BREAKING NEWS: problem solved in 3rd flag meeting

[F86 Saber]

So it was PA which went in and not FC?

In Baluchistan, FC and Army work in tandem depending on scale of conflict.

 

[H!TchHiker]

You lost a major and foot soldiers and installations.

We built a gate..kindly just google the pics ...
That is what your ANA voew not to allow

 

[Arsalan]

You use fighter jets and we get excuse to buy them very rapidly; just do it and give us an excuse to justify our AAF's needs

Have you thought about who will fly those for you or do you plan to rent that to the "coalition" forces as well?
Just like your motherland?

 

[Manidabest]

Last 3 border clashes since last year tells everything.

i guess u r living in a fools paradise .... afghan ana bette rthan over Pakistan Army?? nooooo wayyyy maaannnnn not even in centuriesss...

 

[F86 Saber]

You use fighter jets and we get excuse to buy them very rapidly; just do it and give us an excuse to justify our AAF's needs

Please buy some F-16 block 52, when your pilots default to Pakistan, we will put them to good use.

 

[Hellfire]

Hein.....
You saying this?
After advocating how "sir jee kal" strikes and hot pursuits do not have pictorial evidence!! Remember those good old days mate?

Welcome back by the way. Hope you have been doing well.

Yup.

I learnt the tricks of PDF - ask for photographic proof of military operations.

Bloody spoiled my fun.

Not back. I hover once in a while. Few good members still around. so it is hi n check in.

Congrats btw .... now you are a bonded labour I hear???

May almighty shower the choicest blessings on you both.

Regards

 

[Arsalan]

This thread has exposed the level of thinking of many senior members here, keep it up guys

No, good and equipped air force needs a long time to be developed.

Yup, like our "senior member", "Sher Malang"

BTW, i asked a genuine question. What exactly are the plans for that air force you mentioned?? Is there an academy training fighter pilots? training for what aircraft? Will the force be made from Afghan nationals or will that too be run by foreigners to get some actual results and liberate Afghanistan from the Taliban hordes. What are the future plans? Do you think that Afghan funds are best utilized in equipping an air force rather than provide a basic level infrastructure? May be even equip and train some Afghans to form a real Afghani military force to combat the Taliban as the US may pull out of Afghanistan some day and we all want to avoid 5hit hitting the fan at that time.

It was and still remains a simple straight forward question and if you have any knowledge about this subject please do share the information with us all.

 

[Vapnope]

Insurgency is hard to control with 100% accuracy, no country is able to do it.

Not an answer to what i asked. 100% accuracy? Last time i checked they seized more territory.
If the afghan border police is that capable i expect ANA to be at par with marine corp.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Sher Malang is funny and foolish just like his ignorant Generals. Time waste to reply.

 

[Sher Malang]

Not an answer to what i asked. 100% accuracy? Last time i checked they seized more territory.
If the afghan border police is that capable i expect ANA to be at par with marine corp.

The circumstances within Afghanistan is not just militarized there are many other internal and external factors that undermines the capability of the ground soldiers.

ِDon't mind but for your FC even the Afghan local police is well ready to combat.

 

[Arsalan]

Yup.

I learnt the tricks of PDF - ask for photographic proof of military operations.

I hope you are not learning traits of that other forum we used to hear about back in the day, that wont suit you. At least from what little i know or think about you, YOU WONT LIKE THAT. Have not been a regular there but it wont take more than a couple of visits to realize that the place is nothing but a 5hit hole with nothing but anti-Pakistan and anti-Muslim posts and threads, cheered on by the public, place where otherwise "sane" members can be seen calling for bomb attacks in schools and bazars of Pakistan because Kulbushan YAdev is being sentenced to death.

anyway, that is a debate for some other day i guess.

Bloody spoiled my fun.

You know me, Always at your service.

Not back. I hover once in a while. Few good members still around. so it is hi n check in.

That is great man. It is good to see you around.
Look forward for further interaction.

Congrats btw .... now you are a bonded labour I hear???

May almighty shower the choicest blessings on you both.

Yeah,
Thanks a lot mate.

 

[Sher Malang]

Yup, like our "senior member", "Sher Malang"

BTW, i asked a genuine question. What exactly are the plans for that air force you mentioned?? Is there an academy training fighter pilots? training for what aircraft? Will the force be made from Afghan nationals or will that too be run by foreigners to get some actual results and liberate Afghanistan from the Taliban hordes. What are the future plans? Do you think that Afghan funds are best utilized in equipping an air force rather than provide a basic level infrastructure? May be even equip and train some Afghans to form a real Afghani military force to combat the Taliban as the US may pull out of Afghanistan some day and we all want to avoid 5hit hitting the fan at that time.

It was and still remains a simple straight forward question and if you have any knowledge about this subject please do share the information with us all.

Your assumptions are not needed nor developing air forces are profession of both of us, stay on topic consultant.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

There is only one permanent solution to this ,
Build Fence , Dig a dam hell type Trench and Mine the border and add AMGs(remote control) posts with night Vision and Ground surveillance radars . Also add some CCTV and video recoding systems to our soldiers so they can recorded what really happened.
And increase the number of check posts . We also need 24/7 UCAVs patrolling (CH-3 , 4 , 5 or Winglong). Send all Afganis back home.
It will take time and money but much better then losing civilians and servicemen to this sh!t.
Closed , properly secure and monitored borders are need of the hour . We will safe Pakistan from terrorists , smuggling , ANA attacks etc and same benefits for Afghnis .
We lost 12 and almost 50 injured that's a dam big number and Afganis did it knowingly , They know very well what they were doing , Just check the different amo that they were using in the videos they posted by them self , Its just not sudden or driven by situation .

Let them stay on there side , and we will live happily on our side .

 

[IceCold]

What problem solved. Who will be held responsible for the lives of Pakistanis which were lost or is it that their lives dont matter? Shame on Pakistani authorities both civilian and military for not doing enough. Making statements of killing 50s which was rejected their and than does not cut it.

 

[Arsalan]

Your assumptions are not needed nor developing air forces are profession of both of us, stay on topic consultant.

What assumptions? You were talking about an Afghan Air force i just asked and requested you to share if you have some more information about it. I am not making any assumptions rather asked a question i was interested in thinking you may know about that air force.
Why so pissed? you could have easily said that "I do not know". End of story. Anyway.

What problem solved. Who will be held responsible for the lives of Pakistanis which were lost or is it that their lives don't matter? Shame on Pakistani authorities both civilian and military for not doing enough. Making statements of killing 50s which was rejected their and than does not cut it.

There were KIDS killed in the attack. I understand that with millions of lives lost to the Soviets first and then to the Americans along with the dog fights of Taliban and Northern Alliance and what not, Afghans are somewhat unemotional toward death, even if that is of innocent kids. However it matters a lot to us. I hope now that the matter have been resolved by force and the culprits dead or thwarted, the issues is taken up diplomatically as well. Even though i doubt that that the official Afghanistan government exerts any control whatsoever out side Kabul but still we should bring the problem to there attention and ask them to make sure to avoid such incidents in future and also look into the event. Plus the border should be sealed.

Not related to this event, we should send back the refugees to Afghanistan. We took them some 3 decades ago since there was a war there but since that time they have never stopped fighting and i do not see them doing so for next 30 either so for how long can we carry that burden of millions of uneducated unskilled people living in our country? It is about time they are sent back. I am quite confident that it wont create any humanitarian crisis since the American-Afghan officials of government claim to be on the right track of progress and thus they can surely handle there own at least. (I said claimed not because i doubt them but because there is actually not much coming out from there and if you ask some of there members they are just pissed off for god knows what)