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Breaking News! Bangladesh China signed a contract worth $ 1 billion For BAF

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An airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) system is an airborne radar picket system designed to detect aircraft, ships and vehicles at long ranges and perform command and control of the battlespace in an air engagement by directing fighter and attack aircraft strikes. AEW&C units are also used to carry out surveillance, including over ground targets...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_early_warning_and_control

Do you have any idea of the performance of even AESA over the horizon w.r.t ground targets and clutter? Tell me the approximate SN ratios of both regimes if you have. Relevant cross country ground target monitoring is laughable, even BD is not that small.
 
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Do you have any idea of the performance of even AESA over the horizon w.r.t ground targets and clutter? Tell me the approximate SN ratios of both regimes if you have. Relevant cross country ground target monitoring is laughable, even BD is not that small.
In 1963, the USAF asked for proposals for an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) to replace its EC-121 Warning Stars, which had served in the airborne early warning role for over a decade.[3] The new aircraft would take advantage of improvements in radar technology and in computer aided radar data analysis and data reduction. These developments allowed airborne radars to "look down", detect the movement of low-flying aircraft (see Look-down/shoot-down), and discriminate, even over land, target aircraft's movements—previously this had been impossible, due to the inability to discriminate an aircraft's track from ground clutter.[4] Contracts were issued to Boeing, Douglas, and Lockheed, the latter being eliminated in July 1966. In 1967, a parallel program was put into place to develop the radar, with Westinghouse Electric and the Hughes Aircraft being asked to compete in producing the radar system. In 1968, it was referred to as Overland Radar Technology (ORT) during development tests on the modified EC-121Q.[5][6] The Westinghouse radar antenna was going to be used by whichever company won the radar competition, since Westinghouse had pioneered in the design of high-power RF phase-shifters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-3_Sentry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-3_Sentry
Very old news.. now I leave it to you to think about what can be achieved with new technologies..
 
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You said enemy troop (not aircraft) movement. Whats the generally accepted definition of troops? They fly in the air?
You are as usual trying to derail a China-centered thread by finding fault in every line, full stop, colon and semicolon.
 
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the Y20 will be build brand new so 160 million USD for it sound a good price
but the Kj200 is just 80 milliions its based on Y8 so is it going to be brand new or we will buy off the selves
I think used kj200 ? :/
 
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Even its used, the fuselage is like brand new.

This is the first AWACS BAF gonna induct, it's of historical significance.

Do anyone have CG of J10b in BAF's colour?

i was looking at the price its cheap 80 million
 
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China and Bangladesh have signed a contract for the supply of aviation equipment worth $ 1 billion.

According to the user network "Twitter" East Pendulum, between Bangladesh and China reportedly signed a contract worth $ 1 billion. To supply 16 J-10B fighter, seven K-8W combat-training aircraft , a Y-20 military transport plane (the first known export contract - bmpd), one aircraft KJ-200 AEW and other armaments.
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source: http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2643443.html
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1 billion? Thats cheap!
Beshi taka bachatese era,Noakhailla hoye geche naki? :D
 
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In 1963, the USAF asked for proposals for an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) to replace its EC-121 Warning Stars, which had served in the airborne early warning role for over a decade.[3] The new aircraft would take advantage of improvements in radar technology and in computer aided radar data analysis and data reduction. These developments allowed airborne radars to "look down", detect the movement of low-flying aircraft (see Look-down/shoot-down), and discriminate, even over land, target aircraft's movements—previously this had been impossible, due to the inability to discriminate an aircraft's track from ground clutter.[4] Contracts were issued to Boeing, Douglas, and Lockheed, the latter being eliminated in July 1966. In 1967, a parallel program was put into place to develop the radar, with Westinghouse Electric and the Hughes Aircraft being asked to compete in producing the radar system. In 1968, it was referred to as Overland Radar Technology (ORT) during development tests on the modified EC-121Q.[5][6] The Westinghouse radar antenna was going to be used by whichever company won the radar competition, since Westinghouse had pioneered in the design of high-power RF phase-shifters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-3_Sentry
Very old news.. now I leave it to you to think about what can be achieved with new technologies..

