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Boucher dismisses Indian proposal on Pakistan
NEW DELHI (April 08 2006): Boucher on Friday dismissed suggestion by some Indian critics that Washington should cool down its ties with Pakistan over concerns about militant activities on its soil that New Delhi charges are directed against Indian targets.

Boucher, who is visiting New Delhi to hold talks with Foreign Ministry officials as part of his first swing through the region since being named to the post in January, said Washington had an "important relationship" with Pakistan, a frontline ally in the US war on terror.

"Obviously, there are difficulties with extremists in Pakistan. We face a threat, India faces a threat. The Pakistan government faces a threat," he said.

"But we are all in this together. The only way out of this is together."

He was confident the US Congress would approve a major civilian nuclear deal with India, but said it could take a year for implementation.

Boucher said he believed the Congress would clear the agreement "because it is part and parcel of a new relationship with India. People want to support it."

"We are moving full speed ahead."

US opponents say the deal abandons longstanding non-proliferation rules, complicates efforts to curb the spread of atomic weapons, such as in Iran and North Korea, and could spur India to expand its nuclear weapons arsenal.

Boucher informed a business group that he hoped there would be a Congressional "vote in a few months from now", but cautioned full implementation of the agreement might take "maybe a year at best".

Under the deal, energy-starved India would gain access to long-denied civilian technology to help in fuelling its fast-expanding economy in return for placing a majority of its nuclear reactors under international inspection.

"There are a lot of pieces of this puzzle (to put together)," Boucher said.

In addition to Congressional approval, the 45-member nation Nuclear Suppliers Group must also sign off on the agreement.

The deal faces other hurdles such as an accord on inspections between India and the UN's nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Boucher, however, said lawmakers were coming around to accepting the deal described by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as a key element of "a partnership that will become one of the most important we have with any country in the 21st century."

The pact would end three decades of isolation under which India was refused help for its civilian energy programme after it first tested a nuclear weapon and refused to sign the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Boucher, who heads home next week, rejected media speculation Washington wanted better ties with India as a counterbalance to China's growing regional might, calling this "zero-sum thinking too simplistic."

India and the United States were on opposite sides of the fence during the Cold War, but ties have warmed sharply since.

"Good relations with India do not come at the expense of good relations with China," he said. "Both can be responsible stakeholders in the international system (and) are welcome and important partners of the United States."
 
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SATAN said:
Boucher dismisses Indian proposal on Pakistan
NEW DELHI (April 08 2006): Boucher on Friday dismissed suggestion by some Indian critics that Washington should cool down its ties with Pakistan over concerns about militant activities on its soil that New Delhi charges are directed against Indian targets.
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Can anyone tell me why these people are so dead set on harming Pakistan?? :mad:
 
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SATAN said:
Can anyone tell me why these people are so dead set on harming Pakistan?? :mad:

if u read it its not by the GOi but by some critics..and to let u know critics job is to criticise.
 
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Critics or propaganda machine, it didn't work!
Read the response from Boucher.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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SATAN said:
Boucher dismisses Indian proposal on Pakistan
NEW DELHI (April 08 2006): Boucher on Friday dismissed suggestion by some Indian critics that Washington should cool down its ties with Pakistan over concerns about militant activities on its soil that New Delhi charges are directed against Indian targets....
I find this headline mentioned only in Pakistani media. However, the below link is of the US embassy and the concerned CII speech is given along with the interviews on Zee TV, NDTV and CNN and I find no mention of this headline posted above.
http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/pr040706a.html
http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/pr041006b.html
http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/pr041006a.html
http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/pr041006.html
 
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sword9 said:
I find this headline mentioned only in Pakistani media. However, the below link is of the US embassy and the concerned CII speech is given along with the interviews on Zee TV, NDTV and CNN and I find no mention of this headline posted above.
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It dosnt matter whthr other newspapers or media channels had given the same headline or different.
The only thing that matters is the content and you can see and read clearly what the content say.
As far as different headline is concern, well being Journalist i tell you that every newspaper and media organisation gives its own headline based on the contents of the news that best explain it.
just pick different newspapers and u will see different headline on a same news.
jana
 
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Jana said:
sword9 said:
I find this headline mentioned only in Pakistani media. However, the below link is of the US embassy and the concerned CII speech is given along with the interviews on Zee TV, NDTV and CNN and I find no mention of this headline posted above.
QUOTE]

It dosnt matter whthr other newspapers or media channels had given the same headline or different.
The only thing that matters is the content and you can see and read clearly what the content say.
As far as different headline is concern, well being Journalist i tell you that every newspaper and media organisation gives its own headline based on the contents of the news that best explain it.
just pick different newspapers and u will see different headline on a same news.
jana

But the headline shud reflect the text.

