Blast in Pune

[Valiant_Soul]

now to dubai he must have a flight or may be he's a 'Batman of the Present'
They have got no proof that he's in Pak

Just to clarify, there are also sea routes to Dubai and not just air. Intelligence reports are for the purpose intelligence report - they do not need to prove it in court about his hideout.

 

[DavyJones]

@Asim - you are not familiar with Pune yet you continue to go on and on about Blast at a Dhaba. Please refrain from ignorant comments.
The German bakery is frequented by foreign tourists (backpackers and people at Osho Ashram, Israelis as well) and young Indian students and professionals.

 

[notsuperstitious]

I love the way the GERMAN BAKERY got bombed is being played up. From the pictures, it was more or less nothing more than a dhaba style place, a very puny insignificant target when it comes to India-Pak affairs.

German bakery is indeed a fav place of foreigners because of its proximity to osho ashram and chabad house. Bombing it has one and only one significance - target tourists and hurt india economically, similar to the attack on leopold cafe, its not 5 star but always choc a block with foreigners , i was there last thursday.

The osho ashram was indeed recced by dawood gilani aka david coleman headley, the american of pakistani origin.

 

[Spring Onion]

Yeah but your guys are trying to play up that Foreigners died whereas its almost entirely possible they coincidentally were at the wrong, place at the wrong time.

NO Foreigner died in the incident. Now this sums up the typical Indian propaganda claiming foreigners were killed.

 

[DavyJones]

@Asim, Emo girl - there are many other ways he could have got to Karachi. There is a long border with Nepal and Bangladesh. It is very easy for Indians to get into Nepal and then take a flight to Pakistan. Smuggling across the BD border happens all the time. Stop fanning conspiracy theories with no basis.

 

[r3alist]

the timings of these bombs are unfortunate and suspicious.


you could easily take the view that these attacks were designed to derail pak/india talks.

therefore who would so such a thing?


i know indians will try through innuendo to implicate pakistan but thats beyond ludicrous, there is simply no way pakistan would support such a thing at such a time!!!


in fact if you look at the domestic situation many many indians are vehemently against talks with pakistan, they would have the greatest reason to derail the talks, not pakistan!

 

[DaRk WaVe]

@Asim, Emo girl - there are many other ways he could have got to Karachi. There is a long border with Nepal and Bangladesh. It is very easy for Indians to get into Nepal and then take a flight to Pakistan. Smuggling across the BD border happens all the time. Stop fanning conspiracy theories with no basis.

use of BD & nepal , your Agencies said he went Via Dubai, which is already explained by Asim how it can't happen

its your theory which has not base not ours

 

[DavyJones]

@Jana - many foreigners were injured . Fact is that there was confusion initially and some eye witnesses were saying that they took some foreigners to the hospital - hence the word that foreigners were killed. Police had cordoned off the area and since the Bakery is full of foreign tourists the press naturally assumed that foreigners were killed.
Now we know this was not the case. No Propoganda just initial confusion and the press looking for a meaty headline

 

[Valiant_Soul]

There may be many ways to flee out of India but very few to illegally enter Dubai and then too to illegally exit Dubai.

Oh yes, it must be a fortress. The words in bold is the answer to your argument.

Basically its conjecture till proper evidence and proper facts are presented. When you're accusing another country, calling off talks, and ultimately as we all know there will be a pussy footing drama of calling for war and then backing out... You need to come forward with better facts.

I again repeat, these are leads based on prima facie evidence...India has not come to the stage of accusation yet, unless you see an official Indian statement.

Either Bhatkal was an identified terrorist or India came to this conclusion within hours? If he was identified, then how did he exit India, Enter Dubai, exit Dubai and enter Pakistan. All countries where I know there is extensive checks for terrorists using World Check, OFAC amongst other local lists of money launderers, etc.

Are you suggesting that he can penetrate the borders of India but not of Pakistan or UAE? Or that no terrorist can penetrate through any border?

To claim that he did so, you're claiming that all these checks failed and they or someone from there were complicit in this attack on a dhaba.

Again the claims are yet to be made.

