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Blasphemy allegations: Mob torches factory in Jhelum

although I know that the ahmadis shun anyone who leaves the faith
I have never heard of them trying to kill the person
on the other hand these molvis actively encourage killing for apostasy
 
although I know that the ahmadis shun anyone who leaves the faith
I have never heard of them trying to kill the person
on the other hand these molvis actively encourage killing for apostasy
Shun ? when ? they are only shunned if they have done something criminal or against jammat rules while being in Jammat, if they leave out of their free will, no pressure.
 
Shun ? when ? they are only shunned if they have done something criminal or against jammat rules while being in Jammat, if they leave out of their free will, no pressure.
you are wrong and here is why
individuals who have left the faith face pressure not only from their families but other people in the community
although it is not encouraged by the religion the people take it upon themselves to cut all ties from the individual
I am not talking about breaking rules here I am only talking about the backlash people face from their families and friends for leave the faith
I have seen it happen in rural pakistan
in the west this does not happen but in a country like pakistan when someone leaves a religion his/her family and friends turn on them for leaving
 
you are wrong and here is why
individuals who have left the faith face pressure not only from their families but other people in the community
although it is not encouraged by the religion the people take it upon themselves to cut all ties from the individual
I am not talking about breaking rules here I am only talking about the backlash people face from their families and friends for leave the faith
I have seen it happen in rural pakistan
in the west this does not happen but in a country like pakistan when someone leaves a religion his/her family and friends turn on them for leaving

I have family in "rural pakistan" and some of them first became Ahmadi and late left and i know few other examples, none of them faced any backlash. Those who have are due to family conflicts or personal issues not religious or jammat.
 
I have family in "rural pakistan" and some of them first became Ahmadi and late left and i know few other examples, none of them faced any backlash. Those who have are due to family conflicts or personal issues not religious or jammat.
ok dude don't get so defensive
I never said that the ahmadi leadership encourages this
I clearly said that the people in these rural areas take it upon themselves to discriminate against people who leave the faith
just because you have not came across these people it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen
 
well any person can make owt that if a worker had done something wrong why was the whole factory set ablaze ?

why did the mob reacted like that it was orcastrated by some people with there own agendas and since there is no one to bother as to what happens to ahmadias im sure the real conspirators will yet again go scott free :coffee:

Pakistanis should defend Pakistanis not Saudis or their ideology.

There is a difference between religion/sect and a cult. Qadianism is a cult. The issues were seemed to be resolved by Zia's Ordinance XX for their code of conduct but they continue to use some Muslim theology and symbols in their cult.

Ahmedis are not peaceful, they kill people who try to leave, all Ahmedis should be tried for murder which their cult has done
what i know is that authorities are taking hate speech pretty seriously and given the N.G.O enthusiasm the culprits are not going to get away
pakistan has came a long way from saudi brotherhood and pakians have proved it during yemen.

sect, cult or religion they must be given basic human rights ...... which they do enjoy but most of us has a hating attitude towards them..... i dont know its so confusing every thing about them is
 
have the balls to repeal these stupid laws that are used carte blance.
then rein in the education of mullahs and regulate them via state teaching seminaries.
 
you are wrong and here is why
individuals who have left the faith face pressure not only from their families but other people in the community
although it is not encouraged by the religion the people take it upon themselves to cut all ties from the individual
I am not talking about breaking rules here I am only talking about the backlash people face from their families and friends for leave the faith
I have seen it happen in rural pakistan
in the west this does not happen but in a country like pakistan when someone leaves a religion his/her family and friends turn on them for leaving

If you're rich, you can join and leave any faith without any problems, its always the poor that face problems.
 

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