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are you jokingDont you read that news when Al Jazzera reporter captured by Afghan government and then released after three days.
Bombs and beatings: Life among the Taliban
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are you jokingDont you read that news when Al Jazzera reporter captured by Afghan government and then released after three days.
Dont you read that news when Al Jazzera reporter captured by Afghan government and then released after three days.
and i mentioned this problem to you before hand. afghanistan is not a paradise of free press. but what we have is the best in our history.
by the way, what do you think about the killing of those school children and that young journalist? and the killign of civilians based on their ethnicity and shia-sunni prejudist?
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"UN is US financed organisation..."
We are the largest but, by far, not the sole source of financing so...another distorted lie. Please read this easily researched data-
Assessment of Member States’ contributions to the United Nations regular budget for the year 2009 U.N. Secretariat
Top 10 donators to the UN budget, 2009[44] Member state Contribution
(% of UN budget)
United States 22.00%
Japan 16.624%
Germany 8.577%
United Kingdom 6.642%
France 6.301%
Italy 5.079%
Canada 2.977%
Spain 2.968%
China 2.667%
Mexico 2.257%
Other member states 23.908%
Gee whiz! So Japan and Germany BY THEMSELVES contribute more together than America? I thought that our irhabist propagandist said the U.N. was a "US financed organisation". More lies from the taliban mouthpiece.
"...why US dont allow un baised media ie. Al Jazera for reporting in Afghanistan?"
Talk to the afghans but I doubt that there's been a war with more global coverage than Afghanistan. Pakistan can't claim the same and Saudi Arabia/Yemen sure as hell can't. More idiocy.
The rest of you need to get busy using FACTS to dispell this nonsense spewed by the taliban irhabist propaganda mouthpiece. Easily done, btw.
Thanks.
We are the largest but, by far, not the sole source of financing so...another distorted lie. Please read this easily researched data-
Assessment of Member States’ contributions to the United Nations regular budget for the year 2009 U.N. Secretariat
Top 10 donators to the UN budget, 2009[44] Member state Contribution
(% of UN budget)
United States 22.00%
Japan 16.624%
Germany 8.577%
United Kingdom 6.642%
France 6.301%
Italy 5.079%
Canada 2.977%
Spain 2.968%
China 2.667%
Mexico 2.257%
Other member states 23.908%
Gee whiz! So Japan and Germany BY THEMSELVES contribute more together than America? I thought that our irhabist propagandist said the U.N. was a "US financed organisation". More lies from the taliban mouthpiece.
"...why US dont allow un baised media ie. Al Jazera for reporting in Afghanistan?"
Talk to the afghans but I doubt that there's been a war with more global coverage than Afghanistan. Pakistan can't claim the same and Saudi Arabia/Yemen sure as hell can't. More idiocy.
The rest of you need to get busy using FACTS to dispell this nonsense spewed by the taliban irhabist propaganda mouthpiece. Easily done, btw.
Thanks.
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"UN is US financed organisation..."
We are the largest but, by far, not the sole source of financing so...another distorted lie. Please read this easily researched data-
Assessment of Member States’ contributions to the United Nations regular budget for the year 2009 U.N. Secretariat
Top 10 donators to the UN budget, 2009[44] Member state Contribution
(% of UN budget)
United States 22.00%
Japan 16.624%
Germany 8.577%
United Kingdom 6.642%
France 6.301%
Italy 5.079%
Canada 2.977%
Spain 2.968%
China 2.667%
Mexico 2.257%
Other member states 23.908%
Gee whiz! So Japan and Germany BY THEMSELVES contribute more together than America? I thought that our irhabist propagandist said the U.N. was a "US financed organisation". More lies from the taliban mouthpiece.
"...why US dont allow un baised media ie. Al Jazera for reporting in Afghanistan?"
Talk to the afghans but I doubt that there's been a war with more global coverage than Afghanistan. Pakistan can't claim the same and Saudi Arabia/Yemen sure as hell can't. More idiocy.
The rest of you need to get busy using FACTS to dispell this nonsense spewed by the taliban irhabist propaganda mouthpiece. Easily done, btw.
Thanks.
All of UN contributors mentioned in above list are part of ISAF except China and Russia .
The AIHRC, which was set up by a UN General Assembly mandate and is funded from a levy on donations flowing through the UN, asserts that 98 percent of civilian casualties caused by coalition forces in Afghanistan are “intentional.”