 

[fanboi]

@Jana - many foreigners were injured . Fact is that there was confusion initially and some eye witnesses were saying that they took some foreigners to the hospital - hence the word that foreigners were killed. Police had cordoned off the area and since the Bakery is full of foreign tourists the press naturally assumed that foreigners were killed.
Now we know this was not the case. No Propoganda just initial confusion and the press looking for a meaty headline

Blasphemy, everything the Indian Media has to say about Pakistan, whether it be true or not, is propaganda when it suits Pakistan.

 

[Valiant_Soul]

NO Foreigner died in the incident. Now this sums up the typical Indian propaganda claiming foreigners were killed.

Again this, just like the initial report of cylinder blast in place of bomb blast, was incorrect media report and not a CLAIM.

 

[Veer]

NO Foreigner died in the incident. Now this sums up the typical Indian propaganda claiming foreigners were killed.

It is amazing the Pakistani members are commenting as they have familiar to India more than Indians.

We always refrain from commenting on bomb blast in pakistan but these people poke their nose and spread their typical conspiracy theories at the time of tragedy.

If Indian put forward some theories it is understandable as they are angry and have affected.


Death, tears and agony in Pune hospitals
February 14th, 2010 - 3:12 pm ICT by IANS Tell a Friend -

Pune, Feb 14 (IANS) A German man frantically hunted for his wife while a group of students from Jharkhand mourned the death of three of their colleagues as hospitals here grappled Sunday with the horror of a deadly bombing that killed nine people and injured 57 people.

The German man looked agitated as he first visited the Sassoon General Hospital, whose mortuary is holding all the nine bodies, six of whom have been identified as Indians. Three others remain unidentified. Police believe that one of them, a woman, could be a foreigner.

The German refused to speak to journalists at the hospital complex, partly because he knew only a smattering of English and partly because he was desperate to go over to other hospitals to continue his search.

One of the senior doctors, Deepa Lad, said the state-owned Sassoon Hospital received 18 injured from the German Bakery Saturday evening, of whom two were discharged quickly.

Ten people were “discharged against medical advice” — an official euphemism for those who insist on leaving hospitals although doctors feel they need further treatment.

Six patients remain, including four Indians and one man each from Nepal and Taiwan.

Six of the dead were brought to the Sassoon Hospital. The bodies of three others who died in the privately-run Inlaks Budhrani Hospital were also shifted to the Sassoon Hospital.

“There are nine bodies in the mortuary,” said Lad. “The process of identification and post-mortem is on.”

The engineering students from Jharkhand complained that they were fed up with the procedural delays at the Sassoon Hospital, where three of their colleagues lay dead. Two of them were young women.

All of them were visiting Pune, said one of the students, while declining to give his name.

“We are miserable. We never expected this to happen,” said the student, barely able to conceal his agony. “On top of this, our motorcycle too was stolen yesterday evening.”

About 50 people, mostly locals, milled in the hospital complex, some of them wanting to know if they could help. A handful of policemen were busy with hospital procedures related to the bomb attack.

The friends of a Taiwanese and a Nepalese man warded in the hospital waited anxiously for them to be discharged. Some declined to speak to the media.

Ravi Ghimghere, a Nepalese who worked at the German Bakery, said his colleague, Paras Trimank, suffered multiple injuries from flying glass splinters when the backpack holding the bomb and kept under one of the tables exploded with a deafening blast Saturday evening.

It was the worst terror attack in India after November 2008 when Pakistani terrorists who sneaked into Mumbai by the sea went on a killing spree, leaving 166 Indians and foreigners dead.

The German Bakery is hugely popular with foreigners, who visit Pune in large numbers mainly for its Osho Ashram. It also attracts a lot of young Indians on weekends.

More at : Death, tears and agony in Pune hospitals Death, tears and agony in Pune hospitals

 

[DavyJones]

Riyaz Bhatkal was not on these lists that you refer to. The fact that he was related to the Bengalore, New Delhi blasts was revealed much after he fled India.

 

[ameer219]

Feb. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Nine people were killed when a bomb ripped through a bakery popular with international visitors in the Indian city of Pune, prompting opposition demands that the government cancels peace talks with neighboring Pakistan.

