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BREAKING: IRAQ TO BUY JF-17 FIGHTER JETS FROM PAKISTAN IN MAJOR BILLION DOLLAR PLUS DEFENSE DEAL

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Fighter aircraft from Pakistan: Iraq fifth country to initiate deal for JF-17​

By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir
July 09, 2023



ISLAMABAD: Iraq has become the fifth country that initiated deal for purchasing JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft from Pakistan and concluded it successfully.
Pakistan has been jointly manufacturing the aircraft with China as Islamabad is also set to export its JF-17 Block III aircraft to Malaysia, Nigeria, Azerbaijan, and Myanmar. Sensing the Thunder’s might, several countries have shown interest in Pakistan’s pride. Earlier, Argentine had also studied the combat aircraft. The sources said the Iraqi government has approved an outlay of $664 million for the purchase of 12 JF-17 Thunder Block III fighter jets from Pakistan.
It was reported earlier that Iraq had signed a contract with Pakistani company to purchase an unspecified number of aircraft, believed to be JF-17 Block III. Iraqi Defence Minister Jumaa Inad has been quoted as saying, “We signed a contract with a Pakistani company to purchase aircraft.” The negotiations for the sale of the jets continued for more than two years. The defence deal was approved by governments of Pakistan and Iraq. The JF-17 Block III jets, which are the latest model of the successful JF-17 could be a welcome addition to the Iraqi Air Force. Iraq is interested in acquiring JF-17 Thunder jets to use them against drones since it has been facing constant threat of their use by its adversaries. The purchase of aircraft from Pakistan would be the biggest defence deal between the two countries in about forty years, the sources said. Nigeria has already inducted JF-17 Thunder aircraft in its air force and they are providing services in a satisfactory manner, the sources added.

That is a poor quality article to use as a reference. Malaysia is not buying the JF17 and the foreplay between Azerbijan and Pakistan "shows no end" towards moving to the "main act .."

Only Nigeria and Myanmar have purchased the plane...
 
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Pakistan will make more profit providing training and supporting the servicing of the aircraft as well as munition sales.

Hopefully if/when Iraq goes for a follow in order, it can work with the PAC and CAC to build out a WS-19 equipped version with a dedicated IRST and other features to make it a competitive A2A platform against most platforms in the region.
Hi,

Even if there is miniscule profit---then is there some benefit---?

Well the assembly line is working---machines are turning---workers are employed---technicians are upto date on manufacturing---another sales is made---which means that we are getting closer to the next sale---.

It will be a major major success of Pak Kamra to consummate this deal---.
 
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Iraq’s Air Force modernisation accelerates with new aircraft

New aircraft include Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation.
By Harry McNeil

1000w_q95-7.jpg
An Iraqi Air Force crew member with Squadron 24 waits to assist with a transport mission at Ali Al Salem Air Base, Kuwait, Dec. 13, 2021. Source: Defense Visual Information Distribution Service
With a defence budget of $5.2bn in 2023 and a total defence spending of $27.3bn in the forecast period, according to GlobalData’s “Iraq’s Defence Market 2023-2028” report, Iraq aims to enhance its defence capabilities amidst regional instability and the resurgence of ISIS.


Iraq is making strides in modernising its air force as part of its military reform program.

Air procurement is the priority​

Iraq is prioritising the acquisition of modern military equipment to strengthen its defence capabilities and address regional instability and the growing threat of ISIS.

In line with this objective, Iraq has recently finalised a contract with Dassault Aviation to purchase 14 units of Rafale aircraft. The $3.2bn allocation for this contract aims to replace the country’s ageing F-16IQ jets, which have proven challenging to maintain.
Notably, the Iraqi government has proposed paying for the new aircraft through oil supplies rather than cash, highlighting the country’s unique approach to financing its defence acquisitions.
In addition to the Rafale deal, Iraq has also expressed interest in procuring 24 AT-6C Texan II Aircraft from Pakistan’s Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and 12 units of JF-17 Block 3 from China’s Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group.
Pakistan has inducted the Chinese-built J-10C fighter jets. The J-10C is a medium-weight, all-weather jet that can be equipped with fourth-generation air-to-air missiles such as the short-range PL-10 and the beyond-visual-range PL-15.
The estimated contract allocation for the Texan II aircraft is $693.8m, while the JF-17 Block 3 purchase is approved for $664m. These acquisitions will further bolster Iraq’s air force capabilities, allowing for enhanced operational effectiveness and a more robust defence posture.

A diplomatic initiative​

Iraq has established diplomatic relations with Western nations such as the United States and South Korea to support its modernisation efforts. These strategic partnerships have facilitated the signing of multiple contracts for military equipment, enabling Iraq to access technologies and expertise.
While foreign investors may encounter challenges in the Iraqi defence sector, including corruption, customs regulations, and high taxes, specific segments are expected to offer lucrative opportunities.
The military fixed-wing, missile and missile defence systems, and electronic warfare sectors hold potential for foreign investors seeking to engage in the Iraqi defence market.
The investment in modern military equipment reflects Iraq’s commitment to national security and its determination to safeguard the interests of its people and contribute to stability in the region.
 
