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They lost 3 wars against israel even before 1979 (khomeini).

we should give then the dirty bomb to get rid of Israel once and for all.
Israel has one clear policy which makes them undefeatable: when they lose they will take everyone with them, so they will use a mass-nuke attack to wipe out islamic countries if they get cornered or are seeing a losing war.
That's why Israel should either be recognized, or if arabs/muslims don't want that because of feeling superior, they Israel should be pressured by financial power of those countries. Best option is to leave it to arabs, it's not a problem of non-arabs.
 
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Why you don't respond missile by missile?

You can't, there is no benefit in retaliation right now in that form. It will not deter Israel, it will not cause much damage for PIJ to unilaterally act right now. You won't even be able to seek revenge. Palestinians are not blood thirsty people, what they want is for Israel to be deterred, and any vengeance from us will be for them to share the suffering, and not try killing same number of people they kill from among us. If Hezbollah can't deter Israel there's no way PIJ or Hamas could. And they are having trouble accessing weapons currently.

The main reason however is it putting the interests of the people above a military response. The people want calm no matter what and what the reconciliation to go forward. And Hamas chief Sinwar is adamant about this going through and sees no return from it.

They lost 3 wars against israel even before 1979 (khomeini).


Israel has one clear policy which makes them undefeatable: when they lose they will take everyone with them, so they will use a mass-nuke attack to wipe out islamic countries if they get cornered or are seeing a losing war.
That's why Israel should either be recognized, or if arabs/muslims don't want that because of feeling superior, they Israel should be pressured by financial power of those countries. Best option is to leave it to arabs, it's not a problem of non-arabs.

If there is a time in the future where Arab's and Muslims are serious about containing Israel, they would have to blockade and besiege it. And do so from a position of power. This would force the US and some nations in Europe to have to make a choice that would change the whole world. Everyone in the region would need to have nothing to lose and it would a scary time for everyone in the world but that's what would have to be done. You would need an empire for that, nothing less.
 
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@EgyptianAmerican

1. What deals? Exactly. What Zionist investments? There are none.

2. Israel has Nukes

3. They still have the support of the U.S

4. The Arab league wasn't created for war. There is no Islamic NATO. There is a Islamic alliance against terrorism but no NATO.

5. No one is attacking Yemen. Saudi Arabia and a Arab Alliance are fighting terrorists called Houthis and supporting the legitimate Yemen government. You know... the same thing the PMU are doing for Iraq.

6. I Thought you were anti-Islam and Anti-Arab. Why are you acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum. Why do you care? What do you propose Arab states do? Just go against a country with Nukes that is backed by a superpower with a president that won't hesitate to drop a Nuke on any major threat.

7. If you care so much than why aren't you yelling at your countrymen to do something about It? Since that's all you've been complaining about the past 60+ years.
You remind of those Republican conservatives that constantly say there is a problem but offer no viable solution that doesn't result in a massacre.

1. Deals and business, only few examples: According to the Israel Export & International Cooperation Institute, there were 117 exporters to Egypt active in Israel in 2011 and exports of goods from Israel to Egypt grew by 60% in 2011, to $236 million. Egypt had a 20-year deal to export natural gas to Israel. The deal is unpopular with the Egyptian public and critics say Israel was paying below market price for the gas.

In 2013, Israel facilitated Jordanian trade with Iraq and Turkey by allowing goods to be transported by truck via the Jordan River Crossing near Beit She'an. The goods are taken to Haifa Port and shipped from there to Iraq and Turkey. In 2014, Israeli and Jordanian officials signed an initial agreement for a 15-year deal in which Israel will supply $500 million worth of gas to Jordan from the Tamar natural gas field in the Mediterranean

2. So what? Vietnamese also liberated themselves from USA, USA used mass destruction weapons such as agent orange and also had nukes.

