BN signed a contract for two more Type 053H3 frigates, including ex- Putian (pennant number 523)

[ghost250]

https://www.janes.com/article/93346...4i5Tko9dNOxdcWThk5U0HRa6OrsauAitjCbLqAvAqb_8k

Two Type 053H3 (Jiangwei II)-class frigates decommissioned by the China's People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) have been handed over to the Bangladeshi Navy (BN).

The BN said in a statement that the 2,200-ton diesel-powered ships, formerly known as Jiaxing (pennant number 521) and Lianyungang (522), were transferred in a ceremony held on 18 December at the Shenjia Shipyard in Shanghai after being overhauled.

The 112 m-long and 12.4 m-wide vessels, which will be renamed BNS Umer Farroq (also spelled Umar Farooq ) and BNS Abu Ubaidah once in BN service, were set to head to Bangladesh following the handover ceremony.

Pennant numbers F 16 and F 19 have been painted on the hulls of the ships, which can reach a top speed of 24 n miles, according to the BN.

According to Chinese media, the BN procured the two ex-PLAN frigates under a deal signed in June 2018.

In PLAN service the primary armament of the ships consisted of a twin 100 mm gun, eight YJ-83 anti-ship missiles fired from slant-mounted containerised launchers, an octuple launcher for HHQ-7 short-range surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), and four twin 37 mm gun mountings. None of these have been removed, although the YJ-83 and HHQ-7 systems may have been modified in line with the C-802A and FM-90N export versions, particularly with regard to the missiles supplied.

In September 2019 the BN signed a contract for two more Type 053H3 frigates, including ex- Putian (pennant number 523), which is expected to be renamed BNS Khalid Bin Walid once in BN service.

 

[ghost250]

@LKJ86

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

https://www.janes.com/article/93346...4i5Tko9dNOxdcWThk5U0HRa6OrsauAitjCbLqAvAqb_8k

Two Type 053H3 (Jiangwei II)-class frigates decommissioned by the China's People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) have been handed over to the Bangladeshi Navy (BN).

The BN said in a statement that the 2,200-ton diesel-powered ships, formerly known as Jiaxing (pennant number 521) and Lianyungang (522), were transferred in a ceremony held on 18 December at the Shenjia Shipyard in Shanghai after being overhauled.

The 112 m-long and 12.4 m-wide vessels, which will be renamed BNS Umer Farroq (also spelled Umar Farooq ) and BNS Abu Ubaidah once in BN service, were set to head to Bangladesh following the handover ceremony.

Pennant numbers F 16 and F 19 have been painted on the hulls of the ships, which can reach a top speed of 24 n miles, according to the BN.

According to Chinese media, the BN procured the two ex-PLAN frigates under a deal signed in June 2018.

In PLAN service the primary armament of the ships consisted of a twin 100 mm gun, eight YJ-83 anti-ship missiles fired from slant-mounted containerised launchers, an octuple launcher for HHQ-7 short-range surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), and four twin 37 mm gun mountings. None of these have been removed, although the YJ-83 and HHQ-7 systems may have been modified in line with the C-802A and FM-90N export versions, particularly with regard to the missiles supplied.

In September 2019 the BN signed a contract for two more Type 053H3 frigates, including ex- Putian (pennant number 523), which is expected to be renamed BNS Khalid Bin Walid once in BN service.

So 4 type 053s and 2 Type 054s?

 

[ghost250]

So 4 type 053s and 2 Type 054s?

4 type053h3s r confimred but type 054 isnt(yet)...

 

[UKBengali]

What is this?

BD just keeps buying more and more 2nd hand frigates from China?
Next-gen frigates should be rolling out in a few years and I am confused.
Current fleet totally outclasses Myanmar and even with these two additions it will not make any difference to balance of power with India.

@Bilal9 - Bhai any ideas what BN is thinking here?

 

[Beast]

What is this?

BD just keeps buying more and more 2nd hand frigates from China?
Next-gen frigates should be rolling out in a few years and I am confused.
Current fleet totally outclasses Myanmar and even with these two additions it will not make any difference to balance of power with India.

