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Blast in Lahore's Mall road

Interestingly, the leaders have someone else to blame (the nutshell minds) cannot even think out of the area of their interest, the Seat and Money/loot/plunder. Since PMLn in Government, these culprits have used every terrorist attack against opposition and dying hard to prove it against political rivalry rather than the Business Friends abroad/the real culprits. The thugs will play such undermining games like this either by blaming opposition parties or the protesters demanding something from PMLn Government and interestingly, the pattern is always same whenever PMLn feel the heat because of opposition or populace.
Look these politicians are a joke just ignore them.
Those are the facts alongside many of threats. I don't know where I differ or wrongly stated something that you are trying to explain to me. Our national interests validates and made sure that when it comes to Pakistan's Security, whosoever risked our lives or posses threats, will be dealt accordingly including all neighbors and we are aware how to differentiate. ISIS is the just one of the pawns of the game or another evil child, the real handlers and players are well known countries. Yes, we are aware about the friends and enemies and the game will be played in the same manners as per the norms and clauses. We are weaken due to gutless leadership that cannot take decisions which needs strong political assistance.
You are not wrong but a bit compact in the view. I was only trying to say that it is no more terrorism but now it has become Proxy. The Vietnam war which America lost and the Afghan war which USSR lost had a lesson you cannot end Guerilla warfare so they started developing their Guerilla units and currently Pakistan has the largest and India has the smallest surely this act will be replied.
 
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yaar just look at this guys face and look at his title!!

HE is our LAW MINISTER!!!!

WHAT ELSE CAN GO WRONG!! HOW MUCH WORST IT CAN GET!!

Shame on you me and ALL OF US!! Rana Raami is our LAW MINISTER!! Pathetic! No CPEC or ABCD can save this country if we keep these thugs around us.

The Irony, Arsalan Bhai. CPEC or XYZ aside, IMO, these thugs are injected so that there shouldn't be any defence of us except people themselves sometimes and few institutes that country still exist despite several dates of expiry celebrated by Rivals. I shared his face that some blind followers may understand as how these thugs avails the opportunity for the personal and political gains against innocent lives. Rather than addressing the issue, the pattern of blames from cross the border and these thugs, speaks volume of their approach that never miss a chance to play politics over dead even. These are few of those signs that we need a strong Op in Punjab without any difference and responsible be hanged against the lost lives.


Look these politicians are a joke just ignore them.

Cannot ignore, these thugs and their blind followers too, are responsible for these losses.
 
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Has anyone considered it could be hafeez saeed giving a warning to the Pakistani authorities for his house arrest ?
 
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Has anyone considered it could be hafeez saeed giving a warning to the Pakistani authorities for his house arrest ?
He is in Switzerland on vocation.

Cannot ignore, these thugs and their blind followers too, are responsible for these losses.
We don't have an alternate every one coming to the top becomes money oriented. I was hopping that Raheel Sharif would go for Marshal law but he dis appointed me.
 
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We don't have an alternate every one coming to the top becomes money oriented. I was hopping that Raheel Sharif would go for Marshal law but he dis appointed me.

Not the Marshal Law but institutes and departments working without any political influence can do wonders that many of the culprits will be hanged and cleansing will be done for the good of this nation otherwise, the cat & mouse play will continue. Many of institutes too are hesitant because of public backlash at large and for the reference, just read about any action taken against Politician which resulted in mass protests, riots and what not so none want to take blame.
 
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Not the Marshal Law but institutes and departments working without any political influence can do wonders that many of the culprits will be hanged and cleansing will be done for the good of this nation otherwise, the cat & mouse play will continue. Many of institutes too are hesitant because of public backlash at large and for the reference, just read about any action taken against Politician which resulted in mass protests, riots and what not so none want to take blame.
The departments are more corrupt than the politicians, trust me on this one. Police at the lower level is a hell hole
 
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DIG Traffic Lahore Capt (Retd) Mobeen Shaheed, as a young Capt in his unit. May Allah bless him the best of heavens. embraced shahadat on Monday 13/02/2017 as a result of bomb blast on Mall Road, Lahore

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The departments are more corrupt than the politicians, trust me on this one. Police at the lower level is a hell hole

Police was least to quote here though, Politicians and corruption are interconnected hence, influence in departments. The real power is with People that can stand and change everything and then even those departments wouldn't be able to do wrong or against People's wish. We elect corrupts and they favour more corrupts in departments for their personal gains and greed of power to rule the country without any fear of being exposed.
 
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He is the biggest scum bag terrorist himself who grabs other's land forcefully. Remember when 92 channel highlighted this issue, specially the land near fezorpur road where he has made some sort of daira, he launched fake FIR against the owners of sugar mills in Faisalabad who also happened to be the owners of 92 channel. He is in bed with punjab based terrorist outfits and irony is that he happens to be the law fucking minister for Punjab. I mean can you believe that happening anywhere else in the world where a man who is known to literally smash the law in every possible manner is made the law minister.
I have not once percent of hope that Nawaz government would actually do something about it but what bothers me is the extent the institutes that are charged with protecting the national interests of Pakistan allow this fallacy to continue and rather with impunity.
 
