Breaking: UN: We were ‘blackmailed’ into removing Saudi Arabia from blacklist after just a week

[Arabian Stallion]

The UN is far from clean. Saudis threatened to cut off bribe money it pays to a 'dirty organization' to remove it's names which shows exactly where Saudis stand.

It's like bribing a corrupt cop and threatening that corrupt cup with that money when he wants to report one of your crimes, one is dirty, other is dirtiest.



Do you think the useless list of a parody organization like UN really matters here? There is no need to be butthurt, the exact opposite. World media is doing a fine job showing a dirty and a dirtier (UN, Saudi regime) entity dealing with each other like this.

The only thing the world knows now is: Saudis killed children and blackmailed useless UN to get their name clean which had the opposite result. We are just sitting here and watching.

One with enough intelligence can easily understand that things went the worst way poaaible for Saudis.

Do you think that we care? I could personally not care less as this will not change anything on the ground. Everyone already knows that the UN is a useless organization, that all countries who are at war or have been at war should be blacklisted as all of them have killed civilians and that wars are ugly.

Nor is KSA looking after its own interests like any regional power and influential country anything new. KSA is a innocent lamb compared to the Security Council Member States (just in recent times let alone historically) on this front as well as compared to numerous other MENA states.

Anyway Houthi's are to be blamed for most of the civilian casualties in Yemen. It's not KSA's problem that those terrorists foolishly thought that they could conquer all of Yemen. Or that the Houthi's deliberately hide among civilians and use child soldiers on a large scale, which is something that the same UN report has confirmed. Or that KSA has much greater firepower. They should not have messed with a much stronger party. Simple as that.

Besides Iranians, who are worshipping the Al-Assad regime and whose Mullah's are directly supporting that regime, which is responsible for 100 times more civilian casualties, are the last people on this planet to point fingers. Not that their barking is of any importance.

This news just confirms KSA's big political clout, which is well-known across the world, and KSA's large humanitarian assistance. Something to be proud of indeed.

 

[Serpentine]

Do you think that we care? I could personally not care less as this will not change anything on the ground. Everyone already knows that the UN is a useless organization, that all countries who are at war or have been at war should be blacklisted as all of them have killed civilians and that wars are ugly.

Nor is KSA looking after its own interests like any regional power and influential country anything new. KSA is a innocent lamb compared to the Security Council Member States (just in recent times let alone historically) on this front as well as compared to numerous other MENA states.

Anyway Houthi's are to be blamed for most of the civilian casualties in Yemen. It's not KSA's problem that those terrorists foolishly though that they could conquer all of Yemen. Or that the Houthi's deliberately hide among civilians and use child soldiers on a large scale, which is something the same UN report has confirmed. Or that KSA has much greater firepower. They should not have messed with a much stronger party. Simple as that.

Besides Iranians, who are worshipping the Al-Assad regime and whose Mullah's are directly supporting that regime, which is responsible for 100 times more civilian casualties, are the last people on this planet to point fingers. Not that their barking is of any importance.

That's the point, you cared about UN report. People barely talked about that list frst, but after Saudi blackmail, everyone is talking about it now and got to understand what Saudis had done and why they had a hysteric reaction to that report, which showed they are unintentionally admitting their crimes.

About security council, I agree about that and its members, but you know, that's the rule of jungle and nations have just submitted to it, otherwise it wouldn't be that hard for 188 members of UN to throw decisions of 5 SC members into the trash can, but unfortunately that's not the case.

 

[Arabian Stallion]

That's the point, you cared about UN report. People barely talked about that list frst, but after Saudi blackmail, everyone is talking about it now and got to understand what Saudis had done and why they had a hysteric reaction to that report, which showed they are unintentionally admitting their crimes.

About security council, I agree about that and its members, but you know, that's the rule of jungle and nations have just submitted to it, otherwise it wouldn't be that hard for 188 members of UN to throw decisions of 5 SC members into the trash can, but unfortunately that's not the case.

I don't see any difference and empty nonsense rumors about fatwas (that people in KSA do not even take seriously), OIC stopping cooperation with the UN (what?!) and other such nonsense claims are only swallowed by gullible people, I am afraid. However I do believe that KSA and allies put pressure on the UN and that is fully understandable and something a leadership of any country is supposed to do in order to guard its own interests. It would be absurd if that did not take place especially if there are disagreements about the nature of this report as is the case.

Anyway you do realize that all parties in Yemen (Houthi's, Ali Abdullah Saleh, AQAP) have been blacklisted for ages right? If KSA and the Arab coalition became blacklisted eventually this would change nothing as this "blacklisting" nonsense makes no sense at all as the purpose of wars is essentially what the UN is arguing against. This report does not put the Houthi's in any positive light at all. In fact in a much worse light. The only difference is that KSA has a air force and KSA/Arab coalition soldiers and allies not hiding among civilians or using child soldiers etc.