@Bilal9 - Bhai any ideas what BN is thinking here?

Outclass? Myanmar Navy is not idling around.. They just inducted a Kilo. You never known what are they going to buy next.. I bet the sea overlap around India Ocean between Bangladesh and Myanmar contains rich oil resources. Bangladesh are just preparing for the future.

 

[UKBengali]

Outclass? Myanmar Navy is not idling around.. They just inducted a Kilo. You never known what are they going to buy next.. I bet the sea overlap around India Ocean between Bangladesh and Myanmar contains rich oil resources. Bangladesh are just preparing for the future.

One kilo against 2 subs already with BD.

BD surface fleet is already overwhelmingly more powerful than Myanmar.

I think that just buying more and more 2nd hand ships from China will just end up being a logistical nightmare and very expensive to maintain.

Better just wait a few more years for the next-gen frigates to come online

 

[MINN]

One kilo against 2 subs already with BD.

BD surface fleet is already overwhelmingly more powerful than Myanmar.

I think that just buying more and more 2nd hand ships from China will just end up being a logistical nightmare and very expensive to maintain.

Better just wait a few more years for the next-gen frigates to come online

Kilo is better than BN Mings and It's way quieter than most subs out there. The kilo also has Klub-S. can your Mings compete with this one Kilo?

 

[UKBengali]

Kilo is better than BN Mings and It's way quieter than most subs out there. The kilo also has Klub-S. can your Mings compete with this one Kilo?

Mings and the rest of the fleet fitted with sonars and torpedos will sink the Kilo at the start of hostilities.

That Kilo is a 1980s model and they were not that quiet and so no issues for the modern anti-sub equipment that BD warships and soon helicopters carry to detect and then destroy it.

As an example BN has 2 of the AW159 ASW helicopters on order - they carry the following to destroy subs:

Sting Ray Torpedo and Mk 11 depth charges.

It can of course do a lot more like destroy surface targets up to 1,000 tonnes.

India gives Myanmar a 1980s submarine and BN just goes and buys a modern Western helicopter optimised to destroy submarines.

 

[The Ronin]

Kilo is better than BN Mings and It's way quieter than most subs out there. The kilo also has Klub-S. can your Mings compete with this one Kilo?

The Kilo you got is a Soviet Project 877 submarine which is a bit noisier than Ming actually. And it's not clear if your Kilo have Klub-S or not. And it's still haven't achieved IOC yet.

https://fas.org/irp/agency/oni/pla-navy.pdf

I think that just buying more and more 2nd hand ships from China will just end up being a logistical nightmare and very expensive to maintain.

What logistical nightmare and expensive maintenance? Most of our frigates are Chinese and there's already two Type 53 variants exists in our fleet. Nothing's new here. BNS Osman will retire and two Hamilton class might be transferred to BCG. So those will be big boost for Navy.

 

[UKBengali]

What logistical nightmare and expensive maintenance? Most of our frigates are Chinese and there's already two Type 53 variants exists in our fleet. Nothing's new here. BNS Osman will retire and two Hamilton class might be transferred to BCG. So those will be big boost for Navy.

Yes it will be common with the existing two Type-53 but why keep buying so many second hand ships?
Next-gen frigates will start rolling out early next decade. What is the purpose of these ships as BN totally dominates MN?

 

[The Ronin]

Yes it will be common with the existing two Type-53 but why keep buying so many second hand ships?
Next-gen frigates will start rolling out early next decade. What is the purpose of these ships as BN totally dominates MN?

Didn't i say before navy wants more time? CDDL is not ready yet. The design hasn't been selected yet. And it will take at least two years to build a new frigate. How do you say with utmost confidence that next-gen frigates will start rolling out early next decade? Even if they do it will take time to build and commission six new frigates. According to local pages navy might buy more, bigger second hand frigates and order two new Type 54As. So far only three of our frigates have point ADS. So getting all frigate with ADS isn't a bad idea. Getting second hand frigates helps to build/increase and strengthen the fleet quickly while BN can concentrate on next gen frigate easily. It looks like six new frigates is not the original requirement. And what's with the satisfaction about dominance on Myanmar? They are not the only navy here in BoB.