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Hi,

Even if there is miniscule profit---then is there some benefit---?

Well the assembly line is working---machines are turning---workers are employed---technicians are upto date on manufacturing---another sales is made---which means that we are getting closer to the next sale---.

It will be a major major success of Pak Kamra to consummate this deal---.
1. More sales open up the possibility for it to acquire the “battle tested” seal of approval, as is likely through the sale of 16 to Myanmar and 3 to Nigeria, with both nations using it against rebels.


Should there be an air battle, and the Azeris have the JF-17 and use it to shoot down an Armenian Su-30, it will be vindication and a boost to the image of the JF-17 and any product the PAC/CAC make, the way the Bayraktar has created a positive image of the Turkish defense industry.

2. The sale of three to Nigeria with well supported after sales services opens up the possibility of follow on sales. This creates the impression that it is a reliable and durable product (not just the plane but the services, training, and munitions) to be counted upon, and can be customized adequately to the customers needs such that they don’t need to seek a different product to meet their expanded needs.

3. Even if sold for a marginal or negligible profit, your right it keeps the factory open and the workers employed. With the WS-19 around the corner, more foreign sales open up the possibility a foreign customer could even fund the development of a future variant. The trickle down benefits, that the PAF won’t have to fund the development itself, and that per units costs of upgrading some or all of the fleet to a “Block 4” variant won’t be as much as it would have been otherwise.

4. A Block 4 variant, perhaps matching the capabilities of the Gripen NG, would become more and more tempting to those air forces that aren’t allied with the western block, not have to face stealth fighters and need to replace their aging fleets. They would need a multi-role platform to deal with the regional rival(s). These nations could include Argentina or perhaps some African nations.
 
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If true then this is the type of incoming dollars we need to strengthen our economy , currency and even the foreign hearsay. Not some IMF loan that only hurts us in the long run.
 
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90% of the aircraft's components, including the Russian engine, are of Chinese-origin. Pakistan is the only country that manufactures...

how is the sell percentage being shared?
Feeling a little jealous! Pakistan share is over 50% it is not a kit assembly that India has been doing since the 50s and has learnt nothing

Our profit will only be marginal since we only assemble it from Chinese Provided kit
Time to indigenize JF 17 in the same way HIT did with Alkhalid.
Even though AK was co-produced with China but HIT can now independently manufacture AK without any Chinese help.

I hope at least the metal used for JF 17's body is produced in Pakistan.
It is not a kit manufacture
 
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Feeling a little jealous! Pakistan share is over 50% it is not a kit assembly that India has been doing since the 50s and has learnt nothing


It is not a kit manufacture
It is the same as su30mki, which India is doing..... Manufacturing the parts, doesn't mean that you developed it.

This is called TOT.... Pakistan has rights about 50-50 share because it is developed for Pakistan airforce as per their requirements, Pakistan funded the program by paying dollars...

But regarding the parts, Pakistan is just consumer here, paid the cash and getting the complete parts which developed by the seller as per the need and later TOT..... It doesn't make that PAC became a good player for developing anything

Pakistan PAC capability will truly measure once they will design any aircraft including trainer. Will do the wing and other r&d testing to develop a aircraft.... Till then, Pakistan will be depending on Chinese, USA, or even new player alike turkey.
 
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It is the same as su30mki, which India is doing..... Manufacturing the parts, doesn't mean that you developed it.

This is called TOT.... Pakistan has rights about 50-50 share because it is developed for Pakistan airforce as per their requirements, Pakistan funded the program by paying dollars...

But regarding the parts, Pakistan is just consumer here, paid the cash and getting the complete parts which developed by the seller as per the need and later TOT..... It doesn't make that PAC became a good player for developing anything

Pakistan PAC capability will truly measure once they will design any aircraft including trainer. Will do the wing and other r&d testing to develop a aircraft.... Till then, Pakistan will be depending on Chinese, USA, or even new player alike turkey.

Oh that’s cool. Except no one is buying the su30s though
 
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It is the same as su30mki, which India is doing..... Manufacturing the parts, doesn't mean that you developed it.

This is called TOT.... Pakistan has rights about 50-50 share because it is developed for Pakistan airforce as per their requirements, Pakistan funded the program by paying dollars...

