Brazilian Mirage 2000 facing junkyard

[HAIDER]

Brazil plans to withdraw from service 12 Mirage 2000C/B fighters operating with the 1st Air Defense Group, currently providing the mainstay of the country’s air-defense force. The jet fighters also known as ‘Jaguars’ are operating from Annapolis, about 140 km from the capital Brasilia. These fighters were acquired from French Air Force surplus in 2005 for $74 millions to replace older Mirage IIIBR fighter jets. France delivered three batches of the fighters in 2006, 2007 and 2008. At the time, the life expectancy of these refurbished fighters should last for 16-18 years (till 2025), however, after merely six years most of the small fleet exhausted its remaining operational life and required a temporary life extension plan to keep them flying until the next generation F-X2 was due.

The two years passed, but the decision on F-X2 is still pending and now, even the extra life of these Mirages has been depleted, with the jets reaching the absolute end of their operational life, and no further investment is in sight for further modernization. Since Brazil acquired the old variant (B/C) of Mirage 2000 it was not well equipped, and carried relatively obsolete weapons – Matra 530D and Magic II missiles. The radar did not provide Beyond Visual Range capability while navigation equipment was far from state of the art. The political changes in Brasilia, with the new president and defense minister at the helm means that the jets, bought by the former regime, will not be missed.

To fill the gap the Brazilian Air Force is planning to replace those jets with 6-12 modernized F-5Es obtained from the Royal Jordanian Air Force. Embraer is upgrading these fighters under a comprehensive modernization plan that initially included older Brazilian Air Force F-5E/Fs. Sofar 46 planes have gone through the upgrade and 11 more are planned to enter the process. While the F-5E has been upgraded with modern avionics and weaponry, its radar falls short of the radar carried by the Mirage 2000.

The Brazilian Air Force has examined several options for acquiring modernized second-hand fighters, but rejected those proposals, as it is about to decide on the $4.5–6 billion F-X2 acquisition (which has been dragged over more than a decade). For the F-X2 Brazil is considering three Generation 4.5 fighters – The US made Boeing Super-Hornet, Swedish developed SAAB Gripen NG and Dassault Rafale from France. More editorial reserved for subscribers
Defense Update:Brazilian Air Force to Retire Mirage 2000 by Year's End - Defense Update:

 

[atlssa]

This is wrong!

Brazil officially retired its Mirage 2000 fleet on December 31, 2013. For the time being, until 2016, the Brazilian Air Force is using 12 F-5EM from its fleet for the same role.

Effective on 2016, 12 Gripen C/D (10 single-seat+2 two-seat) from Swedish Air Force will be delivered to operate from Anapolis Air Force Base while the recent acquired 36 new Gripen E/F is not delivered (first deliveries expected for late 2018).

 

[EyanKhan]

Brazil already chose the gripens.
the choice was narrowed down to the hornet and gripens , then the NSA spying on merkel incident happened after which Brazilian PM who was already not a fan of US took action and chose the Gripens.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

hmmm... on one jumped the gun yet. so heres my chance, The PAF should buy these PLANES. They will be a great addition!

 

[Imran Khan]

they deserve it high maintain cost and so much money waste better keep them in graveyard

 

[slapshot]

hmmm... on one jumped the gun yet. so heres my chance, The PAF should buy these PLANES. They will be a great addition!

 

[BATMAN]

they deserve it high maintain cost and so much money waste better keep them in graveyard

High maintenance costs are must with French equipment.

hmmm... on one jumped the gun yet. so heres my chance, The PAF should buy these PLANES. They will be a great addition!

They may not justify the cost required to ship them to Pakistan.

 

[Imran Khan]

High maintenance costs are must with French equipment.



They may not justify the cost required to ship them to Pakistan.

do you know mirages avionics upgrade story in early70s?

 

[BATMAN]

do you know mirages avionics upgrade story in early70s?

No Sir.... I only know a bit about rose upgrades.
If i'm not mistaken, we bought mirages in early 70's....... why upgrade?

