Bloomberg: China risks repeating the mistakes of the Soviet Union in the confrontation with the United States

[CriticalThinker02]

Indians have been controlled by the west through the media. In fact, Indians and Chinese are both challengers of the old order. Indians are not the beneficiaries of the old order, but the exploited. It is in the best interest of Indians to destroy the old order and rebuild the new order together with the Chinese.
We also agreed that Indians should join the BRICs and SCO. But the brains of these Indians are full of water. It's extraordinary that they went to the border to provoke us.
A group of slaves did not want to save themselves, even volunteered to die for their master. wtf!

If you want to understand the subcontinent, then you must understand it through history, who were the governors of the subcontinent prior to the coming of the British for a thousand years, who were the ones who defeated the mongols and stacked their heads as a pyramid at the frontiers as a warning to not enter the subcontinent again?, who were the ones who built the taj mahal?, the current manifestation that is India are clearly not, they will never rise to the old order.

 

[tower9]

Chinese people haven't had a power outage for 30 years. Why did they suddenly cut power in 2021? China has the largest coal reserves in the world, and its reserves are four times that of the USA(the 2nd reserves). Why is China unwilling to reopen coal mines in Shanxi Province?
Let me tell you. When the USA completes the conditions given to them by China, China will suddenly have no shortage of coal.

So you are saying this was planned in order to disrupt the factories and supply chains?
Wouldn’t it make China seem like an unreliable supplier and cause many supply chains to pull out and relocate to other countries?

 

[bilibili]

Are you saying Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan and UK won't fight you?

UK history has always been a country only know betrayal, true ally UK is only interest, EU folks know this.

Vietnam CP relationship with CCP top is not worse that outsiders expected, if she have a choice between US, China, she will choose China, why? ask what you did 1959 - 1970.

Japan, forget you atomic bomb her? she will remember what you did to them all her life, really believe Japan would fight for her real enemy?

Taiwan, lol, forget it, Asia’s shame, better to count on S Korea than to count on Taiwan fight for you.

So why I still keep Australia and India in name list because they have no diplomacy brain, can't predict what they would do if you mislead them.

 

[MH.Yang]

So you are saying this was planned in order to disrupt the factories and supply chains?
Wouldn’t it make China seem like an unreliable supplier and cause many supply chains to pull out and relocate to other countries?

1. This is just my personal guess.
2. No matter what China did, western countries wanted to transfer the supply chain, and they all failed.
3. Capital is a monster chasing interests. In this epidemic, China has proved its stability and reliability. At present, the inflow of foreign capital in the Chinese market has ranked first in the world. Enterprises all over the world are accelerating their transfer to China rather than leaving.
4. China has a sound industrial chain, top infrastructure and logistics, the world's largest market and the largest number of industrial workers. Enterprises in China can get the lowest production cost, while enterprises leaving China will face the cruel competition of Chinese enterprises.

 

[MH.Yang]

UK history has always been a country only know betrayal, true ally UK is only interest, EU folks know this.

Vietnam CP relationship with CCP top is not worse that outsiders expected, if she have a choice between US, China, she will choose China, why? ask what you did 1959 - 1970.

Japan, forget you atomic bomb her? she will remember what you did to them all her life, really believe Japan would fight for her real enemy?

Taiwan, lol, forget it, Asia’s shame, better to count on S Korea than to count on Taiwan fight for you.

So why I still keep Australia and India in name list because they have no diplomacy brain, can't predict what they would do if you mislead them.

