Pakistani. Sajid Javid, is also a Pakistani who stripped them off Citizen.

By the way Bangladeshi bride namely Begum was married to a Dutch ISIS fighter. These countries needs to do more.

 

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PAKISTAN FIRST PAKISTAN FIRS

Just because something does not work in its pristine form, does it mean we give up on the idea completely? Why can't we strive for a Pakistani-centric Ummah? Not led by Iran, not led by Saudi but by Pakistan herself?

 

[MastanKhan]

Then don't go to Syria. I don't see Syrians going to Kashmir to help them even before the civil war started in 2011.

Because pakistanis are Thaykaydars ( contractors ) of islam---.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Seems like anything Pakistani is seen as non-Muslim/Kuffar by non-Pakistani Muslims. It also seems like some Pakistanis have bought this narrative too. Some of the Pakistani members of Hizb-ut-Tahir share this view. Burn all of them alive.

I have seen this also. In America, talking about Pakistan means you are a fake Muslim, nationalist munafiq, and also everything you say must be rejected.

This is what has happened when MB has taken over every major masajid and Muslim organization in the US, it has pushed out Pakistanis and Kashmiris from the fold of legitimate Islam.

It is quite pitiful as any calls for Kashmir are drowned out by Arabs howling about Palestine, and outright rejection by diaspora Indian Muslims, some Bangladeshis, and Afghans.

We have gotten to the point where even Black Muslims, once the most pro-Pakistani community in the US, have begun to lump us in with Arabs as immigrant Muslims and come to revile Pakistan as a nation.

I HAVE exactly the same sentiments as you bro. The worst amongst them are the Pakistani members of Hizb-ut-Tahir. They hate Pakistan more than the indians do. They claim that Pakistan is the most "Kuffar" nation on earth. They NEVER criticize the Arab nations for being corrupt ot "Anti-Ummah"....I wonder why?.......they are not Muslims but Arab worshippers. F**k allof them. Make no mistake about it, Hizb-Ut-Tahrir is an ANTI-Pakistani organisation.

Hizb should be banned from Pakistan and any membership to that organization should lead to mandatory jail time and re-education. It is a violent takfiri organization used by various powers to further regime change and cause disunity in Muslim nations.

There are many Hizbis on social media from Pakistan, our government needs to do more. We should have a dedicated anti-extremism ministry which should watch Sunni and Shia masajid and organizations to prevent furthering of anti-Pakistan ideology.

Those in the diaspora who criticize Pakistani army/government and promote disinformation about our country for Western and Western Muslim audiences should be barred from Pakistan and their relatives should be investigated.

For example, this Ahmadiyya spokesman ( Qasim Rashid Esq. ) in the US is capitalizing on the anti-Trump social media circles to popularize himself and his anti-Pakistan agenda.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Just because something does not work in its pristine form, does it mean we give up on the idea completely? Why can't we strive for a Pakistani centric Ummah? Not led by Iran, not led by Saudi but by Pakistan herself?

The non-Pakistani Muslims hate the idea of the Ummah. They will NEVER give up their nationalism, culture and heritage, which is not compatiable with ours. We can make Pakistan strong, advanced and powerful. We can't do ANYTHING for other non-Pakistani Muslims, nor do they want us to. The afghans are a prime example.

 

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The non-Pakistani Muslims hate the idea of the Ummah

Is that not also the root cause of many of the geo-political problems facing the muslim world at large? Because the rest of the world does not distinguish between a Pakistani muslim and an Egyptian muslim unless it suits their interests

They will NEVER give up their nationalism, culture and heritage, which is not compatiable with ours

They don't have to. All I am asking is that the Muslim world at large has one political voice for challenges they face against rest of the world

The afghans are a prime example.

This "brotherhood" has to be a two way street. If some country does not want to reciprocate so be it. But we shall be willing to forgive and accept them back provided they are willing to change their ways

We can make Pakistan strong, advanced and powerful

Hopefully we will. A Pakistan that the world in general and Islamic world in particular looks up to

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This "brotherhood" has to be a two way street. If some country does not want to reciprocate so be it. But we shall be willing to forgive and accept them back provided they are willing to change their ways

Exactly, this is precisely why Bangladesh does not invalidate the raison d'être of Pakistan. Pakistan was created for Islam, but also we represent a single historical, cultural mindset within the great Muslim Ummah.

