Boeing signs $1 b deal with HAL

[Astra]

NEW DELHI: The U.S. Aircraft major, Boeing, has signed a memorandum of understanding with state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to source sub-systems for fighter aircraft and helicopters.Boeing has signed a ten-year MoU to bring over $1 billion of aerospace manufacturing work to the country. The agreement was signed here by HAL Chairman Ashok Baweja and President and CEO of Boeing Integrated Defence Systems, Jim Albaugh.

“This is a significant step that opens up new avenues and areas of cooperation. HAL and Indian industry will gain from this long-term business arrangement in terms of technology upgrade, while Boeing can look forward to a reliable source for its product requirements,” observed Mr. Baweja.

Boeing said that in addition to offering competitive rates for the products it wanted HAL to join hands in “seeking recognition by the Union Government for the value of the work packages and technology transfers in support of credits against existing or future offset obligations.” In other words, Boeing is preparing for the huge multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) tender and is hoping the contract given to HAL would be counted as off-set.

The Rs. 42,000 crore MRCA tender has stipulated 50 per cent in direct off-sets. This means that half of the value of the contract should be sourced from India. At present, only direct off-sets are allowed. Boeing along with some other companies is hoping that crediting of off-sets would also be allowed when the Defence Procurement Policy 2006 is reviewed.

Mr. Albaugh denied that the MoU was linked to HAL persuading the Government to consider this contract as off-sets and said work worth $20 million is likely to be given to HAL straightaway. The attempt to involve HAL was part of Boeing’s plan to involve the Indian industry and the official promised more announcements regarding tie ups with the Indian private sector in the near future.

 

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HAL will prodiuce spare parts for F-16 Falcons/F18 Hornets. In future it might manufactue parts for F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning.

 

[KENT]

HAL will prodiuce spare parts for F-16 Falcons/F18 Hornets. In future it might manufactue parts for F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning.

Man, pls read the posted article correctly before fantasizing. Where does it mentioned that deal will bring us licence production capability of F-16 or F-18, since they have'nt shortlisted as yet and will not get shortlisted for ever, let alone f-22 and f-35. Boeing just extending its business in india, as India in coming years will be lucrative market of aviation industry because of its flurishing economic boom.

 

[Astra]

Man, pls read the posted article correctly before fantasizing. Where does it mentioned that deal will bring us licence production capability of F-16 or F-18, since they have'nt shortlisted as yet and will not get shortlisted for ever, let alone f-22 and f-35. Boeing just extending its business in india, as India in coming years will be lucrative market of aviation industry because of its flurishing economic boom.

Hey kent, there is no fantacy stuff here.
1. I said spare parts for F-18s, not licenced production of the entire plane.
2. I added "May be in future" for f-22.
3. I should have posted the below article also.

Read the article here:
Mangalorean.Com- Serving Mangaloreans Around The World!

...contet....

The pact covers the manufacture by HAL of sub-systems for a wide range of Boeing products like the F/A-18 Super Hornet combat jet, the CH-47F heavy-lift Chinook helicopter and the P-8A multi-mission maritime aircraft the company hopes to sell to the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Indian Navy.

 

[KENT]

Hey kent, there is no fantacy stuff here.
1. I said spare parts for F-18s, not licenced production of the entire plane.
2. I added "May be in future" for f-22.
3. I should have posted the below article also.

Read the article here:
Mangalorean.Com- Serving Mangaloreans Around The World!

...contet....

The pact covers the manufacture by HAL of sub-systems for a wide range of Boeing products like the F/A-18 Super Hornet combat jet, the CH-47F heavy-lift Chinook helicopter and the P-8A multi-mission maritime aircraft the company hopes to sell to the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Indian Navy.

