brave indian soldier died of cardiac arrest after muajhedeen attack

[American Pakistani]

You can plebiscite in an alternate reality. India is not gonna do anything as such. If that's Pakistan's plan on the table. Then good luck. Or you can go war. Either way, nobody is going to help you or India.

Or keep this till we find a permanent solution for J&K.

Yes so we are back to square one, hence my previous post.

Keep fighting like some African nations instead of learning from France and Germany.

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

Where did I say I am a tough guy? Did you even learn reading comprehension? No I haven't used a assault rifle in my life, they are illegal in Australia but I have shot a bolt action before. The same thing will happen to you if a m4 rifle is shot at you.... civillians are the same everywhere you fool, everyone would be afraid of bullets and bombs.

Still didn't answer my question, do you know the cause of death for every single Pakistani soldier? If you don't then please shutup.

Hey idiot, I know what I am talking about because I have used and I own M4 and G3 . And one thing that will not going to happen to me is that I will die because of sound of firing. Instead we in Pakistan use assault rifle firing to celebrate wedding or cricket match victory. So if you ate saying we Pakistani public will be scared because of gun sounds then you are highly mistaken. And this proves that you didn't have opportunity to even use buckshot which you are claiming. And you have mentioned you used in Australia. Are you sure about that ??? because I am pretty sure the government of Australia banned all types of weapons to general public. So most likely you were using paint ball gun and claiming to use buckshot.
And coming to the point Do i know how Pakistani soldiers are martyred. For that case every Pakistani knows that how they fight and lay down their lives. Unlike pussycat Indian paramilitary forces scared to death when he is trained all these years to face such situations.

Well just ask the number of soldiers that died this year and past year....it isn't a concern for you people...

Well we are facing a war from all sides. And in war soldiers lose their lives and people have to sacrifice. That is where quality of character and will power of nation is determined. And Pakistani nation is one of the nation's which will take whatever you throw at us like champions and throw back at your face with double intensity.
Now a days it seems like our miltary establishment has decided to go on offensive . And what you are witnessing is only the starting of what we will do to you for what you were doing to us by supporting ttp and bla in last 10 -15 years.

 

[Thetigerforces]

Hey idiot, I know what I am talking about because I have used and I own M4 and G3 . And one thing that will not going to happen to me is that I will die because of sound of firing. Instead we in Pakistan use assault rifle firing to celebrate wedding or cricket match victory. So if you ate saying we Pakistani public will be scared because of gun sounds then you are highly mistaken. And this proves that you didn't have opportunity to even use buckshot which you are claiming. And you have mentioned you used in Australia. Are you sure about that ??? because I am pretty sure the government of Australia banned all types of weapons to general public. So most likely you were using paint ball gun and claiming to use buckshot.
And coming to the point Do i know how Pakistani soldiers are martyred. For that case every Pakistani knows that how they fight and lay down their lives. Unlike pussycat Indian paramilitary forces scared to death when he is trained all these years to face such situations.

No moron don't try and talk about things you do not know. Assault rifles are near impossible to obtain in Australia. However other guns such as bolt action rifles, semi-auto pistols, lever action shotguns etc are obtainable if you have a licence. You can easily rent a bolt action or a semi auto pistol at a gun range and shoot it for a few rounds, which is what I did.

You must not be very bright if you think all of them die in the same way.

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

No moron don't try and talk about things you do not know. Assault rifles are near impossible to obtain in Australia. However other guns such as bolt action rifles, semi-auto pistols, lever action shotguns etc are obtainable if you have a licence. You can easily rent a bolt action or a semi auto pistol at a gun range and shoot it for a few rounds, which is what I did.

You must not be very bright if you think all of them die in the same way.

Lol and what are you going to achieve by shooting 'few rounds ' of bolt action rifles?? And that too in controlled environment. I am a part time hunter. Whenever I am in Pakistan I usually go out hunting . I do know what type of environment the assault rifles will create. And a soldier trained for this type of environment will understand the situation quickly and respond similarly due to their training . It is natural. And you don't want to accept the reason for the death of your jawan was either lack of training or Indian Army is full of coward people

 

[Thetigerforces]

Lol and what are you going to achieve by shooting 'few rounds ' of bolt action rifles?? And that too in controlled environment. I am a part time hunter. Whenever I am in Pakistan I usually go out hunting . I do know what type of environment the assault rifles will create. And a soldier trained for this type of environment will understand the situation quickly and respond similarly due to their training . It is natural. And you don't want to accept the reason for the death of your jawan was either lack of training or Indian Army is full of coward people

That's all I can do really. You have to have a legitimate reason to own a gun, as much as I would like to own one it costs a lot of money and its not a one time fee either. On the other hand at least its harder for terrorists to get guns.

You seem to generalise a lot... you think the Pakistan army is full of heroes and the Indian army is full of cowards...guess you lack critical thinking huh?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Ohh hello Mr. My two very good friends have been martyred fighting the extremist radicals. And one of my friend was martyred because during one of such attacks he was in hand to hand combat with one attacker. As he was trying to arrest and disarm that fucker. So, I know what I am talking about. Unlike some of your esteem countrymen on this forum I am not keyboard warrior.
You Indians still have to feel the intensity of the attacks which we had been facing and before calling us cowards look in your own collar.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never called you guys cowards. While you may not command any respect as your own countrymen are known for abusing men in uniform. Even the thread title is nothing but a troll. And you guys are claiming all huff and tough.

