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Doval-Yang meeting calls for acceleration of boundary talks
SOURCE : THE HINDU

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Within days of a substantial dialogue at the foreign ministers level, India’s National Security adviser, Ajit Doval and China’s State Councilor, Yang Jiechi, have met in Munich-their talks focusing on ways to resolve the Sino-Indian border issue-ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to China in May.

The meeting in Munich precedes the visit to Beijing by Mr.Doval-India’s Special Representative for the boundary issue ahead of Mr. Modi’s visit. Mr. Yang is Mr.Doval’s counterpart in the boundary talks.

“The positive interaction between China and India is increasing and their momentum of cooperation is improving,” said Mr. Yang, as quoted by Xinhua.

Both officials appeared to work on formulations that could lead to the resolution of the Sino-Indian border row- an impediment to a possible surge in New Delhi-Beijing economic partnership and the convergence of a strategic agenda in the Asia-Pacific.

The Xinhua report said that Mr. Yang proposed the two countries should “push forward negotiations over boundaries, and to effectively maintain the peace and safety of border areas” in tune with respecting and looking after each other’s concerns.

According to the Chinese interpretation, Mr. Doval observed that India “expected to intensify coordination with China and keep pushing forward the process of negotiations over boundaries”.

Apart from calling for an acceleration of boundary talks, the Chinese State Councilor also advocated that the frequency of high-level interaction between the two countries should be stepped up.

“Both sides should seize the opportunities, remove the disturbances, and strengthen the positive trend of China-India relations,” Mr. Yang observed.

The two officials chose their words carefully to suggest that their worldviews were acquiring a common vocabulary. They focused on their status as the fastest growing developing countries as well as a common Asia heritage.

Mr. Doval said that Sino-Indian ties had improved after the formation of the new government, opening up a number of “mutually beneficial cooperation opportunities”.

During the Munich meeting, Mr. Yang pointed out that cooperation “in culture, railway and industrial parks construction should be broadened”. The Chinese official was reiterating remarks by Chinese President Xi Jinping, who had told visiting External Affairs Minister, Sushma Swaraj, that, “China and India should continue their cooperation in various fields, including industrial parks and the railway project, to benefit the 2.5 billion people of the two countries and the global economy.”

The Chinese official stressed that India should work with China in promoting “multipolarism” – echoing a pet theme, chiefly advocated by Beijing and Moscow that the end of a unipolar era led by the United States after the collapse of the Soviet Union, would establish a more sustainable international system.

India had endorsed this formulation in the joint communiqué issued at the end of a foreign ministerial meeting in Beijing of the Russia-India-China (RIC) group. The Joint statement had asserted that the “international community should remain committed to the democratisation of the international relations and multi-polarity”.
 
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What can we expect ? Do we really going to solve our borders problems with some sort of solutions . Or China is trying to do the same as it did with Nehru in 1960-1962 back stabbing . Hope there won't be any questions about decreased patrol or less troops deployment . China should accept Mc Mohan line and call it a day of new friendship. I know am going too much into it but . It's a fair deal . Same like 19^47 . Nothing will change in India unless this happens . Or entire negotiations are just waste of time for another few years for India to modernise its military might against Chinese.
 
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Doval-Yang meeting calls for acceleration of boundary talks | idrw.org

What can we expect ? Do we really going to solve our borders problems with some sort of solutions . Or China is trying to do the same as it did with Nehru in 1960-1962 back stabbing . Hope there won't be any questions about decreased patrol or less troops deployment . China should accept Mc Mohan line and call it a day of new friendship. I know am going too much into it but . It's a fair deal . Same like 19^47 . Nothing will change in India unless this happens . Or entire negotiations are just waste of time for another few years for India to modernise its military might against Chinese.

You do realize that China didn't back stab us do you ? read some non biased history.
 
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You do realize that China didn't back stab us do you ? read some non biased history.
WE had multi lateral Chini Hindi bhai bhai before they surprised nehru by invading into Aksai Chin. What will you call it ?
 
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You do realize that China didn't back stab us do you ? read some non biased history.

Nope, they pretty much planed and executed an attack on us when our political leadership least expected. All the time talking about "mutual respect".
 
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We actually was stupid enough not to go after China when they invaded Tibet.
Nehru thought it will create more trouble for Tibetiens.
 
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When did we go after them ? Tibet was invaded on 1950.

Edited . It was other way around. Not going after was wrong

Nehru wrote letter to Sardar Patel that going after China will leads to more trouble for Tibetiens. How stupid was that ? Invasion helped Tibetiens . Blunder .
 
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China recognises power and only power. It salami slices bits of Asia as it power grows and India's response should be to discuss the practicalities of MANAGING the dispute, not its settlement.

It cannot be settled because it goes against the most fundamental tenet of Chinas foreign policy which will not change until it meets a superior force.
 
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Doval-Yang meeting calls for acceleration of boundary talks | idrw.org

What can we expect ? Do we really going to solve our borders problems with some sort of solutions . Or China is trying to do the same as it did with Nehru in 1960-1962 back stabbing . Hope there won't be any questions about decreased patrol or less troops deployment . China should accept Mc Mohan line and call it a day of new friendship. I know am going too much into it but . It's a fair deal . Same like 19^47 . Nothing will change in India unless this happens . Or entire negotiations are just waste of time for another few years for India to modernise its military might against Chinese.
There has to be a give and take solution. You can't expect a one sided approach.

A solution of the Sino-Indian border question is not a mere technical matter but rather a political and a strategic issue whose ramifications go well beyond the bilateral field. If the Sino-Indian boundary question was merely a technical matter, it would have been resolved a long time ago

However, it is not as if there are no solutions possible, but there has to be a will, a reason and an inclination to settle the dispute.
 
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China recognises power and only power. It salami slices bits of Asia as it power grows and India's response should be to discuss the practicalities of MANAGING the dispute, not its settlement.

It cannot be settled because it goes against the most fundamental tenet of Chinas foreign policy which will not change until it meets a superior force.

Right you are Sir, they will keep up with the talks and will plan for attacks on the sly - using their proxy of course.
 
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There has to be a give and take solution. You can't expect a one sided approach.

A solution of the Sino-Indian border question is not a mere technical matter but rather a political and a strategic issue whose ramifications go well beyond the bilateral field. If the Sino-Indian boundary question was merely a technical matter, it would have been resolved a long time ago

However, it is not as if there are no solutions possible, but there has to be a will, a reason and an inclination to settle the dispute.
First of all there so reasonable explanation for Chinese occupied part in Azad Kashmir or Aksai Chin or Tibet. We made it clear when Xi Jinping came to India. We explained why 1000 years of chinese history is not true as they claim.
But as you said we need to give and take . For that matter nothing to give to Chinese. They always denied any discussion on border talk deliberately. Anything less than going back to Mc Mohan line is not acceptable. This is our government's stand . So what we can give ? We can give in on Tibetiens Issue . And allowing Americans to use our ports and military instalation. Chinese has everything to loss if US Navy Can enters our IOR . This the bargain chip we have created cleverly by the new government .

Read the articles. It says both can respect each other internal security issues . No way this borders talks are going on the basis of giving up Aksai Chin and Kashmir .

We are not ruled by Nehru anymore . Who was fit for nothing . Tibet could had been Indian Territory way back in 1950 if we had taken side with Soviet Union . Nonsense non alignment led to loss of Aksai Chin and Azad Kashmir
 
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