Police said at least 53 people were injured late yesterday by the blast that ripped billboards from their mountings and left tables and chairs scattered in the street.

It was the biggest terrorist strike in the nation since the 2008 Mumbai attack left 166 people dead and strained ties between the neighboring countries as India blamed Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba.

“Terror and talks cannot go together,” Prakash Javadekar, spokesman for the Bharatiya Janata Party, said in a phone interview today from the capital, New Delhi. “Pakistan is sponsoring terrorism. We can’t negotiate at this stage.”

The Congress Party, which heads India’s ruling coalition, said people shouldn’t “jump to conclusions” about the impact of yesterday’s attack on the talks scheduled for Feb. 25 between the nations’ foreign secretaries.

“The BJP should understand that people of this country don’t like people playing politics with terror,” spokesman Manish Tewari said in a televised address.

The Mumbai assault interrupted five years of peace talks that led to increased cultural, transport and sporting links between the countries, which have fought three wars since independence in 1947, two of them over Kashmir. The divided Himalayan territory is claimed in full by both nations.

Progress in Talks

The government in New Delhi says progress in the talks depends on Pakistan ensuring its territory isn’t used for terrorist activities.

Troubled relations between the two South Asian rivals are a concern for the Obama administration as it seeks to defeat a Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan aided by militants in Pakistan’s northwest.

Home Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram said yesterday’s attack was “the biggest terror incident in 14 months.”

Evidence “points to a plot to explode a device at a place frequented by foreigners and locals,” he said, adding that forensic investigations must be completed before it’s possible to say who was behind the bombing.

A spiritual center near the bakery was among five locations surveyed by David Coleman Headley, a Chicago man indicted by the U.S. for scouting targets before the Mumbai terrorist attacks, Home Secretary Gopal K. Pillai told reporters.

Headley, 49, the son of an American mother and Pakistani father who was born Daood Gilani, was arrested by U.S. authorities on Oct. 3 and has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Five Trips

Prosecutors say he made five trips to Mumbai from 2006 to 2008, taking photographs and making videotapes of targets later attacked.

“Irrespective of what happened in Pune, the government of India is pursuing the case of David Coleman Headley,” Chidambaram said. “We have not given up our case that we should be given access to Headley for interrogation.”

Following the Mumbai attack, Chidambaram created a federal investigation agency, strengthened patrols of coastal areas and improved training for anti-terrorism police as part of a national security overhaul.

Pillai said Dec. 9 that India remains vulnerable to terrorist attacks even after the revamp. Ports, power plants, nuclear installations, oil refineries and information technology firms are particularly vulnerable as groups based in India and abroad try to “wreck India’s economy,” he said.

Rebel Groups

Rebel groups in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir have been fighting for independence from India or a union with Pakistan since 1989. The country also faces insurgencies in some northeastern states, while Maoist guerillas have attacked economic infrastructure and security forces in southern and eastern parts of the country.

The attack was “overdue” rather than an attempt to “scuttle the peace between India and Pakistan,” Ajai Sahni, executive director of New Delhi-based Institute of Conflict Management said in a phone interview. “It’s a miracle that 2009 passed without a major incident. The surprise is it has taken so long coming.”

To contact the reporters on this story: Saikat Chatterjee in New Delhi at schatterjee4@bloomberg.net; Jay Shankar in Bangalore at jshankar1@bloomberg.net

India Bombing Kills 9, Prompts Calls to Scrap Pakistan Talks - Bloomberg.com

 

[Awesome]

Fake passports are used by people who want to catch a flight.

Then India has any record of a fake passport used?

Was a fake Indian passport used? In that case with Machine Readable Passports (MRP) as soon as the Passport is scanned at the immigration should have picked up that the passport is a fake.

If it was a non-Indian passport then how did he exit India without entering by it first?

Have the Indians confirmed that this fake passport ever entered into Dubai? By which passport did he exit Dubai? How can he exit Dubai with a different passport if there was no entry on it.

These things can be explained in may an African country but not in India, UAE and Pakistan.

This story is conjecture, unverified and probably a lie.