The head of the AIHRC, Lal Gul, said in a Sept. 2 report, “The actions of the coalition forces, especially the American forces, are not only against the human rights laws, but are considered war crimes.”
http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2008/11/06/afghanistan-the-wrong-war-at-any-time_6453.html
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Afghanistan: the wrong war at any time
“We have the same ideas as the Taliban,” says parliamentarian Qazi Naseer Ahmad.
For months now Afghanistan has been deadlier for U.S. troops than Iraq, even though there are 32,000 U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan and 160,000 in Iraq.
BBC Persian, October 17, 2008: Official statistics show that Afghanistan has the highest level of poverty among the South-Asian countries. On the basis of the official statistics, around 20 million people are living under the line of poverty in this country. The government of Afghanistan, despite the support of the International Community, has not been able to do something considerable for decreasing poverty.A total of 1,004 foreign soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001. Some 625 of the casualties were from the United States. Forty percent of them occurred in the past two years. (icasualties.org)
A handful of U.S. special forces in coalition with warlords from the north of the country overthrew the Taliban government in 2001. The Revolutionary Association of Women in Afghanistan sums up the event this way: “The U.S. ‘war on terrorism’ removed the Taliban regime in October 2001, but it has not removed religious fundamentalism which is the main cause of all our miseries. In fact, by reinstalling the warlords in power in Afghanistan, the U.S. administration is replacing one fundamentalist regime with another.” (rawa.org)
Currently NATO supplies the troops for the UN-mandated International Security Assistance Force. About 18,000 U.S. troops operate under ISAF control.
Most of the casualties from violence in Afghanistan are civilians. A very rough and incomplete count from January 2008 by the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission counted 900 civilian deaths, many of them from attacks on wedding parties and funerals or children at play. An estimate from the Xinhua News Agency gives civilian deaths as 1,415. (Sept. 28)
The AIHRC, which was set up by a UN General Assembly mandate and is funded from a levy on donations flowing through the UN, asserts that 98 percent of civilian casualties caused by coalition forces in Afghanistan are “intentional.”
The head of the AIHRC, Lal Gul, said in a Sept. 2 report, “The actions of the coalition forces, especially the American forces, are not only against the human rights laws, but are considered war crimes.”
In addition to the deaths caused by the violence raging throughout the country, Afghanistan is facing the threat of famine this winter due to three years of failed crops. The Afghan Ministry of Agriculture, Irrigation and Livestock estimates that the country needs two million tons of basic food–wheat, flour and rice–in the next six months to feed people in isolated areas.
Even if the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization and other donor organizations can get tons of food to Afghanistan’s major cities, they will encounter extreme problems with moving it to the isolated communities where most of the country’s poor live.
Not only have 40 years of war destroyed Afghanistan’s roads, but the Afghan resistance attacks supply lines to keep materiel from reaching the U.S. and NATO outposts that are far from the capital. These two factors have driven up the cost of moving a truckload of food or goods from Kabul to Khandahar, the two largest cities in Afghanistan, from $1,800 in the spring to almost 10 times as much currently. The price increase implies a large increase in risk to the truckers. (Der Spiegel, Oct. 17)
According to Asian Times Pakistan bureau head Syed Saleem Shahzad, the Taliban have such accurate intelligence on U.S./NATO shipments to Afghanistan through the Pakistani port of Karachi that the ISAF made a deal to move nonmilitary cargo through Russia. (Le Monde Diplomatique, Oct. 2008)
Even though foreign donors–mainly the U.S. and its imperialist European allies like Britain, Germany and France–have supplied Afghanistan with $35 billion in “aid” since 2001, around 20 million people out of a population of 26 million are living under the poverty line based on official statistics. (BBC, Oct. 17)
According to the FAO, being poor in Afghanistan means living on less than two U.S. dollars a day. Adult literacy is only 29 percent. In some regions, less than one percent of the population is literate. One in five children dies before the age of five.
While the living standards of the Afghan people as a whole are deteriorating rapidly as the war intensifies between the client government of Hamid Karzai, propped up by ISAF and the U.S., and its opposition, led by the Taliban, the Kabul government is also attacking the conditions of women.