3. American support: Arabs has as much and in some cases even more American support.

4. Military aspects of arab league:

The League's main goal is to "draw closer the relations between member States and co-ordinate collaboration between them, to safeguard their independence and sovereignty, and to consider in a general way the affairs and interests of the Arab countries"

The military history of the Arab League is closely linked to the Arab–Israeli conflict. The 1950 Arab Joint Security Pact set out provisions for collective security among the Arab states, but only in 1961 was the Joint Arab Command (JAC) proposed as a unified military command for the Arab League first by the Joint Defence Council, an institution of the Arab League
Before the JAC could take shape, a unanimous resolution was passed at the first Arab League summit (January 1964) establishing the United Arab Command (UAC), although the UAC's inactivity following the Samu Incident (1966) and during the Six-Day War (1967) signalled its de facto dissolution.

In March 2015, the Arab League General Secretary announced the establishment of a Joint Arab Force with the aim of counteracting extremism and other threats to the Arab States. The decision was reached while Operation Decisive Storm was intensifying in Yemen.

5. There is a coalition of arab countries attacking Yemen and it has caused one of the worst crisis in human history with people starving from hunger and diseases. No such coalition was formed against Israel after the 80s.

6. Indeed I don't care about Arabs or Islam from the point of view that they're arabs or muslims, I just see them as how I see any other human or country in the world: people and countries who my country could have ties, trade and agreement with. Also finding a solution for this rotten and polluting conflict would benefit whole humanity.

7. This is an arab problem (as arab governments themselves say), so arabs should work on it to find a solution. Iran or any other country such as Pakistan has no benefit in being involved in this conflict. You can easily start blockades, cut all economic or any other ties, refuse importing products which benefit Israel (except necessary products), putting the same mentioned pressure upon countries who are really close with Israel. This is the peaceful solution.

Else you can start a war and form a coalition like against Yemen or like in the past 3 wars against Israel. Combined arab armies have 50 times more weapons and soldiers than Israel.
 
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israelis have very love for having long life and they fear very much from death so if they are seriously and really threatened by nukes I think they will prefer surrendering rather than doing suicide
They lost 3 wars against israel even before 1979 (khomeini).


Israel has one clear policy which makes them undefeatable: when they lose they will take everyone with them, so they will use a mass-nuke attack to wipe out islamic countries if they get cornered or are seeing a losing war.
That's why Israel should either be recognized, or if arabs/muslims don't want that because of feeling superior, they Israel should be pressured by financial power of those countries. Best option is to leave it to arabs, it's not a problem of non-arabs.
 
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israelis have very love for having long life and they fear very much from death so if they are seriously and really threatened by nukes I think they will prefer surrendering rather than doing suicide
Israelis do love a comfortable life with quality, however them fearing death when they have to fight, that's just arab propaganda my friend, don't fall for it.
In the 3 wars they were in big minority, but fought and won bravely and with courage. They have also nukes and have second option to fire them from submarines after the destruction of Israel, so it will be mutual destruction for all.
 
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Israelis do love a comfortable life with quality, however them fearing death when they have to fight, that's just arab propaganda my friend, don't fall for it.
In the 3 wars they were in big minority, but fought and won bravely and with courage. They have also nukes and have second option to fire them from submarines after the destruction of Israel, so it will be mutual destruction for all.
they attacked Arabs after they are sure that arabs are too weak and have not good professional army and are involved in luxury and arabs have no nukes and no high quality weapons to threat israel but if arabs had nukes israel had no courage to attack them directly
 
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they attacked Arabs after they are sure that arabs are too weak and have not good professional army and are involved in luxury and arabs have no nukes and no high quality weapons to threat israel but if arabs had nukes israel had no courage to attack them directly
In 1948 a coalition arabs attacked Israel after Israels declaration of independence. The arabs were not living in Luxury, neither did the jews have nuclear weapons. Israel won.