If you look at the history of insurgency in Pakistan, you will understand how they were created, and for whose benefits. So, blame whoever deem to fit that profile.

 

[Willy wolly]

Hey idiot, I know what I am talking about because I have used and I own M4 and G3 . And one thing that will not going to happen to me is that I will die because of sound of firing. Instead we in Pakistan use assault rifle firing to celebrate wedding or cricket match victory. So if you ate saying we Pakistani public will be scared because of gun sounds then you are highly mistaken. And this proves that you didn't have opportunity to even use buckshot which you are claiming. And you have mentioned you used in Australia. Are you sure about that ??? because I am pretty sure the government of Australia banned all types of weapons to general public. So most likely you were using paint ball gun and claiming to use buckshot.
And coming to the point Do i know how Pakistani soldiers are martyred. For that case every Pakistani knows that how they fight and lay down their lives. Unlike pussycat Indian paramilitary forces scared to death when he is trained all these years to face such situations.


Well we are facing a war from all sides. And in war soldiers lose their lives and people have to sacrifice. That is where quality of character and will power of nation is determined. And Pakistani nation is one of the nation's which will take whatever you throw at us like champions and throw back at your face with double intensity.
Now a days it seems like our miltary establishment has decided to go on offensive . And what you are witnessing is only the starting of what we will do to you for what you were doing to us by supporting ttp and bla in last 10 -15 years.

You know what an army is right? An attack by even 10000 terrorists may look small when an army of the size of Indian army attacks.
You army is half the size of Indian army, you think you will last even 10 days with your existing equipment? Your navy would be the first one to lose, followed by air Force and then your army.
We have set numerous example yet you fail to learn that India is not a rajput kingdom, it's a country of 1.25 billion people with an army....
Tera asla khatam hojayega lekin Hindustani faujj iss baar rukegi nahi, bulalena apne chini baap ko bachane ke liye, tum usi layak ho!!!

 

[Chhatrapati]

Yes so we are back to square one, hence my previous post.

Keep fighting like some African nations instead of learning from France and Germany.

If that's what it takes.

France and Germany were not partitioned based on some religious issue. And looking at them, they had a bloody relation, before world war, and through the world war. Until there was a permanent solution.

All the nations are trying to have an advantage over the other, some through direct conflict, others through espionage and arm twist or straight out competition. True the west is having a good relationship with each other. But how good is that?

Anyway, the resolution is the issue is not by giving land or taking the land. it's not that simple anymore.

 

[Ocean]

Why do people feel the need to insult the average soldiers fighting for their country? Not every single soldier is involved in any crimes nor are they in any position to make policy decisions. Most soldiers go wherever their countries' send them, also, it is most likely that he was injured when he suffered cardiac arrest.

True , infact even if this soldier had raped and killed ur sister ,wife or daughter somewhere i would still have said what u are saying on his death. Uniformed soldier and all that.

 

[Jlaw]

Poor guy....probably never wanted to be an oppressing soldier and just joined to feed his family. Still he was one of the oppressors

A lot if them don't want to if they could be fed doing something else. The pay is not good and the food is terrible. I'm sure new soldiers are placed in areas where veteran soldiers don't want to be such as Donglang and Siachen. These soldiers know that a crazy command by supreme leader Modi to try and stop Chinese road building will result in retaliation next time. Soldiers placed there will experience great anxiety not knowing when they will die and live in shoddy condition.

 

[Pakistani E]

True , infact even if this soldier had raped and killed ur sister ,wife or daughter somewhere i would still have said what u are saying on his death. Uniformed soldier and all that.

As I said to a previous poster, you are free to do what you like. As for me, unless someone shows me tangible evidence this soldier was involved in any wrong doing apart from fighting for his nation, I will have nothing but respect for him for making the ultimate sacrifice.

This is what I was taught by my parents and family, more than half of whom are or have served in various branches of the Armed Forces of Pakistan. Some of whom have the made the ultimate sacrifice, so I cannot insult any soldier who gives his life for his nation based on my perception of an alleged crime that exists in the minds of the posters here.

The crimes committed by Indian forces are real however and should be investigated by U.N or the International court of Justice.

 

[Sully3]

I am a bit confused with the thread heading - the indian soldier was brave because he died of a cardiac arrest? So based on this logic, every person who dies of cardiac arrest is 'brave'? Doesn't make sense. Wouldn't it make more sense if the indian soldier died of cardiac arrest because he was shi.t scared?

more like not brave for having a cardiac arrest at a scenario he had been training for years.

badly trained indian army

 

[Pakistani E]

Any occupier in IOK is a terrorist...so,

Death to 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists. Where their orders came from is none of our business. They should know about indian terrorism before joining their army who terrorizes Kashmiris.

That's not how a disciplined army works. If every soldier sat down after getting an order on the moral repercussion of his decision, the Army will become an ineffective force.

As for Indian soldiers business in Kashmir, I also believe they have none. And there can never be peace here until Indian soldiers withdraw. That does not mean I have to insult every single dead Indian kid that falls on the battlefield.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ter...ng-centre-in-kashmir-s-pulwama-report-1793999

that brave soldier is no one but an officer.
officer Kuldeep Rai died due to heart attack. weak leader.

 

[ziaulislam]

this thread should be closed