“We have the same ideas as the Taliban,” says parliamentarian Qazi Naseer Ahmad. “We want sharia [Islamic] law in our country. Women must ask permission from their husbands before they leave the home, and they must not wear clothes that are against Islam.” (Christian Science Monitor, April 21)
The Monitor also wrote that some members of parliament proposed legislation in April that would ban T-shirts, loud music, women and men mingling in public, billiards, video games, playing with pigeons and kites, and more. This proposal would reinstate the regulations from the Taliban era that the U.S. corporate media publicized in order to justify removing the Taliban with the 2001 invasion.
Gen. David Petraeus took the helm at Central Command Oct. 31, a step which puts him in charge of the U.S. military in both Iraq and Afghanistan. In Iraq he was the architect of the surge. He is expected to promote a similar “surge” in Afghanistan, with a twist that underlines the weak U.S. position in that country.
Petraeus is open to negotiations with the “moderate” elements of the Taliban. He recognizes that the U.S. and its allies can’t win militarily.
The colonial occupation of Afghanistan by the United States and its imperialist allies has been a disaster for the Afghan people. Progressives outside Afghanistan must demand an end to the entire occupation and not allow an increase of U.S. and NATO troops, even one that accompanies negotiations.
“We have the same ideas as the Taliban,” says parliamentarian Qazi Naseer Ahmad.
For months now Afghanistan has been deadlier for U.S. troops than Iraq, even though there are 32,000 U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan and 160,000 in Iraq.
BBC Persian, October 17, 2008: Official statistics show that Afghanistan has the highest level of poverty among the South-Asian countries. On the basis of the official statistics, around 20 million people are living under the line of poverty in this country. The government of Afghanistan, despite the support of the International Community, has not been able to do something considerable for decreasing poverty.A total of 1,004 foreign soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001. Some 625 of the casualties were from the United States. Forty percent of them occurred in the past two years. (icasualties.org)
A handful of U.S. special forces in coalition with warlords from the north of the country overthrew the Taliban government in 2001. The Revolutionary Association of Women in Afghanistan sums up the event this way: “The U.S. ‘war on terrorism’ removed the Taliban regime in October 2001, but it has not removed religious fundamentalism which is the main cause of all our miseries. In fact, by reinstalling the warlords in power in Afghanistan, the U.S. administration is replacing one fundamentalist regime with another.” (rawa.org)
Currently NATO supplies the troops for the UN-mandated International Security Assistance Force. About 18,000 U.S. troops operate under ISAF control.
Most of the casualties from violence in Afghanistan are civilians. A very rough and incomplete count from January 2008 by the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission counted 900 civilian deaths, many of them from attacks on wedding parties and funerals or children at play. An estimate from the Xinhua News Agency gives civilian deaths as 1,415. (Sept. 28)
The AIHRC, which was set up by a UN General Assembly mandate and is funded from a levy on donations flowing through the UN, asserts that 98 percent of civilian casualties caused by coalition forces in Afghanistan are “intentional.”
The head of the AIHRC, Lal Gul, said in a Sept. 2 report, “The actions of the coalition forces, especially the American forces, are not only against the human rights laws, but are considered war crimes.”
In addition to the deaths caused by the violence raging throughout the country, Afghanistan is facing the threat of famine this winter due to three years of failed crops. The Afghan Ministry of Agriculture, Irrigation and Livestock estimates that the country needs two million tons of basic food–wheat, flour and rice–in the next six months to feed people in isolated areas.
Even if the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization and other donor organizations can get tons of food to Afghanistan’s major cities, they will encounter extreme problems with moving it to the isolated communities where most of the country’s poor live.
Not only have 40 years of war destroyed Afghanistan’s roads, but the Afghan resistance attacks supply lines to keep materiel from reaching the U.S. and NATO outposts that are far from the capital. These two factors have driven up the cost of moving a truckload of food or goods from Kabul to Khandahar, the two largest cities in Afghanistan, from $1,800 in the spring to almost 10 times as much currently. The price increase implies a large increase in risk to the truckers. (Der Spiegel, Oct. 17)
According to Asian Times Pakistan bureau head Syed Saleem Shahzad, the Taliban have such accurate intelligence on U.S./NATO shipments to Afghanistan through the Pakistani port of Karachi that the ISAF made a deal to move nonmilitary cargo through Russia. (Le Monde Diplomatique, Oct. 2008)
Even though foreign donors–mainly the U.S. and its imperialist European allies like Britain, Germany and France–have supplied Afghanistan with $35 billion in “aid” since 2001, around 20 million people out of a population of 26 million are living under the poverty line based on official statistics. (BBC, Oct. 17)
According to the FAO, being poor in Afghanistan means living on less than two U.S. dollars a day. Adult literacy is only 29 percent. In some regions, less than one percent of the population is literate. One in five children dies before the age of five.