Not like CIA asks and then the text is all about a retired CIA agent passing out his comments.
 
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Jana said:
It dosnt matter whthr other newspapers or media channels had given the same headline or different.
The only thing that matters is the content and you can see and read clearly what the content say.
As far as different headline is concern, well being Journalist i tell you that every newspaper and media organisation gives its own headline based on the contents of the news that best explain it.
just pick different newspapers and u will see different headline on a same news.
jana

Jana,
We have no problem facing critical comments in the media. The only thing that irks one is when the assumptions are doctored to suit ones palate.
 
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Neo said:
Critics or propaganda machine, it didn't work!
Read the response from Boucher.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

The effects of propaganda and critics were for the world to witness during the US Presidential visit to Pakistan a few weeks back.
 
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Whats effects are you talking about Sam?

Even a child in Pakistan understads US' asian politics, i.e. 'Give less and take everything as fast as you can, pack up and leave'

Nothing actually came as a surprise, India today is much more lucrative place for the $$$ hungry uncle to be and by amending NPT to enhance nuclear sales to India uncle has shown that even credibility and dignity can be compromised aslong as its for their benefit. :lol:

Sure Karzai and Singh influenced Bush's stance on Pakistan, but even without them its too clear that US is losing Pakistan!

This time if US messes up with Pakistan, it will be their loss, not ours! ;)
 
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Neo said:
This time if US messes up with Pakistan, it will be their loss, not ours! ;)
In what way Neo? The annual US aid to Pakistan is USD 600-700 million. China cannot match that aid deficit. Even in bilateral trade Sino-Pak is low at the level of USD 3 billion in 2004 (Indo-China bilateral trade as of 2004 USD 13 billion).
 
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sword9 said:
In what way Neo? The annual US aid to Pakistan is USD 600-700 million. China cannot match that aid deficit. Even in bilateral trade Sino-Pak is low at the level of USD 3 billion in 2004 (Indo-China bilateral trade as of 2004 USD 13 billion).

Sword,

All the other times they screwd up, the could easily come back by making new promises and giving aid, which ofcourse was always welcomed by the generals.

Today, Pakistan is less dependant on US aid, its a great comfort to have thier aid but we can get enough funds from the international market to make it on our own.

US has gone into the Indian camp, thats the general sentiment in Pakistan.
They screw up once again and Pakistan will unreversably turn to China.

US would lose probably its greatest and most underestimated ally in the region!
 
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Neo said:
Sword,

All the other times they screwd up, the could easily come back by making new promises and giving aid, which ofcourse was always welcomed by the generals.

Today, Pakistan is less dependant on US aid, its a great comfort to have thier aid but we can get enough funds from the international market to make it on our own.

US has gone into the Indian camp, thats the general sentiment in Pakistan.
They screw up once again and Pakistan will unreversably turn to China.

US would lose probably its greatest and most underestimated ally in the region!
It not the US that has forsaken Pakistan by Pakistan has made itself unviable as an 'ally'.

In your spare time research the involvement of the then DG ISI Lt. Gen Mahmoud Ahmad in financing Mohd Atta (9/11 terrorist). The US is milking Musharraf and the PA/ISI is responsible for putting Pakistan in such a vulnerable position.
 
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sword9 said:
It not the US that has forsaken Pakistan by Pakistan has made itself unviable as an 'ally'.

In your spare time research the involvement of the then DG ISI Lt. Gen Mahmoud Ahmad in financing Mohd Atta (9/11 terrorist). The US is milking Musharraf and the PA/ISI is responsible for putting Pakistan in such a vulnerable position.

dear u need to read it with attention and u will come to know that it was NOT Mahmood Ahamd :) u see the peoepl who had been nurtured by US itself are responsible for that. not PA or ISI.

with all its advances and technology US still needs ISI :rolleyes:
 
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Jana said:
dear u need to read it with attention and u will come to know that it was NOT Mahmood Ahamd :) u see the peoepl who had been nurtured by US itself are responsible for that. not PA or ISI.
Wheather you believe or deny it, the fact remains that Mahmoud was forced to resign on US insistance (he is currently in Fauji Foundation, its a nice rehab place for ex-generals). The intercept on this money transfer was obtained by RAW 6 months before 9/11 when they were tracking a Dawood Ibrahim gang member who has given instructions by the General, its importance was realised only after 9/11.

with all its advances and technology US still needs ISI :rolleyes:
Everyone needs foot soldiers, don't they?
 
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