But regarding the parts, Pakistan is just consumer here, paid the cash and getting the complete parts which developed by the seller as per the need and later TOT..... It doesn't make that PAC became a good player for developing anything

Pakistan PAC capability will truly measure once they will design any aircraft including trainer. Will do the wing and other r&d testing to develop a aircraft.... Till then, Pakistan will be depending on Chinese, USA, or even new player alike turkey.
You're in delusional world we manufacturing 66% part at PAC every major defense site saying we are manufacturing jf17 at home

We bought cnc and other specialized machines from China to manufacture 66% fuselage of JF17 components at home

Your mental disorder has no cure I'm sorry to say that dude
 
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You're in delusional world we manufacturing 66% part at PAC every major defense site saying we are manufacturing jf17 at home

We bought cnc and other specialized machines from China to manufacture 66% fuselage of JF17 components at home

Your mental disorder has no cure I'm sorry to say that dude
You're in delusional world we manufacturing 66% part at PAC every major defense site saying we are manufacturing jf17 at home

We bought cnc and other specialized machines from China to manufacture 66% fuselage of JF17 components at home

Your mental disorder has no cure I'm sorry to say that dude

More than 70℅ parts of Su30 mki, manufacturing in India...

Should I say or claim that su 30mki is indian and HAL developed or developed with Russia after partnership?

Really, most people don't know difference between manufacturing OEM parts, and doing r&d than develop a part after series of testing.
 
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It is the same as su30mki, which India is doing..... Manufacturing the parts, doesn't mean that you developed it.

This is called TOT.... Pakistan has rights about 50-50 share because it is developed for Pakistan airforce as per their requirements, Pakistan funded the program by paying dollars...

But regarding the parts, Pakistan is just consumer here, paid the cash and getting the complete parts which developed by the seller as per the need and later TOT..... It doesn't make that PAC became a good player for developing anything

Pakistan PAC capability will truly measure once they will design any aircraft including trainer. Will do the wing and other r&d testing to develop a aircraft.... Till then, Pakistan will be depending on Chinese, USA, or even new player alike turkey.
I can see your engine is on full afterburner ever since this news of sales of JF-17 broke out.
Chill man..... it is not confirmed that. No official contract has been signed yet.
And what if tejas is a complete failure... don't worry. I firmly believe someday India will also produce a trustworthy flying jet. You people have all the resources.
 
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what if tejas is a complete failure... don't worry. I firmly believe someday India will also produce a trustworthy flying jet
Tejas is not a failure
It's evolving into a monster.
Its going to be a test bed for AMCA technologies like loyal wingman technologies and powerful avionics
PAC should keep an eye on Tejas evolution and follow the foot-steps.
 
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Iraq’s Air Force modernisation accelerates with new aircraft

New aircraft include Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation.
By Harry McNeil

1000w_q95-7.jpg
An Iraqi Air Force crew member with Squadron 24 waits to assist with a transport mission at Ali Al Salem Air Base, Kuwait, Dec. 13, 2021. Source: Defense Visual Information Distribution Service
With a defence budget of $5.2bn in 2023 and a total defence spending of $27.3bn in the forecast period, according to GlobalData’s “Iraq’s Defence Market 2023-2028” report, Iraq aims to enhance its defence capabilities amidst regional instability and the resurgence of ISIS.


Iraq is making strides in modernising its air force as part of its military reform program.

Air procurement is the priority​

Iraq is prioritising the acquisition of modern military equipment to strengthen its defence capabilities and address regional instability and the growing threat of ISIS.

In line with this objective, Iraq has recently finalised a contract with Dassault Aviation to purchase 14 units of Rafale aircraft. The $3.2bn allocation for this contract aims to replace the country’s ageing F-16IQ jets, which have proven challenging to maintain.
Notably, the Iraqi government has proposed paying for the new aircraft through oil supplies rather than cash, highlighting the country’s unique approach to financing its defence acquisitions.
In addition to the Rafale deal, Iraq has also expressed interest in procuring 24 AT-6C Texan II Aircraft from Pakistan’s Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and 12 units of JF-17 Block 3 from China’s Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group.
Pakistan has inducted the Chinese-built J-10C fighter jets. The J-10C is a medium-weight, all-weather jet that can be equipped with fourth-generation air-to-air missiles such as the short-range PL-10 and the beyond-visual-range PL-15.
The estimated contract allocation for the Texan II aircraft is $693.8m, while the JF-17 Block 3 purchase is approved for $664m. These acquisitions will further bolster Iraq’s air force capabilities, allowing for enhanced operational effectiveness and a more robust defence posture.

A diplomatic initiative​

Iraq has established diplomatic relations with Western nations such as the United States and South Korea to support its modernisation efforts. These strategic partnerships have facilitated the signing of multiple contracts for military equipment, enabling Iraq to access technologies and expertise.
While foreign investors may encounter challenges in the Iraqi defence sector, including corruption, customs regulations, and high taxes, specific segments are expected to offer lucrative opportunities.
The military fixed-wing, missile and missile defence systems, and electronic warfare sectors hold potential for foreign investors seeking to engage in the Iraqi defence market.
The investment in modern military equipment reflects Iraq’s commitment to national security and its determination to safeguard the interests of its people and contribute to stability in the region.
Lots of errors by the writer
 
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