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Need better intelligence throughout the country. Surveillance cameras in major cities.

There are clearly terror cells throughout our country, financed by our enemies.

While many of them are destroyed, there are still many out there.

There should be no tolerance towards sectarian groups either, they harbor militants.

The higher ups in the military and the government have failed, COAS Bajwa has upto this point been a complete failure, and undoing a lot of good work Raheel Sharif did.

While Raheel Sharif did a lot of good for the country, one major failing on his part was not taking initiative to take on threats in Punjab. He had the nation's support, but it is unfortunate he did not really take the initiative in Punjab.
 
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Need better intelligence throughout the country. Surveillance cameras in major cities.

There are clearly terror cells throughout our country, financed by our enemies.

While many of them are destroyed, there are still many out there.

There should be no tolerance towards sectarian groups either, they harbor militants.

The higher ups in the military and the government have failed, COAS Bajwa has upto this point been a complete failure, and undoing a lot of good work Raheel Sharif did.

While Raheel Sharif did a lot of good for the country, one major failing on his part was not taking initiative to take on threats in Punjab. He had the nation's support, but it is unfortunate he did not really take the initiative in Punjab.
Sir! Punjab is a sacred place for Khaki Chaps as PMLN rules there.
 
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There is no doubt that our elint and humint capabilities have improved a lot and such incidents have gone down drastically, there was a concrete threat alert issued a week ago which was probably based on the intel extracted from the captured suicide bomber a couple of weeks ago. There were arrests made yesterday morning as well however this one slipped through.

It is amusing to read the backlash against the security services and the demands from the Government and Army ranging from deporting all Afghans to straight up attacking India/Afghanistan.

Let us analyze each of the options separately,

Was or wasn't there a security lapse?

Only if people knew how many threats are detected by the agencies through elint and humint everyday and how many of them are neutralized, believe me you would be afraid to leave your house. There are people working 16 hour shifts to monitor, detect, decipher, analyze, categorize and create actionable intel from tons of data. They are the unsung heroes whose efforts go unappreciated by the general public. However, the problem is that our enemy is hiding in plain sight, living and walking among us. He is extremely smart and has no morals which makes him very dangerous. The bomber from yesterday was wearing plain shalwar kameer with a "Chaddar" to cover himself up, you can see thousands of people dressed in the same way walking on the streets and travelling in local buses. Densely populated cities like Lahore where people from all provinces live together and has one of the largest population of Afghans and Pashtuns, even if the agencies knew his exact appearance, it would be like trying to find a needle in a stack of needles. Yet our agencies still managed to neutralize a lot of such threats however the ones that get away are the ones that count. Hence, the goalkeeper's job.

In Retaliation, what can Pakistan do.

Deport all Afghans
This might partially solve the problem however it will be a humongous task locating them all, the dangerous ones will either go into hiding or will as easily cross back over the porous border and it will portray a very bad image of Pakistan to the world.

Fence the entire Pak-Afghan border,
It will take a lot of time and will be damn costly, there are areas which are impossible to fence due to terrain, it will be virtually impossible to place checkposts along the entire border, there are places where there are hidden cracks and natural tunnels which will still provide easy access to the infiltrators.

Attack Afghanistan
Crossing an international border will mean sanctions, India will surely engage us on the eastern border to protect it's assets, Pakistan Army will be engaged in fighting on two fronts and the objective will be lost.

Attack India
Absurdest of demands, will result in the end of the sub continent or worse escalating into WWIII.

Cross border attacks inside Afghanistan to neutralize proxies
I think we are already doing it to some extent, however the proxies can easily move deeper inside Afghanistan where attacking them would mean starting a full scale war. No matter what, Afghanistan is a sovereign country
and there is a limit to what we can do openly.

Use ISI to neutralize the proxies inside Afghanistan through covert ops
This is the best option and this is being done, however it is a slow process and there are too many of them. Like Hydra, we cut one head and two appear in its place.

Best option is to use a combination of all of the above, engage India covertly to divert RAW's attention, keep on eliminating TTP leadership inside Afghanistan overtly near the border and covertly deeper inside, fence as much of the border as possible and remove as many Afghans as possible with strict border management. Most of the sleeper cells have already been eliminated, clear the rest of them. Improve economy and education level to make sure there are less potential recruits and last of all, get rid of all the hardcore "sectist" Mullahs.
 
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And yet nobody pointed fingers at Afghanistan from the Pakistani government. The attitude is simply astonishing and uncanny. Others keep pointing fingers at us while we are quiet all the time. If Pakistanis really want to be upset on something, this non serious and carefree attitude of those in charge is what we should be at.

Cannot point fingers because Pakistan as refused to join international efforts against terror originating from Afghanistan..and then General Shukria ran his own parallel Zarb Azb wasting billions of ruppes and focused instead of Baluchistan rather than Afghanistan.

WOT is golden geese for Pakistani army and government. Get rich quick!
 
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