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Breaking News: Trump declares any Iranian Strike will mean WAR

MeRiKa: Kills top general of Iran/Hero of the Iranian people

Iran: MARK BARK AMRIKA MARK BARK AMRIKA:suicide:, People roaming in circles:chilli: & putting up red flags

Dont know much Persian but I read somewhere that the new interviewed general said that he would let god avenge AMRIKA. Folks aint shit gon happen.

LIKE IRAN WAS EVER GONNA DO SHIT TO THE BIG FAT DEVIL

actually the opposite he said God has allowed us to take revenge, when a Muslim dies by the hand of enemy, GOD has allowed us to take revenge
 
This forum is littered with nationalistic bluster, as is natural when facing external conflict.

However, there is a difference in being proud of your homeland (which you should be) and sounding utterly foolish from a military standpoint.

Russia and China will not defend Iran. Iran cannot remove the US, Israeli, and Saudi capability to completely destroy or reset the Iranian nuclear program. Iranian SAM sites emit radar, and will be destroyed as B-2s and more are in the air from US bases.

The bunkers that deterred war 10 years ago, are no longer immune from sustained strikes. That problem was solved.

https://taskandpurpose.com/stealth-bomber-tested-nuke

Don't forget Ironman and optimus prime, they'll single handily destroy the Iranian air defence sites etc. Come on dude, stop it with these fantasy stories. Where will these B-2s come from? will they teleport into Iran? You think Iran will just sit back and watch the B-2s? They know exactly where these assets are based, what do you think those 1000's of missiles that are ready to fire are for? The simple military fact is this, the US bases around Iran which the US will rely on in a conflict with Iran will be targeted with ease.
 
Don't forget Ironman and optimus prime, they'll single handily destroy the Iranian air defence sites etc. Come on dude, stop it with these fantasy stories. Where will these B-2s come from? will they teleport into Iran? You think Iran will just sit back and watch the B-2s? They know exactly where these assets are based, what do you think those 1000's of missiles that are ready to fire are for? The simple military fact is this, the US bases around Iran which the US will rely on in a conflict with Iran will be targeted with ease.

The US B-2 is based in the middle of the US mainland.
 
The US B-2 is based in the middle of the US mainland.

I was speaking generally. B-2s are also based in Diego Garcia if I am not mistaken. So you think these B-2 could go all the way to Iran completely undetected? Despite the fancy claims around B-2, the US would NEVER send it anywhere near a country like Iran with potent IADF without first seriously degrading its air defence. The issue the US has is the assets it would use in the SEAD missions are very vulnerable to an Iranian counter attack.

The US and Iran are not neighbors. The US will rely on the forces it can take to Iran's proximity. Is that enough to get the job done? maybe, maybe not. The point is however, those US forces will be hit HARD. Don't make any mistake about it. Both sides will suffer greatly. Only fools would deny that. This is why this move by the rabid orange was so foolish because Iran now has to respond. There is no alternative for them.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threat-target-iran-cultural-sites-sparks-backlash-185009822.html

Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump doubled down Sunday on a threat to attack Iranian cultural sites despite accusations that any such strike would amount to a war crime.

After his top diplomat, Mike Pompeo, had insisted that any military action would conform to international law, Trump said he would regard cultural sites as fair game if Iran resorted to deadly force against US targets.

"They’re allowed to kill our people, they're allowed to torture and maim our people, they’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people and we're not allowed to touch their cultural site? It doesn’t work that way," Trump told reporters.

"If they do anything there will be major retaliation."

His comments on his return from a break in Florida followed a welter of criticism over a Tweet on Saturday night in which he said sites which were "important to... Iranian culture" were on a list of 52 potential US targets.

Tehran's foreign minister had reacted to those initial comments by drawing parallels with the Islamic State group's destruction of the Middle East's cultural heritage.

And as Twitter was flooded with photos of revered Iranian landmarks in ancient cities such as Isfahan under the hashtag #IranianCulturalSites, leading US Democrats said the president would be in breach of international protocols if he made good on his threat.

"You are threatening to commit war crimes," Senator Elizabeth Warren, one of the top Democrats hoping to challenge Trump in November's election, wrote on Twitter.

"We are not at war with Iran. The American people do not want a war with Iran."

"Targeting civilians and cultural sites is what terrorists do. It's a war crime," added fellow Senator Chris Murphy.