How can an active coalition of 5/6 countries (backed by many more countries and volunteers) be seen as weaker when they have more weapons (including weapons which were in quality equal to Israeli weapons), more fighters?
The luxury story also doesnt count, most of the arabs were fiercely nationalist and religious during the wars against Israel and they were not from rich background. Nowadays only (p)gcc countries are rich, even in the 40s-80s they were not rich, during the times that Israel fought them.
 
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Israelis do love a comfortable life with quality, however them fearing death when they have to fight, that's just arab propaganda my friend, don't fall for it.
In the 3 wars they were in big minority, but fought and won bravely and with courage. They have also nukes and have second option to fire them from submarines after the destruction of Israel, so it will be mutual destruction for all.
Well, you know that it will lead to total mutual destruction for all.. So why are you asking the Arabs to go to war? Are you motivated by hatred, stupidity or insanity?
Usraelis fight for their Western quality of life handed to them and guaranteed through military might by the Western politics and weapons.. that is where their false bravery come from.. in 1973 in the first real equal war with the Arabs, they asked for a cease fire through the US and the UN, after a few days of war, they continued after that with the whole might of the US weapons and armaments and men pretending to hold dual citizenship, from all over the world..
Usrael has no nukes per se, they are guaranteed nukes under US nuclear Umbrella, like most NATO countries..

In 1948 a coalition arabs attacked Israel after Israels declaration of independence. The arabs were not living in Luxury, neither did the jews have nuclear weapons. Israel won.

How can an active coalition of 5/6 countries (backed by many more countries and volunteers) be seen as weaker when they have more weapons (including weapons which were in quality equal to Israeli weapons), more fighters?
The luxury story also doesnt count, most of the arabs were fiercely nationalist and religious during the wars against Israel and they were not from rich background. Nowadays only (p)gcc countries are rich, even in the 40s-80s they were not rich, during the times that Israel fought them.
Usrael "won"! with the help of British army (or was it the latter who won for them) who has killed 40 000 Palestinian armed men before handing Jerusalem keys to the Usraelis..
Don't pull things out your biased mind.. there were no Arab armies in 1948, let alone equal weapons to The European and US weapons of WW2, most Arab men left to fight were using WW1 carbines..
 
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Well, you know that it will lead to total mutual destruction for all.. So why are you asking the Arabs to go to war? Are you motivated by hatred, stupidity or insanity?
Usraelis fight for their Western quality of life handed to them and guaranteed through military might by the Western politics and weapons.. that is where their false bravery come from.. in 1973 in the first real equal war with the Arabs, they asked for a cease fire through the US and the UN, after a few days of war, they continued after that with the whole might of the US weapons and armaments and men pretending to hold dual citizenship, from all over the world..
Usrael has no nukes per se, they are guaranteed nukes under US nuclear Umbrella, like most NATO countries..


Usrael "won"! with the help of British army (or was it the latter who won for them) who has killed 40 000 Palestinian armed men before handing Jerusalem keys to the Usraelis..
Don't pull things out your biased mind.. there were no Arab armies in 1948, let alone equal weapons to The European and US weapons of WW2, most Arab men left to fight were using WW1 carbines..
I've clearly given sanctioning/pressuring Israel, cutting ties, and the same for their backers as first option. But it seems even that is to scary for arab puppets.

About the wars, as if Soviet backed arabs fought with sticks and stones against tiny israel. With such a big coalition a normal functioning army does not even need modern weapons to win, although Jordan had top quality American and western weapons and rest of arabs top quality Soviet weapons, not to speak about the large geography, troops, oil etc..
The Israeli fighters are jews and if they were not brave, what do you call the losing side (arabs) then?
 
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I've clearly given sanctioning/pressuring Israel, cutting ties, and the same for their backers as first option. But it seems even that is to scary for arab puppets.