Bangladeshis share our faith, but do not share our historical, cultural experience, therefore the separation of the two was inevitable.

Hopefully we will. A Pakistan that the world in general and Islamic world in particular looks up to

As we make Pakistan stronger economically, politically, and militarily, all those doubter will again come back seeking our guidance. What Pakistan lost in prestige and place in 1971 will be regained with our new success.

 

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therefore the separation of the two was inevitable.

Or we could have handed them power or allowed them to part ways peacefully. It should have never resulted in a war

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Or we could have handed them power or allowed them to part ways peacefully. Is should have never resulted in a war

I don't think so brother, that would set a very dangerous precedent. Bangladesh should have become separate in 1947.

Things happened that way thanks to the plan of Allah swt. Today we are totally over it, but can't say the same for Hasina.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

These are the three largest Sunni Muslim groups in the UK.

People of Turkish origin is the third largest Muslim group, far, far larger then Somali's. Even Iraqi's form a good chunk. What also must be understood is that the conflicts that attract radicals are related to mostly Arab regions but funny enough attract limited number of Arabs ~ although you would expect them to be top of the list as they are directly linked to those regions like Syria.

Pakistan's who you would expect would head off to Indian Occupied Kashmir seem instead more to be constipated by USA and Mid-East or Palestine/Israel. The Somali's who are in dire straits back in their country making a living out of piracy seem on arriving in UK suddenly also to get constipated about Palestine etc and attack their host country - UK. I also note that there is huge number of Indian Muslims. By and large they also avoid being prostituted to Ummah causes.

Muslim world at large has one political voice

It never will. If you look at the history of the Muslim world soon after demise of the prophet [PBUH] we saw murders, killings, internecine warfare for the last 1,200 years. So what makes you think a history from almost the begining of Islam era is going to change now?

Pakistani-centric Ummah?

Because the two concepts are contradicting each other. You can't mix oil with water. A geographic bordered nation state cannot function as owner or arbiter of a universal religion. To begin with would you give citizenship a Muslim arriving at Islamabad Airport once he/she has established their faith?

 

[Pandora]

These people were born, raised and even radicalised in Britian so how the fcuk they become of pakistani heritage? It was the incompetence and stupidity of britain that allowed these british citizens to become bunch of lunatics.

 

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It never will

Of course you will never be able to get everyone on-board

So what makes you think a history from almost the begining of Islam era is going to change now?

The large scale marginalization of the muslim world should be the catalyst to knock some sense in to the leadership (if they have any sense to begin with). Lets face it the muslim world faces challenges in the international arena that are unique to it. Now else gives a damn about these interests because of their contradictory counter arguments
1) Islam is a 7th century religion
2) Islam was born yesterday
3) We (rest of the world) were here before you

We all know how quickly the South Sudan and East Timor issues were resolved because the beneficiaries were not muslims

P.S.
And yes once the external threat is over we will go back being our selfish selves. Then this is true for any composite group of people

To begin with would you give citizenship a Muslim arriving at Islamabad Airport once he/she has established their faith?

Why go in to absolute implementations? How about open borders for a start (on a reciprocal basis)?

 

[Pakistani E]

Those in the diaspora who criticize Pakistani army/government and promote disinformation about our country for Western and Western Muslim audiences should be barred from Pakistan and their relatives should be investigated.

For example, this Ahmadiyya spokesman ( Qasim Rashid Esq. ) in the US is capitalizing on the anti-Trump social media circles to popularize himself and his anti-Pakistan agenda.

Please stop mentioning people you don't know. I know Qasim Rashid and have met him. He is not anti Pakistan. Like most other Ahmadi diaspora, he is annoyed at Pakistani state's persecution of Ahmadis and criticizes it.

Apart from this, he is of course an Ahmadi scholar of sorts, so stop mixing his preaching of Ahmadiyya teachings, and his stance against persecution of Ahmadis together as some sort of agenda against Pakistan.

 

[Imran Khan]

Great news