In a flurry of interviews on the Sunday talkshows, Secretary of State Pompeo said the US would not hesitate to hit back hard against Iran's "kleptocratic regime" if it came under attack, but pledged that any action would be consistent with the rule of law.

Both sides have traded threats since a US drone strike in Iraq on Friday killed Qasem Soleimani -- one of the most important figures in the Iranian government.
 
I was speaking generally. B-2s are also based in Diego Garcia if I am not mistaken. So you think these B-2 could go all the way to Iran completely undetected? Despite the fancy claims around B-2, the US would NEVER send it anywhere near a country like Iran with potent IADF without first seriously degrading its air defence. The issue the US has is the assets it would use in the SEAD missions are very vulnerable to an Iranian counter attack.

The US and Iran are not neighbors. The US will rely on the forces it can take to Iran's proximity. Is that enough to get the job done? maybe, maybe not. The point is however, those US forces will be hit HARD. Don't make any mistake about it. Both sides will suffer greatly. Only fools would deny that. This is why this move by the rabid orange was so foolish because Iran now has to respond. There is no alternative for them.

The US would sustain casualties via Ghadir subs, the new 2000+km Soumar, and proxy forces against soft targets. Ignore any American who pretends 2020 Iran is 1991 or 2003 Iraq. They are either not American, or are of room-temperature IQ (F).

But the response would be the full might of sea, air, cyber, and Specops of a far superior force, against far more critical targets.

Again, Iran killing the CIA agent (contractor) was bad luck. They should have let the Hezbollah position strikes go relatively unacknowledged.

The attack on the US embassy was an absolute rare blunder by Quds" PMU puppets. If Benghazi never happened, "the indispensable one" would still be alive.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threat-target-iran-cultural-sites-sparks-backlash-185009822.html

Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump doubled down Sunday on a threat to attack Iranian cultural sites despite accusations that any such strike would amount to a war crime.

After his top diplomat, Mike Pompeo, had insisted that any military action would conform to international law, Trump said he would regard cultural sites as fair game if Iran resorted to deadly force against US targets.

"They’re allowed to kill our people, they're allowed to torture and maim our people, they’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people and we're not allowed to touch their cultural site? It doesn’t work that way," Trump told reporters.

"If they do anything there will be major retaliation."

His comments on his return from a break in Florida followed a welter of criticism over a Tweet on Saturday night in which he said sites which were "important to... Iranian culture" were on a list of 52 potential US targets.

Tehran's foreign minister had reacted to those initial comments by drawing parallels with the Islamic State group's destruction of the Middle East's cultural heritage.

And as Twitter was flooded with photos of revered Iranian landmarks in ancient cities such as Isfahan under the hashtag #IranianCulturalSites, leading US Democrats said the president would be in breach of international protocols if he made good on his threat.

"You are threatening to commit war crimes," Senator Elizabeth Warren, one of the top Democrats hoping to challenge Trump in November's election, wrote on Twitter.

"We are not at war with Iran. The American people do not want a war with Iran."

"Targeting civilians and cultural sites is what terrorists do. It's a war crime," added fellow Senator Chris Murphy.

In a flurry of interviews on the Sunday talkshows, Secretary of State Pompeo said the US would not hesitate to hit back hard against Iran's "kleptocratic regime" if it came under attack, but pledged that any action would be consistent with the rule of law.

Both sides have traded threats since a US drone strike in Iraq on Friday killed Qasem Soleimani -- one of the most important figures in the Iranian government.
We will take down cultural sites in response. Their cultural sites are the monuments, statues and sculptures of racist, slave owner confederate generals and soldiers, The true face of America.
 
STOP TALKING BIG.... ITS EASY TO USE DRONE / FIGHTER DROP BOMB
FIGHT FACE TO FACE MANLY GUNS AND KNIFE NO ARTILLERY NO AIR FORCE NO NAVY

USA IS CHICKEN WHY NOT THEY SEND SPECIAL FORCE INSIDE IRAN TO TAKE HIM DOWN i sound bad but come on
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...2a8e00-2f7d-11ea-be79-83e793dbcaef_story.html

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo woke on Tuesday to a 4 a.m. call alerting him to a large protest outside the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

As demonstrators began hurling molotov cocktails at the heavily fortified compound, Pompeo grappled with the new security threat to his diplomats in phone calls starting at 4:30 a.m. with Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Matthew Tueller, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, according to U.S. officials.