 

[UKBengali]

Didn't i say before navy wants more time? CDDL is not ready yet. The design hasn't been selected yet. And it will take at least two years to build a new frigate. How do you say with utmost confidence that next-gen frigates will start rolling out early next decade? Even if they do it will take time to build and commission six new frigates. According to local pages navy might buy more, bigger second hand frigates and order two new Type 54As. So far only three of our frigates have point ADS. So getting all frigate with ADS isn't a bad idea. Getting second hand frigates helps to build/increase and strengthen the fleet quickly while BN can concentrate on next gen frigate easily. It looks like six new frigates is not the original requirement. And what's with the satisfaction about dominance on Myanmar? They are not the only navy here in BoB.

Yes I know you said that but makes no difference to my argument.

Next-gen frigates are expected to roll out early next decade and so we need to stick with that. Even if delayed till 2025 what exactly is going to happen to BD's position via it's neighbours. Myanmar is not going anywhere up soon(got Kilo from India worse than the Type-35G that BD has) and India is on another level.

I already mentioned that these will make no difference to India as they are currently building stuff like this:

These are 7400 tonnes in displacement and one of them probably has more firepower as all the frigates and corvettes in BN combined.
What exactly difference are these two extra Type-53H3 going to make in confrontation to India?


Tell you the truth I was not exactly thrilled when they brought the original 2 but somehow was persuaded that they would be good to fill the stop-gap as the next-gen frigates were delayed. Another 2 is just ridiculous.
These ships will just burn BN's resources but I do not make the decision here.

 

[Avicenna]

The Kilo you got is a Soviet Project 877 submarine which is a bit noisier than Ming actually. And it's not clear if your Kilo have Klub-S or not. And it's still haven't achieved IOC yet.

https://fas.org/irp/agency/oni/pla-navy.pdf

What logistical nightmare and expensive maintenance? Most of our frigates are Chinese and there's already two Type 53 variants exists in our fleet. Nothing's new here. BNS Osman will retire and two Hamilton class might be transferred to BCG. So those will be big boost for Navy.

Alhamdulilah.

Very happy and surprised to see the two additional H3's.

@UKBengali

You have to walk before you can run. By buying these additon -H3's BN can operate and train more personnel quicker and get experience faster than waiting for more modern (and more expensive) types while taking its time with the indigenous Frigate program.

Keep in mind what a leap this will be in BN capabilities compared to the present and certainly compared to 10 years ago.

Also keep in mind, these Chinese platforms are relatively new and can always be upgraded with Western equipment (such as the -H2's and perhaps even eventually new Western ASMs)

But taken overall, this means BN is serious about upgrading its capabilities and in a time sensitive manner.

Very excellent news!

 

[UKBengali]

Alhamdulilah.

Very happy and surprised to see the two additional H3's.

@UKBengali

You have to walk before you can run. By buying these additon -H3's BN can operate and train more personnel quicker and get experience faster than waiting for more modern (and more expensive) types while taking its time with the indigenous Frigate program.

Keep in mind what a leap this will be in BN capabilities compared to the present and certainly compared to 10 years ago.

Also keep in mind, these Chinese platforms are relatively new and can always be upgraded with Western equipment (such as the -H2's and perhaps even eventually new Western ASMs)

But taken overall, this means BN is serious about upgrading its capabilities and in a time sensitive manner.

Very excellent news!

I get your thinking but this is what BN now has before these ships as regards warships with new sensor and missile systems:

1. 1 * Ulsan class frigate
2. 2 * Type-53H3 frigates
3. 4 * Type-056 corvettes.

These are plenty of ships that will allow BN to train enough personnel to get ready to operate the next-gen frigates.

BD is not exactly flush with cash and I just see this as a waste of resources. Yes they are cheap to buy but as they are old they will cost a fair amount to run.

Also by buying these old warships there is the danger of taking the focus out of the next-gen frigate program. All efforts must be placed on finalising a design and then getting the facilities ready, rather than wasting time and resources on ships that are no match for what India is building right now.