Before evaluating any piece of article, kindly have broad thinking on it.
1) How does spare parts of F-18 will be going to produced in future, Has projects in association with it is materlised? What makes you think that IAF would go for F-18? When they have giant Su-30MKI in large number.
2) F-22, don’t take even a name of it, How does F-22 comes into picture? What makes you think that? After all it is the product of Lockheed Martin. When India have inked a landmark pack with Russia for PAK-FA and subsequent development of homegrown MCA. Hypothetically even if in future Boeing was taken over by an Indian aerospace companies or any other Indian empire, US will not let Indian to lay their hands on F-22, let alone its license its production.
3) For the piece of below mentioned article, the word “hope” is specially mentioned in it and it signify a lot as far as geopolitics is concerned as well as other products like Chinooks and P-3 orian, they don’t even fit into Indian armed forces doctrine.

 

[Astra]

I did not expect you to give such a reply.

Before evaluating any piece of article, kindly have broad thinking on it.
1) How does spare parts of F-18 will be going to produced in future, Has projects in association with it is materlised? What makes you think that IAF would go for F-18? When they have giant Su-30MKI in large number.

Article/I never said that IAF will go for F-18. It like outsourcing the manufacturing of few spare parts to reduce the manufacturing cost.
FYI: F-18 is included in MRCA RFP.

2) F-22, don’t take even a name of it, How does F-22 comes into picture? What makes you think that? After all it is the product of Lockheed Martin. When India have inked a landmark pack with Russia for PAK-FA and subsequent development of homegrown MCA. Hypothetically even if in future Boeing was taken over by an Indian aerospace companies or any other Indian empire, US will not let Indian to lay their hands on F-22, let alone its license its production..

Relax, F-22 is not in picture at all. I said "May be" in future. As business grows, there is a possibility that they outsource manufacturing more parts in future. FYI, F-22 raptor is a Joint Venture between Boeing/LM.

Please understand my reponse before replying. I dont know from where you read the procurement and licence production of these planes.

Try to understand, asking HAL to manufacture a few spare parts does not mean thay they are given the entire Technology to India or are giving Licence Production.

I only hope you understand the article and my responce before talking about licence production and procurement, which are not mentioned anywhere.

 

[KENT]

I did not expect you to give such a reply.

Before evaluating any piece of article, kindly have broad thinking on it.
1) How does spare parts of F-18 will be going to produced in future, Has projects in association with it is materlised? What makes you think that IAF would go for F-18? When they have giant Su-30MKI in large number.

Article/I never said that IAF will go for F-18. It like outsourcing the manufacturing of few spare parts to reduce the manufacturing cost.
FYI: F-18 is included in MRCA RFP.

2) F-22, don’t take even a name of it, How does F-22 comes into picture? What makes you think that? After all it is the product of Lockheed Martin. When India have inked a landmark pack with Russia for PAK-FA and subsequent development of homegrown MCA. Hypothetically even if in future Boeing was taken over by an Indian aerospace companies or any other Indian empire, US will not let Indian to lay their hands on F-22, let alone its license its production..

Relax, F-22 is not in picture at all. I said "May be" in future. As business grows, there is a possibility that they outsource manufacturing more parts in future. FYI, F-22 raptor is a Joint Venture between Boeing/LM.

Please understand my reponse before replying. I dont know from where you read the procurement and licence production of these planes.

Try to understand, asking HAL to manufacture a few spare parts does not mean thay they are given the entire Technology to India or are giving Licence Production.

I only hope you understand the article and my responce before talking about licence production and procurement, which are not mentioned anywhere.

First of all don't mistake Fighter planes for commercial airliners. In the past as well HAL had got an contract for manufacuring of some spare parts from Airbus. Spare parts production of F-18 or may hypothetically spare parts of super-sensitive F-22 or F-35 in future is not identical to spare parts production of commercial airliners.

Some of close ally from NATO have that privilage to produce some key avinonics of F-35, but that doesn't mean India is so much fortunate enough to have such distinction. In your previous post as well, go back and read properly regarding partial form of article, as final conclusion of article was that unless and until India don't publically inked an contract for F-18 or helicopter likes Chinooks as well as Maritime survillience aircrft P3c Orian,until then there is no room for spare parts production as Boeing hope so in future.

I repeat Spare parts Production of fighter planes, helicopters as well survillience aircraft meant for armed forces is completely different ball game as compared to Commerical airliners meant for Travelling and that needs strong Geo-political influence as well dedicated diplomatic relationship.