Bombings In Hyderabad, India

[Awesome]

Well we are being patient, looks like you dont appreciate that.

Anything but "Decisive Action", ok?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Pt of suspicion is now plainly on Pakistan as 'Bilal' the main suspect in Hrdbad bomb blasts have been shot dead in karachi.

Bilal bumped off by ISI masters for overstepping brief

Based on what? How does a tale of two men on a motorbike shooting down some guy, translate into "the ISI bumped off the RDX exporting guy"? How do they even know if this is the same Shahid Bilal? Thats a pretty common name, and if he was involved in criminal circles, getting "bumped off" by other "criminals" would be a reasonable explanation.

 

[Bull]

Based on what? How does a tale of two men on a motorbike shooting down some guy, translate into "the ISI bumped off the RDX exporting guy"? How do they even know if this is the same Shahid Bilal? Thats a pretty common name, and if he was involved in criminal circles, getting "bumped off" by other "criminals" would be a reasonable explanation.

Well, the easiest thing to do is to deny all these and keep on asking for proof.

 

[Bull]

Pakistan had nothing to do with kashmiri Militants, Dawood, AQ, Taliban, 9/11, 7/7, isnt it.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Well, the easiest thing to do is to deny all these and keep on asking for proof.

It is also the easiest thing to do to point fingers at anyone but yourself, especially when the entity having mud slung at it happens to be one with which you have conflicts.

Blaming organizations or individuals, that operate outside the ambit of the law, is a little different from implicating the State or its institutions in "terrorism". While I'll admit that individuals or organizations, that conduct these kinds of attacks, may be operating from Pakistan, there is no evidence that the Pakistan state ever sponsored terrorist attacks in India - and I am not including support for the Kashmiri Freedom movement in "terrorism".

 

[Bull]

It is also the easiest thing to do to point fingers at anyone but yourself, especially when the entity having mud slung at it happens to be one with which you have conflicts.

The fact that whole world is pointing fingers at Pakistan is just a coincedence, right?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The fact that whole world is pointing fingers at Pakistan is just a coincedence, right?

Pointing fingers at possible links to "groups or individuals" within Pakistan, not at Pakistan. Considering the fact that the GoP does not have control over FATA, its not that hard for such people to do what they do. GoP is working to fix the mess left behind by the Russians and Americans and Zia with whatever little resources it has.

 

[Bull]

Pointing fingers at possible links to "groups or individuals" within Pakistan, not at Pakistan. Considering the fact that the GoP does not have control over FATA, its not that hard for such people to do what they do. GoP is working to fix the mess left behind by the Russians and Americans and Zia with whatever little resources it has.

Thats all what im sayng. Pakistani Pres himself has said he doesnt have complete control over parts of ISI and PA which are sympathetic to the extremists. For we outsiders that doesnt matter, any scum arising from Pakistan has to be dealt by pakistan itself and we will continue to pt fingers at you for that same reason.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Thats all what im sayng. Pakistani Pres himself has said he doesnt have complete control over parts of ISI and PA which are sympathetic to the extremists. For we outsiders that doesnt matter, any scum arising from Pakistan has to be dealt by pakistan itself and we will continue to pt fingers at you for that same reason.

Finger pointing at inadequate, or incapable, law enforcement is completely justified. Pakistanis are themselves at the forefront of criticizing this government, and previous ones, for their lackluster attempts at reforming the LEA's. But what typically comes out of India is a deliberate attempt to implicate the Pakistani State in terrorism, that is different from what the rest of the world says. At most the rest of the world may grumble about the possibility of some individuals within the ISI having misplaced loyalties, which is understandable, but a far cry from the ISI running Terrorist groups and ordering assassinations of those members who "do not perform up to par".

 

[bhangra12345]

Finger pointing at inadequate, or incapable, law enforcement is completely justified. Pakistanis are themselves at the forefront of criticizing this government, and previous ones, for their lackluster attempts at reforming the LEA's. But what typically comes out of India is a deliberate attempt to implicate the Pakistani State in terrorism, that is different from what the rest of the world says. At most the rest of the world may grumble about the possibility of some individuals within the ISI having misplaced loyalties, which is understandable, but a far cry from the ISI running Terrorist groups and ordering assassinations of those members who "do not perform up to par".

There is a but a small difference. ISI was created for us, India. The maximum effect of their misplaced loyalties and such stuff will also be affecting us the most. So you will hear the shouting from us more naturally.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

There is a but a small difference. ISI was created for us, India. The maximum effect of their misplaced loyalties and such stuff will also be affecting us the most. So you will hear the shouting from us more naturally.

You turn the small difference into quite a large one by implying that the entire organization of the ISI is "against India" - which it may be, as the intelligence agency of a country that considers India a hostile neighbor. But being an India specific intelligence agency is a far cry from "sponsoring acts of terrorism". If it is "rogue elements" that concern you, and you cannot conclusively show that such elements do not exist within the Indian agencies as well, then I fail to see justification for the level of concern typically expressed in India, considering that such rogues would not have official sanction to use agency funds or resources to promote such groups or activities.

 

[haviZsultan]

Thats all what im sayng. Pakistani Pres himself has said he doesnt have complete control over parts of ISI and PA which are sympathetic to the extremists. For we outsiders that doesnt matter, any scum arising from Pakistan has to be dealt by pakistan itself and we will continue to pt fingers at you for that same reason.

ISI? Is that the only word that comes to your heads? Woah! Some parts are sympethetic to terrorists... definately they are involved with fighting terrorists but secretly they are also supporting them! Well done! I expect nothing less from you! Why do you keep inventing stuff? Sometimes you say the ISI is responsible. Sometimes you say militants from Bangladesh are responsible and maybe tommarrow you will say militants from Australia are responsible...

I can understand that you can only make up stuff because you have no proof! Please continue shedding tears over your invented problems. I wonder if you actually set up the bombings yourself just so that you could come here and blame ISI.

 

[Bull]

Finger pointing at inadequate, or incapable, law enforcement is completely justified. Pakistanis are themselves at the forefront of criticizing this government, and previous ones, for their lackluster attempts at reforming the LEA's. But what typically comes out of India is a deliberate attempt to implicate the Pakistani State in terrorism, that is different from what the rest of the world says. At most the rest of the world may grumble about the possibility of some individuals within the ISI having misplaced loyalties, which is understandable, but a far cry from the ISI running Terrorist groups and ordering assassinations of those members who "do not perform up to par".

'Pakistan isnt doing enough' isnt that what you hear evreybody saying and hws that different from what India is saying,

 

[Bull]

ISI? Is that the only word that comes to your heads? Woah! Some parts are sympethetic to terrorists... definately they are involved with fighting terrorists but secretly they are also supporting them! Well done! I expect nothing less from you!

weird i know, bu then thats what your president says.

 

[IceCold]

Well we are being patient, looks like you dont appreciate that.

The only thing we will appreciate is when india would stop her usual BS propaganda stuff about pakistan and stop blaming pakistan for every failure that occurs within India.