Hence my claim of every party in every war where civilians die, should be blacklisted. However the reality in the UN has shown repeatedly that the strongest powers have carte blanche when they engage in wars in this regard (civilian casualties). Hence why, among many other things, nobody takes the UN seriously.

If, as I wrote initially in this thread and the other thread, rules were equal for every member state and followed equally, KSA and other states/parties who have been "blacklisted", might have taken those rules much more seriously.

 

[alarabi]

Well done Saudi Arabia and its Arab allies. I can't understand why Arab countries and Turkey didn't ask for serious reform in this corrupted organization yet? Why the hell Britain the forgotten kingdom still have a mush bigger rule in the UN than Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Brazil and any other Muslim country? the 5 shity countries need to blacklist their countries and NATO first then they can question other countries' military actions.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

UNSC should be reconsitiuted

Nothing will happen. If India is selected do you think India will vote with global goodness in mind? No. But with domestic politics and our relationship with said countries. Already India "wastes" votes on most of the bodies by abstaining.

More weightage for P5 country votes can be introduced. In a way if there is a global outage over any one incident, it can make sure one country cannot block the passage for appropriate response.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Nothing will happen. If India is selected do you think India will vote with global goodness in mind? No. But with domestic politics and our relationship with said countries. Already India "wastes" votes on most of the bodies by abstaining.

Exactly.

The P5 is just an old boys club, each one looking after their own interest. It was never meant to secure world peace, only the interests of the permanent five.

The only way to change the system is for the rest of the countries in the UN to leave and form a new organization. Since none of the P5 would want to give up their own power willingly.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Exactly.

The P5 is just an old boys club, each one looking after their own interest. It was never meant to secure world peace, only the interests of the permanent five.

The only way to change the system is for the rest of the countries in the UN to leave and form a new organization. Since none of the P5 would want to give up their own power willingly.

And there is another problem with the suggestion of how an reformed UN or a new body should be. Remember how US threatened UNESCO (or some UN org) after it recognised Palestine as a member by cutting off the funds for the body?

The US at UN cares only after its domestic interests, and if push comes to shove it will leave UN, if it loses an vote under an reformed UN. So will China or might India in the future. The P5 now solely looks at their interests, looking at the way they handle Syria, each country supporting their own factions in blatant violations of their own UN resolution.

Acc to u, how an reformed UN should be? Of course there should be an security council. We cannot give a same vote to a country like US and Vanuatu. There should be an difference, right. ?

 

[Strigon]

You cant feel sympathy for UN when it succumbs to blackmail and threats. Come out in the open and name those allys. Be an organization with some meaning and purpose for once instead of wasting everyone's time.

 

[OrionHunter]

He also said there was a real risk of “clerics in Riyadh meeting to issue a fatwa against the UN, declaring it anti-Muslim

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/breaking-un-we-were-‘blackmailed’-into-removing-saudi-arabia-from-blacklist-after-just-a-week.434248/#ixzz4B8w5PALc

Lol! Now a fatwa against the UN declaring it anti Muslim?? Jeeez!!!

 

[Takaavar]

So the UN has suddenly become so clean for you Iranians. I see hypocrisy at its best.

Hypocrisy is that when after decades UN has uttered some words against certain states, you stupid Arabs suddenly come here and talk about how UN is useless and so forth.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Well done Saudi Arabia and its Arab allies. I can't understand why Arab countries and Turkey didn't ask for serious reform in this corrupted organization yet? Why the hell Britain the forgotten kingdom still have a mush bigger rule in the UN than Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Brazil and any other Muslim country? the 5 shity countries need to blacklist their countries and NATO first then they can question other countries' military actions.

LOL, that's because none of the countries you mentioned have real power.

Whether we like it or not, the UNSC's P5 (Big Five) are the most powerful and influential countries on earth.

Oh, and by the way, that so-called "forgotten kingdom" (i.e. Britain) is still being relied upon by the likes of "mighty" Saudi Arabia. And you're speaking their language, in case you forgot lol.

 

[Madali]

Interesting article about ban list moon's terrible history of backtracking,
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-yemen-children-ban-ki-moon.html

 

[500]

Iranians complaining about Saudi bombings are like Jack the Riper complaining about someone slapping his son.

Here is Sana in Yemen after terrible Saudi bombings:

Here is Daraya after Iranian bombings:

 

[T-Rex]

Well done Saudi Arabia and its Arab allies. I can't understand why Arab countries and Turkey didn't ask for serious reform in this corrupted organization yet? Why the hell Britain the forgotten kingdom still have a mush bigger rule in the UN than Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Brazil and any other Muslim country? the 5 shity countries need to blacklist their countries and NATO first then they can question other countries' military actions.

The rest of the world is now realises what a great mistake it is to accept the UN as it is. This organization legitimizes aggression by the permanent members of the Security Council. Today it is Iran, tomorrow it will be Turkey or KSA. Nobody is safe under the umbrella of a mafia type organization.