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Guy must be talking out of his behind, I guess.
"BRICS" open the doors to 4 senior Arab countries
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Guy must be talking out of his behind, I guess.
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Six of the world's top eight oil-producing countries have joined BRICS. Next, we look forward to Indonesia, Turkey, Mexico, Pakistan and Bangladesh joining BRICS. According to rumors in China, France also has some intention to join BRICS.
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BRICS will fail also, all thsi countries are not in the same boat interests...
It s a good try for poor coutnries subjected to possible sanctions from the US, but a lot of this coutnries can be invaded if US wants any day.
An alliance without cliear red lines and military articles is groundless.
It s a good try for poor coutnries subjected to possible sanctions from the US, but a lot of this coutnries can be invaded if US wants any day.
An alliance without cliear red lines and military articles is groundless.
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Well - LKY and Kishore Mahbubani were right. I've been following Kishore for about a decade and the guy is brilliant. He was the president of the UN security council , was a dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, National University of Singapore. He predicted all this.
What happens when China becomes No. 1?
Let me begin with three incontrovertible facts. First, China will become the No. 1 economic power in the world. Second, most Americans, like most Westerners, view China's rise with great foreboding. Third, the role that China will play as the No. 1 economic power has not been cast in stone. Read...
Kishore Mahbubani - Wikipedia
You can pooh pooh this and spew "sky is falling" theories, but "invasion" by US?
Trade sanctions are one thing, but "invasion"?
Remember what happened when each time the US "invaded" foreign countries? North Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan?
All militarily weak (at the time of invasion) countries.
The US had Grand successes - in all cases? Bzzzttt - not!!
More like clusterf*cks and dumpster fires.....
The US for a superpower has incredibly inept foreign policy.
I say this as a US Citizen.
The three big reasons (among various other things) why this new grouping BRIC is emerging, is because, as mentioned in Kishore's article above,
"This Chinese confidence of mutual interdependence was shattered when the US Fed announced the first round of Quantitative Easing measures in November 2008. The Fed's actions demonstrated that the US did not have to rely on China to buy US Treasury bills.
The second American action was to engage in extraterrestrial application of domestic laws. It did this when it prosecuted several banks, including HSBC, RBS, UBS, Credit Suisse and Standard Chartered.
In 2012, the US fined Standard Chartered US$340 million (about S$450 million) for making payments to Iran. Most Americans reacted with equanimity to the bank being fined for dealing with the "evil" Iranian regime.
But Standard Chartered, domiciled in the United Kingdom, had broken no British laws. Nor had it violated any mandatory sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council.
However, since almost all international payments have to go through the US payment mechanism, Standard Chartered was fined for violating American laws. In short, the US was applying American laws to non-American citizens and non-American corporations operating outside America.
The third American action was to threaten countries by denying them access to the Swift system. Since all international payments have to go through the Swift system, any country denied access to the Swift is thrown into a black hole and denied access to any kind of international trading and investment.
In a recent column, Fareed Zakaria described well the Russian reaction to the possibility of being denied access to the Swift system. In Western media commentaries, President Vladimir Putin is often portrayed as the bad guy and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is portrayed as the good guy. Yet, it was the "good guy" who said: "Russian response - economically and otherwise - will know no limits."
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"They illustrate why America should study its own recent deeds through a simple lens: Would it like China to replicate these deeds when China becomes No. 1? The reason for using this lens is that when China clearly becomes No. 1, it is likely to replicate America's deeds, not its words.
America was able to and could threaten to act unilaterally in the three cases I cited because it is clear that America is still the reigning Emperor of the global financial system.
It unilaterally controls the global reserve currency, the US dollar. In theory, the US dollar is a global public good but, in practice, it is an instrument of American domestic and foreign policies.
There is therefore the big danger of the US using global public goods, like the US dollar, international banking transactions, and the Swift system, for unilateral purposes and ends.
It will encourage the world, especially China, to work towards creating an alternative global order. If that happens, the world will become a far messier place."
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Well - LKY and Kishore Mahbubani were right. I've been following Kishore for about a decade and the guy is brilliant. He was the president of the UN security council , was a dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, National University of Singapore. He predicted all this.
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What happens when China becomes No. 1?
Let me begin with three incontrovertible facts. First, China will become the No. 1 economic power in the world. Second, most Americans, like most Westerners, view China's rise with great foreboding. Third, the role that China will play as the No. 1 economic power has not been cast in stone. Read...www.straitstimes.com
Kishore Mahbubani - Wikipedia
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You can pooh pooh this and spew "sky is falling" theories, but "invasion" by US?
Trade sanctions are one thing, but "invasion"?
Remember what happened when each time the US "invaded" foreign countries? North Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan?
Grand successes - all. Bzzzttt!!
More like clusterf*cks and dumpster fires.....
The US for a superpower has incredibly inept foreign policy.
I say this as a US Citizen.
You have to be realist, US is going to resist this, and is going to do whatever to be the homogeneous power.
Weak countries will pay if not protected by alliance. People must believe in reasonable things.
Can we add Taiwan then?
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You my friend are 25 years too late, and so are the Washington bigwigs.
The world has moved on - the self-congratulatory insular US thought process is behind the times.
The US is not in "leader" mode but in "desperate arm-twister" mode, and that too in smaller 3rd world countries. Trying to hold back the inevitable. I hope they emerge from this buffoonery and make the best of the situation, if only to benefit themselves.
Try they may, but the caravan is already in motion, dogs may bark, but they won't be able to stop it.
I go to China every other year and also every year to Malaysia and Thailand.
The world is not the same place people in the US and EU imagine. It has moved on.
People call this the "post-American" century for a reason.
Buy a plane ticket to go see Asia (and especially China) sometime, you will get some idea.
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You don t want to catch my message. I m a wisher of multi polar world.
I mean to say a lot of these countries can be forced to be useless in BRICS. I only see 3 countries untouchable: Russia, China and Iran. The rest will bow if forced and pressured (war and heavy western sanctions).
We all know it.
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Wrong thread HaHaHa!1
Why the group want to add Taiwan, it's not a country but a small province of China. Only Indian fools logic think that way.
France is not a developing nation, so it's out the question.
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Pakistan is a key strategic player and has a strategic location, Any BRICS is incomplete without Pakistan. India is the elephant in the room that needs to be booted out.
Why would group want Pakistan and not Taiwan? Who is this group by the way?
Talk nonsense.
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Independence has its own costs my Greek hypocrite.
Btw, BRICS will introduce its own currency and we won't need to translate other currencies into dollar. Russians are eagerly looking for it, therefore i am sure that it will come to fruition.
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