Like all colonies, Japan is looking forward to national independence. They will support the USA and urge the USA to go to war in Taiwan or the Korean Peninsula. But the Japanese will not be involved in direct conflict. They will support the USA in logistics.
Once the USA weakens, Japan will realize national normalization. Japan is bound to turn against the USA. They will educate the next generation of Americans to throw nuclear bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the USA plunders Toshiba's semiconductor technology, and the USA forces Japan to sign the Plaza Accord, etc. The Japanese will blame the USA for all the problems. Just like Ukraine turned into Anti Russian propaganda. For economic reasons, Japan will gradually approach China. Economic relations determine political relations, and political relations determine military relations.
Vietnam really won't join the US camp. They may even join the Chinese camp. The VCP is very much like CCP. They are very realistic, don't expect them to bleed for the USA.
South Korea is half Vietnam and half Japan. They will not participate in the war either. We know these East Asian neighbors too well. They will provide logistical support, and then go to the Korean border to shoot a few shots, and then find trouble for the Japanese, and then there is enough reason to withdraw from the battlefield.
Taiwan will indeed join the war for the United States, but if they start the war, it will be over. Taiwan's army is full of CCP spies. After retirement, Taiwan's senior generals will go to the mainland to attend the CPPCC meeting and receive CCP's pension. It's a miracle that they can last 48 hours.

India is a speculator. They want China and the USA to end at the same time. Moreover, the Sino Indian border limits the scale of the war. Once China and the USA go to war, India's greatest possibility is to take the opportunity to attack Pakistan.

I said before that the aukus and Canada that the USA can only rely. In fact, Australia also is not very reliable. Australia is a resource exporter. In fact, they do not have a competitive relationship with China. Moreover, once China controls the sea power, Australia's fate will be controlled by China. When China controls the sea, Australia will betray Anglo Saxon.

 

[tower9]

1. This is just my personal guess.
2. No matter what China did, western countries wanted to transfer the supply chain, and they all failed.
3. Capital is a monster chasing interests. In this epidemic, China has proved its stability and reliability. At present, the inflow of foreign capital in the Chinese market has ranked first in the world. Enterprises all over the world are accelerating their transfer to China rather than leaving.
4. China has a sound industrial chain, top infrastructure and logistics, the world's largest market and the largest number of industrial workers. Enterprises in China can get the lowest production cost, while enterprises leaving China will face the cruel competition of Chinese enterprises.

Well, slowing down your production and failing to deliver supplies confounds all of that.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

So you are saying this was planned in order to disrupt the factories and supply chains?
Wouldn’t it make China seem like an unreliable supplier and cause many supply chains to pull out and relocate to other countries?

Do they have the power to do so?

Where are they gonna go?

Vietnam that still relies on imported Chinese parts and has companies fleeing their COVID outbreak?

India that also relies on imported parts and had a massive COVID outbreak plus terrible labor relations, tons of red tape/corruption and has blackouts not once every few months but once every few days?

Rest of SEA that has similar problems as Vietnam?

No, just like when Chinese producers raised prices they're going to just eat the cost or pass it on to consumers. They won't switch.

Well, slowing down your production and failing to deliver supplies confounds all of that.

No, exact opposite. It is a little flex to show them who has the actual economic muscle and they can't do anything about it. How come they didn't switch immediately? Because everywhere else is worse and it'll cost them millions in auditing fees alone.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Do they have the power to do so?

Where are they gonna go?

Vietnam that still relies on imported Chinese parts and has companies fleeing their COVID outbreak?

No, just like when Chinese producers raised prices they're going to just eat the cost or pass it on to consumers. They won't switch.

We only rely on CN rare earth.

when Chinese producers raised prices due to 25% tariff or high labour cost, people will stop buying CN products. Evergrande collapsed just bcs people stop buying houses after they keep raising the prices.

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Imports of non-tariffed items from China have begun to pick up in recent months, after a global downturn in trade triggered by the Covid-19 pandemic. Even so, imports from China overall were at $472 billion for the 12 months ended March 31, compared to a peak of $539 billion in 2018.


“The trade war has had a more enduring negative impact [on Chinese imports] than the pandemic,” said Adam Slater, the lead economist for Oxford Economics. “The effects of the pandemic are starting to wear off, but the longer-term impact of the trade war remains.”