Again this is talking about whats directly below you or at least within the horizon space. I worked on SAR radars for couple years at Raytheon. I know the SNR issues past the horizon (which is really what my issue is with looking past into other countries groundspace as claimed here)....for both AESA and non AESA.

There are already difficulties that crop up for air threats past the horizon, so we are expected to believe ground threats can be mapped and monitored with no issue in that regime...especially by just one AWAC loitering?

You can't find the fundamental conversation of this on wikipedia I am afraid. You have to know the subject much more deeply than that.

I have only really talked about it at some depth with @Signalian and whomever else was in that conversation (will have to dig it out if ppl interested) . This particular subforum (looking by those rushing to give your wiki-sourced post a thumbs up) does not have the minimum quality required for serious conversation.
 
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as some are saying 1billion USD for it the planes
so for the training weapons spare parts etc.. will cost another 1 billion or less USD
 
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the Y20 will be build brand new so 160 million USD for it sound a good price
but the Kj200 is just 80 milliions its based on Y8 so is it going to be brand new or we will buy off the selves

Y20 is based on the Ilyushin IL-76. They one-upped the Russians. The engines are the same, but they changed the nose and tail sections (more modernized) and heavily modified and strengthened the wing-roots box and added modern main and nose wheel arrangements (three two-wheeler bogies instead of two unusual four-wheeler bogies on each side like in IL-76, nose wheels now number two instead of four). Looks similar to the C-17 at a fraction of the cost. see image below, the Y 20 is in the middle.
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two four-wheeler bogies on each main undercarriage side in IL-76
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See here about 3:30,

four-wheeler bogie on nose undercarriage in IL-76
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Y20 undercarriage
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On the Russian side, the IL-76 was changed to IL- 476, (a new version) as well. The nose and tail is the same, but the new engines were borrowed from the IL-96 airliner which are newer Aviadvigatel PS-90A's and are way quieter with a lot less fuel burn. The wings are also a brand new design with much better reinforcement. see image below, the inboard engine is the new PS-90A.

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Here's a story on the IL-476...

Russia’s IL-476

UAC’s releases refer to IL-76MD-90A aircraft, and the 2 designations can be used interchangeably. The IL-476 has a number of similarities to the new civil IL-76TD-90VD, with quieter and more efficient Aviadvigatel (Perm) PS-90A-76 engines, modern digital avionics and navigation suites, plus a modernized wing design that includes a modified fuel system, reinforced landing gear, and a reinforced body for military missions. Payload has reportedly increased to around 52t/ 57.3 tons, with a range of about 5,000 km fully loaded.

Compared to previous IL-76 aircraft, the IL-476 reportedly offers an 18% boost to range, a 12% improvement in fuel consumption, better performance in hot temperatures and high altitudes, and a 10.6% improvement in cargo load. It also reportedly complies with international noise and emission standards, which affects the routes it can be certified to fly.

This level of performance places them well above competitors like the 35t+ capacity Airbus A400M turboprop, but below the more expensive Boeing C-17’s 77.5t capacity. On the other hand, the C-17’s production line is expected to shut down within a few years, leaving the global medium-heavy market to the IL-476, Airbus A400M, AN-70, and China’s new Y-20.

In August 2011, RIA Novosti reported
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that future buys are expected to bring the IL-476’s Russian orders to about 100 planes over time, with another 50 planes expected as exports.

In the past, Russian IL-76 prices have even allowed them to compete with medium airlifters like the C-130. Russia’s problem has been their reputation for poor reliability, and poor service. So far, Russian officials have acknowledged IL-476 talks with India and China. Both countries already use the IL-76 family, but India has just begun supplementing its fleet with Boeing’s C-17s, and China has just introduced its own Y-20.
 
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