About the wars, as if Soviet backed arabs fought with sticks and stones against tiny israel. With such a big coalition a normal functioning army does not even need modern weapons to win, although Jordan had top quality American and western weapons and rest of arabs top quality Soviet weapons, not to speak about the large geography, troops, oil etc..
The Israeli fighters are jews and if they were not brave, what do you call the losing side (arabs) then?
Now you are jumping all wars up to 1973, there was no Russian backing to counter the US before that..are you lost in time or totally confused?
When the Arabs had quality weapons in 1973 they won the war hands up.. even a mouse is brave if cornered, that was the Usraeli soldiers situation.. the Arabs forced them to fight men to men both in Egypt and Syria, just to show them how brave they were.. in words, not on the ground, where most were crying.... you are comparing Arabs too much with the US and NATO, the real occupiers of Palestine.. Jews by themselves don't stand a chance in a war with Arabs.. so make your thoughts right and stop calling every Arab on the Forum a puppet.. your talk betray your set of mind as a Usraeli puppet, most likely a false flag..
 
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You can't, there is no benefit in retaliation right now in that form. It will not deter Israel, it will not cause much damage for PIJ to unilaterally act right now. You won't even be able to seek revenge. Palestinians are not blood thirsty people, what they want is for Israel to be deterred, and any vengeance from us will be for them to share the suffering, and not try killing same number of people they kill from among us. If Hezbollah can't deter Israel there's no way PIJ or Hamas could. And they are having trouble accessing weapons currently.

The main reason however is it putting the interests of the people above a military response. The people want calm no matter what and what the reconciliation to go forward. And Hamas chief Sinwar is adamant about this going through and sees no return from it.



If there is a time in the future where Arab's and Muslims are serious about containing Israel, they would have to blockade and besiege it. And do so from a position of power. This would force the US and some nations in Europe to have to make a choice that would change the whole world. Everyone in the region would need to have nothing to lose and it would a scary time for everyone in the world but that's what would have to be done. You would need an empire for that, nothing less.
I neither want to see anyone whether Palestinians or people living in israel dead or killed nor I am blood thirsty person, actually it's not about being blood thirsty, how you describe defending yourself by responding to the aggressor as being blood thirsty? have ever peace talks worked on this regime? Arafat lost his life in this way. while you want peace they continue the settlement and get more of your lands ...
 
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israel was backed fully by u.s ,u.k and europe in 1948 and you know better than me that Muslims countries were hundred years back in technology from west at that time and also nuclear umbrella was provided by u.s
In 1948 a coalition arabs attacked Israel after Israels declaration of independence. The arabs were not living in Luxury, neither did the jews have nuclear weapons. Israel won.

How can an active coalition of 5/6 countries (backed by many more countries and volunteers) be seen as weaker when they have more weapons (including weapons which were in quality equal to Israeli weapons), more fighters?
The luxury story also doesnt count, most of the arabs were fiercely nationalist and religious during the wars against Israel and they were not from rich background. Nowadays only (p)gcc countries are rich, even in the 40s-80s they were not rich, during the times that Israel fought them.
 
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Now you are jumping all wars up to 1973, there was no Russian backing to counter the US before that..are you lost in time or totally confused?
When the Arabs had quality weapons in 1973 they won the war hands up.. even a mouse is brave if cornered, that was the Usraeli soldiers situation.. the Arabs forced them to fight men to men both in Egypt and Syria, just to show them how brave they were.. in words, not on the ground, where most were crying.... you are comparing Arabs too much with the US and NATO, the real occupiers of Palestine.. Jews by themselves don't stand a chance in a war with Arabs.. so make your thoughts right and stop calling every Arab on the Forum a puppet.. your talk betray your set of mind as a Usraeli puppet, most likely a false flag..
Arabs lost in 1973, Israel won, everyone know the result of that war. There was also no backing for Israel in 1948, Israelis bought some guns from Czechoslovakia and got money from jews outside of israel.

israel was backed fully by u.s ,u.k and europe in 1948 and you know better than me that Muslims countries were hundred years back in technology from west at that time and also nuclear umbrella was provided by u.s
If you're talking about weapons, I would like to have a source.
 
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