U.S. Tariffs Drive Drop in Chinese Imports

Levies now cover about $250 billion a year in goods—down from $370 billion—as U.S. companies shift purchases elsewhere Containers at a port in Lianyungang, China. Other nations are benefitting as fewer Chinese goods come into the U.S. PHOTO: HECTOR RETAMAL/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES By...

defence.pk

 

[fallstuff]

Chinese people haven't had a power outage for 30 years. Why did they suddenly cut power in 2021? China has the largest coal reserves in the world, and its reserves are four times that of the USA(the 2nd reserves). Why is China unwilling to reopen coal mines in Shanxi Province?
Let me tell you. When the USA completes the conditions given to them by China, China will suddenly have no shortage of coal.

Dear CCP bot, when you lie at least have a semblance of truth in it to make it truthiness ! You are far worst liar than some Indians on this forum. USA has the largest Coal Reserve in the world, Almost twice the Chinese Reserve and better quality.

Countries with the biggest coal reserves

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[Viva_Viet]

UK history has always been a country only know betrayal, true ally UK is only interest, EU folks know this.

Vietnam CP relationship with CCP top is not worse that outsiders expected, if she have a choice between US, China, she will choose China, why? ask what you did 1959 - 1970.

Japan, forget you atomic bomb her? she will remember what you did to them all her life, really believe Japan would fight for her real enemy?

Taiwan, lol, forget it, Asia’s shame, better to count on S Korea than to count on Taiwan fight for you.

So why I still keep Australia and India in name list because they have no diplomacy brain, can't predict what they would do if you mislead them.

No, we don't support CN. We want CN collapse, so No one can stop us to unify sub Mekong region.

CN begged help from daddy US for Intel from US's psy bird to attack VN in 1979 . Thats VN want CN collapse bcs CN always willing to be US's cannon fodder.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Vietnam really won't join the US camp. They may even join the Chinese camp. The VCP is very much like CCP. They are very realistic, don't expect them to bleed for the USA.

We just sit and watch CN or US collapse first.

If CN collapse: VN will take back all islands in SCS(east VN sea) from CN-TW-PH-Malay plus restart the plan to uify sub Mekong region

If US collapse:
VN will take back all islands in SCS(east VN sea) from TW-PH-Malay (except CN) plus restart the plan to uify sub Mekong region

WHo control 80% of SCS(east VN sea) will control the economy of East and S.E Asia

 

[MH.Yang]

Dear CCP bot, when you lie at least have a semblance of truth in it to make it truthiness ! You are far worst liar than some Indians on this forum. USA has the largest Coal Reserve in the world, Almost twice the Chinese Reserve and better quality.

Countries with the biggest coal reserves

Discover insights into the world's biggest coal reserves by country with Mining Technology. Delve into informative features highlighting the leading coal

www.mining-technology.com

I re google the data. You're right. Sorry, I didn't use google to verify the data in my memory before replying.
China is the world's largest coal production in 2016, not its reserves. The USA has the largest coal reserves in the world, and China's reserves are 60% of that of the USA. China's coal is mainly used for power generation, while industrial coal is mainly imported from Russia, Indonesia, Australia and Canada.
Because China's coal quality is not good enough.

 

[antonius123]

I agree the arms race is focused on the us. I love the naivety of the modern fundu , this is what happens when one learns history from social media!

China is a communist country and they never declare the correct military budget, the budget presented to the world is probably 1/10 of the money they spend . Here is the detail

China is building a battleship a day , 5th and 6th generation aircraft and countless hours of research with hilariously low defence budget. These two numbers dont Add up. The Soviet Unions defense budget was also hilariously low but they had 25000 tanks in Europe 5 times more than all of nato. It’s all in how you account for stuff

k

Recent China's military budget is second largest after that of US.
In the meantime their cost of r&d is significantly lower; that explain why this already huge budget they can come up with so many battleship.

 

[Khan vilatey]

Recent China's military budget is second largest after that of US.
In the meantime their cost of r&d is significantly lower; that explain why this already huge budget they can come up with so many battleship.

There may also be an underground budget. As you said they are building a ship a day

k

 

[Michael Corleone]

Bruh if 1$ buys one missile in US, it buys China 10
Wtf are these guys on about. Except for the debt based economy that China should be careful with, there’s no reason why China will fall behind in an arms race with US.
Also let China arm Pakistan with nuclear submarines and see US scream foul