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Boeing Unveils An AMCA ‘Sweetener’

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As Boeing Defense revives its campaign for the F/A-18 Super Hornet in India, a slide in its presentation today on the pitch stands out significant and adds telling detail to an aspect of the effort that has remained relatively unknown — how India’s proposed Make In India Fighter programme ties in with the country’s concept fifth generation development AMCA platform. We now know that Boeing has a very specific plan, with three major thrusts:

First, as the slide most visibly suggests, Boeing proposes that the manufacturing facility and supply eco-system that it builds up for the F/A-18 in India in the event it is chosen, could be used to produce the AMCA. The existing facility could be leveraged, precluding the need for a greenfield setup elsewhere.

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Second, also mentioned specifically in the slide is the GE 414 enhanced engine pitch. Significant. Boeing here is proposing engine commonality from the get-go to support the prospective selection of the Super Hornet platform. Both Boeing and GE are in ‘multiple stakeholder discussions’ with the DRDO, Indian Air Force (and, presumably the MoD) on this aspect, said Boeing India President Pratyush Kumar during a presentation by Dan Gillian, Boeing’s VP on the F/A-18 programme headquartered at St Louis (Livefist is in the United States at the invitation of Boeing Defense). The enhanced GE 414 would be a feature on the Advanced Super Hornet proposed as part of the Make In India pitch. How this ties in with India’s own engine development efforts and opportunities remains unclear. The indigenisation thrust need to ensure the Kaveri effort hasn’t gone to waste — the AMCA could potentially be India’s last indigenous manned fighter project for the next three-four decades.

Finally, there is the suggestion that Boeing could be available to help along the AMCA programme directly as a partner or consultant in such a way that it makes the Block 2 Super Hornet -> Advanced Super Hornet -> AMCA flow more seamlessly from a development-to-manufacturing perspective.

This is an aggressive pitch that amplifies the sort of deep dive that competitors for the MIIF deal could be willing to put on the table. It also has several implications on the dynamics of partnerships and indigenous development from the ground up for a programme that will be infinitely more complex than not just a flyaway deal — but also the aborted M-MRCA.



http://www.livefistdefence.com/2016/11/boeing-unveils-an-amca-sweetener.html

I am all for a Boeing-TATA Aero tie up, LEEEETTTTSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

ADA can skip HAL and go with TATA Aero, LEEEETTTTSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
 
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only if this would have happened 5 years ago. there is still hope for it happen now, but what a waste of precious time.

I would like to see a deal for 128 Advance Super Hornets

64 made in the U.S and 64 made in India, and then use that facility in India to start making AMCA based around the engine and avionics of the ASH.
 
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i think they are manufacturing them for the canada , whose entire airforce relies solely on the f-18 super hornet . even those being make in india .
 
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ADA can skip HAL and go with TATA Aero,
:tup:

I suppose a clear roadmap for AMCA and selection of a private partner by ADA at this very juncture of design along with some minimum commitment from IAF will go a long way in success of project. Also if IAF can become a partner in project (by allocating some part of its budget to program), they will get a realistic product at the end, where the user was involved at all stages of product development.
 
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Why will Boeing wants AMCA to be produced at a place where it has significant stake? Even 100% owned Indian firms can build it. Secondly there is no chances of HAL giving up on AMCA.

Most importantly dont trust the American companies on ToT until unless they get us approval from their Congress.
 
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i think they are manufacturing them for the canada , whose entire airforce relies solely on the f-18 super hornet . even those being make in india .

Canada uses CF-188s, Hornets not Super-Hornets.
The SH could win the replacement program underway though.

Good day to you, Tay.
 
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I still think the concept of AMCA is very wrong.....We already have too many twin engine aircrafts...we need a proper single engine multirole aircraft. Yeah...the twin engine has more survivability but cost wise and maintenance wise the single engine is a better choice.
 
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