Breaking - LCA observed doing double spin, vertical loop in 18 and Horizontal loop in 20 seconds .

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[Maarkhoor]

You keep quoting opinion pieces while I quote our Air Chief Marshal.



Anyone who believes this crap,is an idiot of the highest order.

Your air chief openly in a press conference share his concerns over Tejas. let me post the video just wait a little.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

if that is the case. Then fear for the day when BJP govt. orders gao mutra as A2A missile.

aa gaya aukaat pe ...

 

[gslv mk3]

Taking on from the CAG report, numerous media reports have suggested that the LCA's development cost has ballooned 25-fold, from the initially sanctioned Rs 560 crore to the current budget of Rs 14,047 crore. Both figures are incorrect. This newspaper's detailed analysis of the LCA budget (February 22, 2011, "When a sword arm is worth it") quoted ADA chief PS Subramanyam who clarified that Rs 560 crore was not the budget for the entire Tejas programme, but merely for "feasibility studies and project definition", which also included creation of the infrastructure needed for the new fighter.

The infusion of funds for actual design, development and building of prototypes only began in 1993, with the funds allocated under the heading of "full scale engineering development".

Equally misunderstood is the figure of Rs 14,047, which includes the cost of developing both the IAF and naval LCA, covering both the Mark I version as well as Mark II. The air force Tejas Mark Ihas so far cost Rs 7,490 crore, and is within its budget of Rs 7,965 crore.

For that amount, tiny compared to the billions that get sucked into developing fighters abroad, ADA says it has developed not just the LCA (and built 16-17 flying prototypes) but also an aerospace ecosystem - DRDO laboratories, private industry, academic institutions, and test facilities like the National Flight Testing Centre - that would allow India to build advanced fighters in the future.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Exclusive - Modi pushes "obsolete" made-in-India plane on reluctant military
India's government has turned down the military's request to expand the acquisition of 36 fighter planes from Dassault Aviation SA to plug vital gaps, officials said, nudging it to accept an indigenous combat plane 32 years in the making.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, is a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars.

The push for India's struggling Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) also comes at a time when the air force is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within military circles.

Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said its overriding goal is to cut off the military's addiction to foreign arms which has made it the world's top importer.

The air force wanted the government to clear an additional 44 Rafale medium multirole aircraft on top of the 36 Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements.

But a defence ministry official said that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the air force there weren't enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenous Tejas-Mark 1A.

"The IAF (air force) needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints," the defence official said.

"The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category."

India's air force says it requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a "two-front collusive threat" from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, parliament's defence committee said in a report in April, citing a presentation by a top air force officer.

With the drawdown of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the air force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.

Cleared by the government in 1983, the Indian LCA designed by the government's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994.

Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world's most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine.

Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016.

"In January this year, they had given one LCA ... which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are," said an air force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.

Arch-rival Pakistan in the meantime has turned to China to help close the gap with the Indian Air Force, jointly collaborating in the production of the JF-17 Thunder light fighter. The plan is to induct 250 of these planes in the Pakistan air force.



SAFETY CONCERNS

An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA programme identified 53 "shortfalls" in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn't as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety.

Retired Air Marshal M. Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defence Staff, said the LCA was obsolete.

"It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today's war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges."

He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with.

"We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind," the head of the air force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.

But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO's aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems.

"Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues," he said.

State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the air force's demands, he said.

"We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other - at blaming it all on Indian production."

Dassault declined any comment on the government's decision to cap the Rafale fleet.

A source close to Sweden's Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India's decision to try to develop its domestic military base.

"There's still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella," he said. "Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?"

Exclusive - Modi pushes obsolete made-in-India plane on reluctant military| Reuters

Why is government forcing LCA down Indian Air Force's throat?
The IAF has itself to blame for its predicament.
Why is government forcing LCA down Indian Air Force's throat?

This is what you resort to doing when you have no arguments left- posting irrelevent articles written by those with dubious motives? It's not exactly the way you win a debate.

 

[Maarkhoor]

This is what you resort to doing when you have no arguments left- posting irrelevent articles written by those with dubious motives? It's not exactly the way you win a debate.

No Sir i am providing you my arguments with well researched articles.

 

[gslv mk3]

No Sir i am providing you my arguments with well researched articles.

Yes,well researched articles by some random researchers...

 

[Abingdonboy]

No Sir i am providing you my arguments with well researched articles.

And what makes these sensationalist clickbait articles "well reserched"? Because they happen to support your rather narrow point of view? Posters here are providing well researched rebuttals but you are paying them no attention whatsoever.

The irony being that all of the above articles are from the Indian media, the same Indian media that Pakistani members like to mock and lambast for being sensationalist and ill-informed but the moment they say something you agree with you can't declare them "well researched" or "credble" enough.

 

[Stag112]

Ok here's the thing, we all know now beyond a doubt that this maarkhoor guy is a hopeless troll. I am going to make a request to all of us here to put him on ignore. Pls thank my post if you want to put him on ignore. If more than 5 of us agree, then we will all do it. OK?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Yes,well researched articles by some random researchers...

Quite better then many Indian posters here.

 

[knight11]

No Sir i am providing you my arguments with well researched articles.

Those are the articles of the journalist, who would write the article if paid, and in India import lobby is strong.

Don't post the articles written by some one else, if you have any doubt or anything to add write your idea.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Posting real pictures of yourself on a defense forum not a good idea, remove it before some one identify you.

 

[nair]

if that is the case. Then fear for the day when BJP govt. orders gao mutra as A2A missile.

Stop trolling on every thread, It doesn't feel good to rate

 

[Abingdonboy]

Quite better then many Indian posters here.

I don't think so, defence reporting is a well known weakspot for these clowns. I would say you are likely to find far more well informed opinions on defence matters on a DEFENCE forum than from some hack journalist from a tabloid media outlet.

 

[gslv mk3]

Quite better then many Indian posters here.

And even better than IAF Chief Air Marshal.

 

[Maarkhoor]

@I S I
Brother what happen why you mock religion even in response to a offensive post, It is not a good idea. Just report and move on, What you feel if they respond in the same fashion and because of you we all hurt. Pls edit your post.