Bollywood celebrities drug issue

[Goenitz]

Hi,

There is a lot of unnecessary bashing in indian media about bollywood. Should we take advantage of it and start blaming bollywood as a whole?
We can say it is a hub of money laundering (if so) , drug cartel etc so people should ban it.. I am not talking about drug consumption but as network.
I mean indian themselves blaming bollywood, i think we should jump in pointing towards their prime industry and malign India as a whole?

is it possible?

 

[charene514]

Pray do try !

Unless your movie budgets are matching, no one would bother.

Hypothetically speaking, if a pissed off salman khan starts a diatribe against Hollywood, forget americans, would even Indians bother ? Hell No.

Understand concept of credibility.

 

[Goenitz]

Pray do try !

Unless your movie budgets are matching, no one would bother.

Hypothetically speaking, if a pissed off salman khan starts a diatribe against Hollywood, forget americans, would even Indians bother ? Hell No.

Understand concept of credibility.

my point is just to damage the industry.. another revenue source in Modi india would stale.. thats it. SO if only we can inflame it more towards decline.. of course it would not bend on knees as it is a very big industry.. but a nudge is fine too

 

[Dalit]

It is certainly making headlines all over the world.

 

[jamahir]

Bollywood certainly needs a cleansing. Mindless violence-based films especially those semi-glorifying gang warfare in small towns ( like Gangs of Wasseypur ) need to be banned.

Good films like Harud and Rocket Singh : Salesman of the year need to be promoted.

In fact I will say that the Hindi film industry, its technical machinery, needs to be uprooted from Bombay and moved to say Delhi or Shimla. There's no logical reason that the Hindi film industry should not be shifted from the criminalism of Bombay.

 

[Verve]

Hi,

There is a lot of unnecessary bashing in indian media about bollywood. Should we take advantage of it and start blaming bollywood as a whole?
We can say it is a hub of money laundering (if so) , drug cartel etc so people should ban it.. I am not talking about drug consumption but as network.
I mean indian themselves blaming bollywood, i think we should jump in pointing towards their prime industry and malign India as a whole?

is it possible?

We Pakistanis shouldn't raise it as raising it by us may actually lead to drilling some sense in these drug addicts. Let them be and let them destroy themselves.

What we need to focus on is getting our people to stop watching the crap movies by this industry.

 

[Jackdaws]

Bollywood certainly needs a cleansing. Mindless violence-based films especially those semi-glorifying gang warfare in small towns ( like Gangs of Wasseypur ) need to be banned.

Good films like Harud and Rocket Singh : Salesman of the year need to be promoted.

In fact I will say that the Hindi film industry, its technical machinery, needs to be uprooted from Bombay and moved to say Delhi or Shimla. There's no logical reason that the Hindi film industry should not be shifted from the criminalism of Bombay.

LOL - what nonsense. No movies should be banned. Only movies coming out of the North from Delhi and around there are those ridiculous Bhojpuri movies. Work on them.

 

[Liaslia]

Sushant Singh Rajput was a drug addict.

 

[jamahir]

LOL - what nonsense. No movies should be banned. Only movies coming out of the North from Delhi and around there are those ridiculous Bhojpuri movies. Work on them.

1. The film Khosla Ka Ghosla was set in Delhi and came out nice. The 1982 film Vijeta which was about a young man joining the Indian Air Force was set in various locations including out of Bombay. Harud was set in Kashmir. So films being in Delhi and out places not Bombay need not mean that they will turn out bad.

2. I agree that Bhojpuri films generally are ridiculous but I like the voluptuous actresses they have, contrast to the size-zero expectation from heroines in Bollywood.

3. I want to make clear that a film having violence need not automatically mean it is bad. There are the fine films Prahaar and Arjun. But how can one justify semi-glorification of films like Gangs of Wasseypur ?

 

[Jackdaws]

1. The film Khosla Ka Ghosla was set in Delhi and came out nice. The 1982 film Vijeta which was about a young man joining the Indian Air Force was set in various locations including out of Bombay. Harud was set in Kashmir. So films being in Delhi and out places not Bombay need not mean that they will turn out bad.

2. I agree that Bhojpuri films generally are ridiculous but I like the voluptuous actresses they have, contrast to the size-zero expectation from heroines in Bollywood.

3. I want to make clear that a film having violence need not automatically mean it is bad. There are the fine films Prahaar and Arjun. But how can one justify semi-glorification of films like Gangs of Wasseypur ?

Being set in Delhi doesn't mean much. The pre production, sound editing, post production, marketing, costume design, trailer cutting etc. all happen in Bombay. Shooting is just part of the process.
Only Bombay, Hyderabad and Chennai have the ecosystem where everything is available. And even then, a lot of work from Southern industries happens only in Bombay.