While the living standards of the Afghan people as a whole are deteriorating rapidly as the war intensifies between the client government of Hamid Karzai, propped up by ISAF and the U.S., and its opposition, led by the Taliban, the Kabul government is also attacking the conditions of women.
“We have the same ideas as the Taliban,” says parliamentarian Qazi Naseer Ahmad. “We want sharia [Islamic] law in our country. Women must ask permission from their husbands before they leave the home, and they must not wear clothes that are against Islam.” (Christian Science Monitor, April 21)
The Monitor also wrote that some members of parliament proposed legislation in April that would ban T-shirts, loud music, women and men mingling in public, billiards, video games, playing with pigeons and kites, and more. This proposal would reinstate the regulations from the Taliban era that the U.S. corporate media publicized in order to justify removing the Taliban with the 2001 invasion.
Gen. David Petraeus took the helm at Central Command Oct. 31, a step which puts him in charge of the U.S. military in both Iraq and Afghanistan. In Iraq he was the architect of the surge. He is expected to promote a similar “surge” in Afghanistan, with a twist that underlines the weak U.S. position in that country.
Petraeus is open to negotiations with the “moderate” elements of the Taliban. He recognizes that the U.S. and its allies can’t win militarily.
The colonial occupation of Afghanistan by the United States and its imperialist allies has been a disaster for the Afghan people. Progressives outside Afghanistan must demand an end to the entire occupation and not allow an increase of U.S. and NATO troops, even one that accompanies negotiations.
All of UN contributors mentioned in above list are part of ISAF except China and Russia .
The AIHRC, which was set up by a UN General Assembly mandate and is funded from a levy on donations flowing through the UN, asserts that 98 percent of civilian casualties caused by coalition forces in Afghanistan are intentional.
The head of the AIHRC, Lal Gul, said in a Sept. 2 report, The actions of the coalition forces, especially the American forces, are not only against the human rights laws, but are considered war crimes.
Afghanistan: the wrong war at any time « RAWA News
good, you are quoting someting from RAWA, these rawa guys have plenty of talks about taliban atrocities can you shed some light on that? i am repeatedly asking you about the crimes of the taliban and you are choosing to ignore it. the journalist, the school kids, the innocent civilians killed based on ethnic/religious prejudice etc. what do you think of them?
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AIHRC is not blaming Mullah Omar but ISAF?
Can you post the exact link of AIHRC report please? i dont mean a commentry article by RAWA.
by the way nobody is denying the civilian casualties in the hands of allied forces.
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Please find link in my thread " ISAF WAR CRIMES"
i went through the thread and found nothing, it was all about social and welfare issues with one exception that a survey found that 75% of peope blame taliban for all the casualties.
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AIHRC head said : 98% civilian killed by ISAF forces in Afghanistan, i shall try to find his email and telephone numbers
‘US troops are committing war crimes’
i want the original Afghan Human rights link, not somebody's blog.
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here is a AIHRC report from 2008 detailing Insurgent abuses
http://www.aihrc.org.af/2008_Dec/PDF_Anti_G/Eng_anti_G.pdf
"The AIHRC has documented cases of widespread and systematic intimidation, abductions, shootings, beheadings, hangings, mutilations, perfidious suicide attacks, and indiscriminate rockets attacks by insurgents against civilians around the country and especially in the southern, southeastern, eastern and central regions of Afghanistan over the past two years. Media reports and other sources have corroborated many of the testimonies included in this report and have reported on many additional cases in these and other regions."
Could not find any report links on their web site from 2009 that worked
http://www.aihrc.org.af/2008_Dec/PDF_Anti_G/Eng_anti_G.pdf
"The AIHRC has documented cases of widespread and systematic intimidation, abductions, shootings, beheadings, hangings, mutilations, perfidious suicide attacks, and indiscriminate rockets attacks by insurgents against civilians around the country and especially in the southern, southeastern, eastern and central regions of Afghanistan over the past two years. Media reports and other sources have corroborated many of the testimonies included in this report and have reported on many additional cases in these and other regions."
Could not find any report links on their web site from 2009 that worked
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Afghanistan: the wrong war at any time « RAWA News
http://www.asia-pacific-action.org/node/172
For more information about US-NATO war crimes please go to website of AIHRC
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