Blatant & gratuitous insult of Islam by Hindu intellectual

[jamahir]

That is in fact your job. Rather than waste time on a Pakistani forum, go and save your people from the rss.

Point noted.

trumpet of war. civil war.

OK.

 

[El Sidd]

OK.

It's most definitely not.

 

[PakFactor]

Just like to watch them squirm and concoct these gems to excuse their failures in Afghanistan.

You should be given the Nishan-e-Haider just for sitting through these videos. Lol

 

[jamahir]

It's most definitely not.

Well, let's see when the promised civil war comes. We will cross that bridge when we come to it.

 

[El Sidd]

Well, let's see when the promised civil war comes. We will cross that bridge when we come to it.

That's manly.

After years of preaching civil war in countries further away, you would abandon your own at first sight of unrest.

And seriously where are you gonna go from Madras?

 

[jamahir]

That's manly.

After years of preaching civil war in countries further away, you would abandon your own at first sight of unrest.

And seriously where are you gonna go from Madras?

I have said before that any Hindu-Muslim "civil war" will be a Rwanda-style genocide. You want that ? The idea is to avoid that via some political arrangement.

It is easy sitting outside India and lecturing Indian Muslims. How is it going in India-administrated Kashmir ?

 

[PakFactor]

I have said before that any Hindu-Muslim "civil war" will be a Rwanda-style genocide. You want that ? The idea is to avoid that via some political arrangement.

It is easy sitting in India and lecturing Indian Muslims. How is it going in India-administrated Kashmir ?

Its going to happen either way, 1st there will be population control which is already in the works, and 2nd genocide to make you guys a fraction of what you are.

 

[jamahir]

Its going to happen either way, 1st there will be population control which is already in the works, and 2nd genocide to make you guys a fraction of what you are.

200 million Muslims in India. Even a drastic population control measure will take one generation, which is what, 25 years ? Events in the world will take more importance by then. Whether political, environmental or technological.

 

[PakFactor]

200 million Muslims in India. Even a drastic population control measure will take one generation, which is what, 25 years ? Events in the world will take more importance by then. Whether political, environmental or technological.

You are thinking with blinders over your eyes in hopes that things don’t turn out for the worst.

Those other events are secondary for RSS/BJP the government can handle that at its own leisure, the Nazi Regime were busy managing the country and the SS busy eliminating the Jews. No country thinks on a single track mind.

 

[jamahir]

You are thinking with blinders over your eyes in hopes that things don’t turn out for the worst.

I am hoping, yes.

the Nazi Regime were busy managing the country and the SS busy eliminating the Jews.

That is true enough.

 

[jamahir]

Nothing to do with Islamic civilisation, which has historically lead to the ruin of all high culture (see Gandhara in Pakistan for example)

Molenbeek, London, Paris, these places have been turned into sh*tholes by Muslims due to their sociobioligical tendencies.

But there was the Islamic Golden Age which led to Renaissance and later the Industrial Age in Europe.

 

[JackFell]

But there was the Islamic Golden Age which led to Renaissance and later the Industrial Age in Europe.

The so-called "Islamic Golden Age" was just the creation of Jewish scholars who were jealous of European Christian civilisation and its achievements and so conjured up this mythical Golden Age which actually never existed, it was just Persians discovering ancient Greek texts.

Nothing much was actually invented during this alleged Golden Age, much like movies made today that glorify non-existent places like Wakanda to make blacks feel better about themselves.

 

[El Sidd]

I have said before that any Hindu-Muslim "civil war" will be a Rwanda-style genocide.

I don't have to entertain your fantasies. The war i am referring to is what is happening in Assam and Mizoram.

You want that ?

No sane person would wish for a neighbour whose house is on fire.

The idea is to avoid that via some political arrangement.

It is easy sitting outside India and lecturing Indian Muslims.

just as it is easy for you to support civil war in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and Venezuela.

How is it going in India-administrated Kashmir ?

Like any other territory under hostile occupation

 

[El Sidd]

Nothing to do with Islamic civilisation, which has historically lead to the ruin of all high culture (see Gandhara in Pakistan for example)

Gandhara was already a ruin before Islam came along.

The high culture you are talking about is still apparent as concentration of human societies east of Saraswati have evolved beyond concept of caste or color.

 

[jamahir]

The so-called "Islamic Golden Age" was just the creation of Jewish scholars who were jealous of European Christian civilisation and its achievements

Sorry what were the achievements of European Christian civilization ?

and so conjured up this mythical Golden Age which actually never existed

Why would Jewish scholars promote primarily Muslim achievements ?

it was just Persians discovering ancient Greek texts.

The Iranians were there but there were also other ethnicities. Take Ismail al-Jazari from Jazira area, Mesopotamia. He was an engineer but also a mechanical inventor. He is considered the father of robotics. I would say extend that to include modern automation including computers. Please read the Wikipedia entry for him.

For socio-economic things below is text from my thread, an article by an Indian Christian woman who married an Indian Muslim under Islamic marriage law because that better secured her future in case of divorce :

When we examine marriage laws in their historic context, it is interesting to note that the universally accepted notion that marriages are contractual rather than sacramental originates in Muslim law, which was accepted by the French law only in the 1800s and incorporated into the English law in the 1850s and became part of codified Hindu law as late as 1955.

And from another thread of mine, an article about Muslim leftist activism since the 1900s :

During the same period (1920s-30s), another (though lesser known) Islamic scholar in undivided India got smitten by the 1917 Russian revolution and Marxism.

Hafiz Rahman Sihwarwl saw Islam and Marxism sharing five elements in common: (1) prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes (2) organisation of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare (3) equality of opportunity for all human beings (4) priority of collective social interest over individual privilege and (5) prevention of the permanentising of class structure through social revolution.

The motivations for many of these themes he drew from the Qur’an, which he understood as seeking to create an economic order in which the rich pay excessive, though voluntary taxes (Zakat) to minimise differences in living standards.

In the areas that Sihwarwl saw Islam and communism diverge were Islam’s sanction of private ownership within certain limits, and in its refusal to recognise an absolutely classless basis of society.

He suggested that Islam, with its prohibition of the accumulation of wealth, is able to control the class structure through equality of opportunity.

Basically, both Sindhi and Sihwarwl had stumbled upon an Islamic concept of the social democratic welfare state.

So what does that tell us ?