Breaking: Pakistani and Indian troops trade heavy fire on LoC

[neem456]

US using Indian proxy to punish Pakistan for UN vote most likely

India itself voted against US, Mr. Genius.

 

[Rank]

Fairly or not, nobody believes Pakistani avowals of innocence on the LoC anymore.

and you want entire world belives on

9/11
WMD Iraq
Vietnam
Syria
Iran
and make Jeru as a capital of IsraHell
?

 

[Aegon]

lol UN has become an irrelevant body long back. No body is gonna take UN seriously unless new reforms are inorporated. There is no place for UN observers in kashmir as it is a bilateral issue.And yes it has been signed on paper by the head of your state. Now you cant go back on that saying that you were badly beaten in the war and you signed the agreement to get back surrendered 93000 soldiers/POW's who were working as labourers in india. Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) is a bilateral issue between pak and india. The day pak hands back indian territory , all issues will be resolved.

 

[Sinnerman108]

lol you will never learn a lesson your long hearten ally just betrayed you in UN general assembly and yet you are here to defend India. Man I have to salute your obedience or consider that you are using a false flag on your profile. Any ways it is freedom of speech anyone can state his opinion.

Wrong,
Their ally told them first that they need to keep making money of the middle east.
Thus they are going to keep playing double, so far as to the extent of harmless voting and diplomatic shakeups.

 

[war&peace]

Your image ain't gonna' change that's for sure. Terrorists gonna terrorize.

Then mate stop being a terrorist.

 

[Solomon2]

There are way more UN observers on our side of the LoC than there on the Indian side where their activites are very restricted.

Total strength of UNMOGIP is 44 UNNMOs and 70-74 civilian support personnel. That's not very many for such a long border. I think there are just ten field stations. UNMOGIP itself points out the ruggedness of the terrain.

Plus, I think Pakistan should consider pushing for the declassification of these observer reports, as I believe these are currently restricted.

 

[Trango Towers]

Fairly or not, nobody believes Pakistani avowals of innocence on the LoC anymore.

No one in Pakistan cares.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Total strength of UNMOGIP is 44 UNNMOs and 70-74 civilian support personnel. That's not very many for such a long border. I think there are just ten field stations. UNMOGIP itself points out the ruggedness of the terrain.

Plus, I think Pakistan should consider pushing for the declassification of these observer reports, as I believe these are currently restricted.

Please find the source for your last claim.

Pakistan has been calling for more observer involvement and activity within the region while India has been doing the opposite.

 

[Solomon2]

Please find the source for your last claim.

Me: when I went on their website and clicked the link for reports it came up as an error. Maybe you'll have better luck?

Pakistan has been calling for more observer involvement and activity within the region while India has been doing the opposite.

So invite more observers in without preconditions and let the Indians stew in their own juice.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Me: when I went on their website and clicked the link for reports it came up as an error. Maybe you'll have better luck?

So invite more observers in without preconditions and let the Indians stew in their own juice.

It's not that easy, the process takes a long time and requires negotiations by both sides. UN has already begun pulling military observers despite Pakistan's objection, they are not too interested in Kashmir.

 

[Solomon2]

It's not that easy, the process takes a long time and requires negotiations by both sides. UN has already begun pulling military observers despite Pakistan's objection, they are not too interested in Kashmir.

Links, please.

 

[undercover JIX]

Links, please.

Pakistan is always inviting UN observers and they are free to visit, its India who do not allow UN observers and International media in Kashmir.

it will be better if you encourage India to be responsible state and let International media and UN observers visit.

 

[HAIDER]

Green light from Indian new ally .

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Fairly or not, nobody believes Pakistani avowals of innocence on the LoC anymore.

When the US Establishment has brainwashed large sections of the public by spoon feeding them distorted exaggerations about Pakistan being the primary reason behind US failure in Afghanistan, of course people aren't going to believe Pakistan's version of events.

But Pakistan needs to earn its good name, for it has stained itself the past fifty-two years.

I don't see that as being enough any longer. Pakistan, since Musharraf, has made a huge amount of progress, as a country and society, against militants. However, the narrative propagated by the US and Afghanistan to excuse away their failure to show significantly more progress in Afghanistan, coupled with the burgeoning US-India relationship as a counter to China, means that Pakistan will continue to be painted, unfairly, in a poor light unless it turns itself into a complete US/India client State.