The secretary also spoke to President Trump multiple times every day last week, culminating in Trump’s decision to approve the killing of Iran’s top military commander, Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, at the urging of Pompeo and Vice President Pence, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

Pompeo had lost a similar high-stakes deliberation last summer when Trump declined to retaliate militarily against Iran after it downed a U.S. surveillance drone, an outcome that left Pompeo “morose,” according to one U.S. official. But recent changes to Trump’s national security team and the whims of a president anxious about being viewed as hesitant in the face of Iranian aggression created an opening for Pompeo to press for the kind of action he had been advocating.

The greenlighting of the airstrike near Baghdad airport represents a bureaucratic victory for Pompeo, but it also carries multiple serious risks: another protracted regional war in the Middle East; retaliatory assassinations of U.S. personnel stationed around the world; an interruption in the battle against the Islamic State; the closure of diplomatic pathways to containing Iran’s nuclear program; and a major backlash in Iraq, whose parliament voted on Sunday to expel all U.S. troops from the country.

Iran says it is suspending all commitments to 2015 Iran nuclear deal

For Pompeo, whose political ambitions are a source of constant speculation, the death of U.S. diplomats would be particularly damaging given his unyielding criticisms of former secretary of state Hillary Clinton following the killing of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and other American personnel in Benghazi in 2012.

But none of those considerations stopped Pompeo from pushing for the targeted strike, U.S. officials said, underscoring a fixation on Iran that spans 10 years of government service from Congress to the CIA to the State Department.

“We took a bad guy off the battlefield. We made the right decision,” Pompeo told CNN. “I’m proud of the effort that President Trump undertook.”

Pompeo first spoke with Trump about killing Soleimani months ago, said a senior U.S. official, but neither the president nor Pentagon officials were willing to countenance such an operation.

For more than a year, defense officials warned that the administration’s campaign of economic sanctions against Iran had increased tensions with Tehran, requiring a bigger and bigger share of military resources in the Middle East when many at the Pentagon wanted to redeploy their firepower to East Asia.

Trump, too, sought to draw down from the Middle East as he promised from the opening days of his presidential campaign. But that mind-set shifted on Dec. 27 when 30 rockets hit a joint U.S.-Iraqi base outside Kirkuk, killing an American civilian contractor and injuring service members.

On Dec. 29, Pompeo, Esper and Milley traveled to the president’s private club in Florida, where the two defense officials presented possible responses to Iranian aggression, including the option of killing Soleimani, senior U.S. officials said.

Trump’s decision to target Soleimani came as a surprise and a shock to some officials briefed on his decision, given the Pentagon’s long-standing concerns about escalation and the president’s aversion to using military force against Iran.

One significant factor was the “lockstep” coordination for the operation between Pompeo and Esper, both graduates in the same class at the U.S. Military Academy, who deliberated ahead of the briefing with Trump, senior U.S. officials said. Pence also endorsed the decision, but he did not attend the meeting in Florida.

“Taking out Soleimani would not have happened under [former secretary of defense Jim] Mattis,” said a senior administration official who argued that the Mattis Pentagon was risk-averse. “Mattis was opposed to all of this. It’s not a hit on Mattis, it’s just his predisposition. Milley and Esper are different. Now you’ve got a cohesive national security team and you’ve got a secretary of state and defense secretary who’ve known each other their whole adult lives.”

Mattis declined to comment.

In the days since the strike, Pompeo has become the voice of the administration on the matter, speaking to allies and making the public case for the operation. Trump chose Pompeo to appear on all of the Sunday news shows because he “sticks to the line” and “never gives an inch,” an administration official said.

But critics inside and outside the administration have questioned Pompeo’s justification for the strike based on his claims that “dozens if not hundreds” of American lives were at risk.

Trump faces Iran crisis with fewer experienced advisers and strained relations with allies

Lawmakers left classified briefings with U.S. intelligence officials on Friday saying they heard nothing to suggest that the threat posed by the proxy forces guided by Soleimani had changed substantially in recent months.

When repeatedly pressed on Sunday about the imminent nature of the threats, whether it was days or weeks away, or whether they had been foiled by the U.S. airstrike, Pompeo dismissed the questions.

“If you’re an American in the region, days and weeks — this is not something that’s relevant,” Pompeo told CNN.