We don't live in North Korea. The job of the movie maker is to entertain, not provide social messages. Gangs of Wasseypur is a movie like many Tarantino movies. The genre of gangsters and gang wars has a huge following.

It's far better than the double meaning Bhojpuri movies and God knows what that comes out of Delhi and around the area.

 

[terry5]

Marijuana is not a drug it’s natural it’s a healing .

much safer than liquor

 

[jamahir]

Being set in Delhi doesn't mean much. The pre production, sound editing, post production, marketing, costume design, trailer cutting etc. all happen in Bombay. Shooting is just part of the process.
Only Bombay, Hyderabad and Chennai have the ecosystem where everything is available. And even then, a lot of work from Southern industries happens only in Bombay.

But there is no actual reason why these technical aspects of film production cannot be done outside of Bombay. There can be even a new film city set up in the North.

The job of the movie maker is to entertain, not provide social messages.

There are quite a few post-1947 films and from even before which have social messages - like Achhut Kanya which was about inequality against Dalits. This message is relevant even now.

The genre of gangsters and gang wars has a huge following.

Such films on the whole legitimize gang wars, which is not a nice thing to have. You mention Tarantino. Well, one foreign film that has violence yet was superb and acceptable to me was the 2015 film The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

Though I must admit that I like the Hollywood gang-based film Heat and the Bollywood film Johnny Gaddaar.

 

[Diggy]

But there is no actual reason why these technical aspects of film production cannot be done outside of Bombay. There can be even a new film city set up in the North.



There are quite a few post-1947 films and from even before which have social messages - like Achhut Kanya which was about inequality against Dalits. This message is relevant even now.



Such films on the whole legitimize gang wars, which is not a nice thing to have. You mention Tarantino. Well, one foreign film that has violence yet was superb and acceptable to me was the 2015 film The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

Though I must admit that I like the Hollywood gang-based film Heat and the Bollywood film Johnny Gaddaar.

We have something called genre in movies , directors like kashyap are inspired by tarantino & scorsese , Sriram Raghvan who made Jhonny Gaddar & kashyap are products of RGV who himself is a fan of crime genre & had made countless films on them, there is a good following for crime & thriller genre with limited budgets in India, to say such films shouldn't be made is a bit crazy, Americans have made the most gory violent films , compare their crime rate to our crime rate or to that of a country which has no films itself.

But I agree with you on other point, we need some studios out of Mumbai, especially after seeing all the criminal mafia involvement in the entire SSR case, how they work as single unit to protect each other, the film-making needs to be diversified, I agree with you on that part.

Personally even I am no big fan of wasseypur , kashyaps finest work was pre 2010, Gulaal , DevD & black friday. Unfortunately he has lost his mojo now , he is not the director which he use to be.

 

[jamahir]

Sriram Raghvan who made Jhonny Gaddar & kashyap are products of RGV who himself is a fan of crime genre & had made countless films on them,

I liked RGV's Satya which is about the futility of gang life.

to say such films shouldn't be made is a bit crazy

I liked Arjun and Prahaar both of which do not glorify gang life but seek to oppose it.

Americans have made the most gory violent films , compare their crime rate to our crime rate or to that of a country which has no films itself.

Agreed.

But I agree with you on other point, we need some studios out of Mumbai, especially after seeing all the criminal mafia involvement in the entire SSR case, how they work as single unit to protect each other, the film-making needs to be diversified, I agree with you on that part.

Agreed.

And while 'closing of ranks' is there is case of the SSR case, while going through the Wikipedia page for Black Friday I found a nice thing about one of its senior-in-age actors by name Savi Sadhu. It seems he had to take up a watchman's job because he was jobless. Nothing wrong in a watchman's job though it is not as high-paying as an actor, typically. The industry took upon itself to help him. This is the article.

Personally even I am no big fan of wasseypur , kashyaps finest work was pre 2010, Gulaal , DevD & black friday. Unfortunately he has lost his mojo now , he is not the director which he use to be.

I liked Gulaal.

 

[Peace be there]

I liked RGV's Satya which is about the futility of gang life.



I liked Arjun and Prahaar both of which do not glorify gang life but seek to oppose it.



Agreed.



Agreed.

And while 'closing of ranks' is there is case of the SSR case, while going through the Wikipedia page for Black Friday I found a nice thing about one of its senior-in-age actors by name Savi Sadhu. It seems he had to take up a watchman's job because he was jobless. Nothing wrong in a watchman's job though it is not as high-paying as an actor, typically. The industry took upon itself to help him. This is the article.



I liked Gulaal.

Teri Keh k lunga.how was that bad ? Faisal,perpendicular nice movie.