 

[Imran Khan]

No Sir.... I only know a bit about rose upgrades.
If i'm not mistaken, we bought mirages in early 70's....... why upgrade?

they send new mirages and every few weeks one of avionics suit box stop work . they asked customers to send it back to France for upgrade it time to time and charge hell money and waste of time and efforts . letter on Pakistani engineer found it that it was batteries in that suit which expire after every few weeks . in fact french strictly prohibited customers to open any suit but our guy lose his temper once and opened it when PIA shipment late from France . letter on we asked china to make same batteries and never send back to France same we apply on UAE mirages when our teams reached there .

 

[atlssa]

Brazil already chose the gripens.
the choice was narrowed down to the hornet and gripens , then the NSA spying on merkel incident happened after which Brazilian PM who was already not a fan of US took action and chose the Gripens.

Its correct, with the only exception that we don't have a Prime Minister.
The President of Brazil is both head of state and head of government of the Federative Republic of Brazil.

 

[atlssa]

hmmm... on one jumped the gun yet. so heres my chance, The PAF should buy these PLANES. They will be a great addition!

Not really. They are way too expensive to upgrade. Remember that Dassault is charging India US$ 45 million just for the upgrade of each Mirage 2000 from Indian Air Force.
Forget about it!

In our case, the Mirage 2000 will be on permanent exhibition at the Brazilian Air Force Museum.

 

[godofwar]

Maybe PAF will bid for 'em

 

[Chronos]

Brazil already chose the gripens.
the choice was narrowed down to the hornet and gripens , then the NSA spying on merkel incident happened after which Brazilian PM who was already not a fan of US took action and chose the Gripens.

They got a badass police special operation force though.

 

[Nishan_101]

Brazil plans to withdraw from service 12 Mirage 2000C/B fighters operating with the 1st Air Defense Group, currently providing the mainstay of the country’s air-defense force. The jet fighters also known as ‘Jaguars’ are operating from Annapolis, about 140 km from the capital Brasilia. These fighters were acquired from French Air Force surplus in 2005 for $74 millions to replace older Mirage IIIBR fighter jets. France delivered three batches of the fighters in 2006, 2007 and 2008. At the time, the life expectancy of these refurbished fighters should last for 16-18 years (till 2025), however, after merely six years most of the small fleet exhausted its remaining operational life and required a temporary life extension plan to keep them flying until the next generation F-X2 was due.

The two years passed, but the decision on F-X2 is still pending and now, even the extra life of these Mirages has been depleted, with the jets reaching the absolute end of their operational life, and no further investment is in sight for further modernization. Since Brazil acquired the old variant (B/C) of Mirage 2000 it was not well equipped, and carried relatively obsolete weapons – Matra 530D and Magic II missiles. The radar did not provide Beyond Visual Range capability while navigation equipment was far from state of the art. The political changes in Brasilia, with the new president and defense minister at the helm means that the jets, bought by the former regime, will not be missed.

To fill the gap the Brazilian Air Force is planning to replace those jets with 6-12 modernized F-5Es obtained from the Royal Jordanian Air Force. Embraer is upgrading these fighters under a comprehensive modernization plan that initially included older Brazilian Air Force F-5E/Fs. Sofar 46 planes have gone through the upgrade and 11 more are planned to enter the process. While the F-5E has been upgraded with modern avionics and weaponry, its radar falls short of the radar carried by the Mirage 2000.

The Brazilian Air Force has examined several options for acquiring modernized second-hand fighters, but rejected those proposals, as it is about to decide on the $4.5–6 billion F-X2 acquisition (which has been dragged over more than a decade). For the F-X2 Brazil is considering three Generation 4.5 fighters – The US made Boeing Super-Hornet, Swedish developed SAAB Gripen NG and Dassault Rafale from France. More editorial reserved for subscribers
Defense Update:Brazilian Air Force to Retire Mirage 2000 by Year's End - Defense Update:

Why not Brazil and other countries of South America should sell their Mirage-2000s to IAF along with Taiwan Mirages to IAF as they both might be looking to buy Rafael and EF-2000s. Also, South America has a clear option of: Super Mushak, K-8s and JF-17s Block-IIs...