Some defense officials said Pompeo’s claims of an imminent and direct threat were overstated, and they would prefer that he make the case based on the killing of the American contractor and previous Iranian provocations.

Critics have also questioned how an imminent attack would be foiled by killing Soleimani, who would not have carried out the strike himself.

“If the attack was going to take place when Soleimani was alive, it is difficult to comprehend why it wouldn’t take place now that he is dead,” said Robert Malley, the president of the International Crisis Group and a former Obama administration official.

Following the strike, Pompeo has held back-to-back phone calls with his counterparts around the globe but has received a chilly reception from European allies, many of whom fear that the attack puts their embassies in Iran and Iraq in jeopardy and has now eliminated the chance to keep a lid on Iran’s nuclear program.

“We have woken up to a more dangerous world,” said France’s Europe minister, Amelie de Montchalin.

Two European diplomats familiar with the calls said Pompeo expected European leaders to champion the U.S. strike publicly even though they were never consulted on the decision.

“The U.S. has not helped the Iran situation, and now they want everyone to cheerlead this,” one diplomat said.

“Our position over the past few years has been about defending the JCPOA,” said the diplomat, referring to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

On Sunday, Iran announced that it was suspending all limits of the nuclear deal, including on uranium enrichment, research and development, and enlarging its stockpile of nuclear fuel. Britain, France and Germany, as well as Russia and China, were original signatories of that deal with the United States and Iran, and all opposed Trump’s decision to withdraw from the pact.

“No one trusts what Trump will do next, so it’s hard to get behind this,” said the European diplomat.

Pompeo has slapped back at U.S. allies, saying “the Brits, the French, the Germans all need to understand that what we did — what the Americans did — saved lives in Europe as well,” he told Fox News.

Israel has stood out in emphatically cheering the Soleimani operation, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praising Trump for “acting swiftly, forcefully and decisively.”

“Israel stands with the United States in its just struggle for peace, security and self-defense,” he said.

Since his time as CIA director, Pompeo has forged a friendship with Yossi Cohen, the director of the Israeli intelligence service Mossad, said a person familiar with their meetings. The men have spoken about the threat posed by Iran to both Israel and the United States. In a prescient interview in October, Cohen said Soleimani “knows perfectly well that his elimination is not impossible.”

Though Democrats have greeted the strike with skepticism, Republican leaders, who have long viewed Pompeo as a reassuring voice in the administration, uniformly praised the decision as the eradication of a terrorist who directed the killing of U.S. soldiers in Iraq after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

“Soleimani made it his life’s work to take the Iranian revolutionary call for death to America and death to Israel and turn them into action,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said.

A critical moment for Pompeo is nearing as he faces growing questions about a potential Senate run, though some GOP insiders say that decision seems to have stalled. Pompeo has kept in touch with Ward Baker, a political consultant who would probably lead the operation, and others in McConnell’s orbit, about a bid. But Pompeo hasn’t committed one way or the other, people familiar with the conversations said.

Some people close to the secretary say he has mixed feelings about becoming a relatively junior senator from Kansas after leading the State Department and CIA, but there is little doubt in Pompeo’s home state that he could win.

At every step of his government career, Pompeo has tried to stake out a maximalist position on Iran that has made him popular among two critical pro-Israel constituencies in Republican politics: conservative Jewish donors and Christian evangelicals.

After Trump tapped Pompeo to lead the CIA, Pompeo quickly set up an Iran Mission Center at the agency to focus intelligence-gathering efforts and operations, elevating Iran’s importance as an intelligence target.

At the State Department, he is a voracious consumer of diplomatic notes and reporting on Iran, and he places the country far above other geopolitical and economic hot spots in the world.


“If it’s about Iran, he will read it,” said one diplomat, referring to the massive flow of paper that crosses Pompeo’s desk. “If it’s not, good luck.”
 
Won’t be surprised if Pompeo gets fired.

Trump has shown a tendency to fire those who make him look bad.

Pompeo will be the perfect scapegoat If this Solemani strike ends up hurting trump more than helping.
 
Is the funeral for Qasem Soleimani in Tehran, the largest funeral in the whole world? It seems larger than Khomeini.
 
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The US just conducted a massive elephant walk of 52 F-35s to demonstrate the full readiness of the F-35 fleet in the event of a crisis. It's probably not a coincidence this took place now with the tensions with Iran.


 

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