Blame China? Why not to blame yourself first !

[Banglar Bir]

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[beijingwalker]

Show me one single pro China country that is doing well.

Western countries are still more developed than countries elsewhere and China by and large is against the west that's not a secret. What you are trying to say is to align with the west. That is exactly what most countries did and is fast changing now with the fundemental change of geopolitics. Notice the recent shift of trend and have an eye for the future.

 

[Mirzah]

Having no friends or not, we believe that by building up our country strong and wealthy, we are going to have more friends. We have nothing against Bangladesh and believe we can offer more for her future development, it's totally up to yourself to take it or leave it, we interact with other countries on equal terms.

bro although many Bangladeshis are disappointed with Chinese veto, Bangladesh sees China as an very important ally for our development and security, that will never change. We will keep buying Chinese weapon just to piss off Indians

The soon to be the most populous country in the world will soon have the de jure and default veto power .

so thats the RSS sanghi startegy? abandon family planning and have de jure and default veto power? China will always veto your entry to UNSC

 

[Species]

Mate, The Chinese have always taken decisions of self interest just like any other nation, They also have a strong foreign policy of not getting involved in internal issues of other sovereign nations, Which they have practiced over the years without any exceptions.. The Chinese veto regarding Myanmar resolution has in no way impinged on the sovereignty or the territorial integrity of Bangladesh, So why is this undue and unfair targeting of the Chinese by Bangladeshi's in this matter ? Unless of cause Bangladesh DO consider the Rohingya as Bangladeshi's and by supporting Myanmar China is directing impinging on Bangladeshi sovereignty ?

Dude you have a habit of extracting extra meaning out of posts. When did I say China has impinged on Bangladeshi sovereignty? However, their decision to openly back Myanmar in this crisis has hurt our expectations, we just expected them to stay neutral, as we were neutral during the Doklam crisis.

Our problem is we have been giving too many freebies to everybody. We have cracked down on the Northeast Indian insurgencies, but got nothing in return. We opened our market to China but got nothing in return. As a result, we are now being taken for granted. This has to stop, if others look for their national interest, we should look for our interest too.

 

[dy1022]

Show me one single pro China country that is doing well.

No one is pro China but pro national interests,

Thailand, SK( not anymore after THADD conflict), many more from Asean and Africa, you should know that China adding entire india's GDP in every 3 years time, more than 33% of World's GDP growth came from China, this world would become far worse without China's growth.

 

[beijingwalker]

Dude you have a habit of extracting extra meaning out of posts. When did I say China has impinged on Bangladeshi sovereignty? However, their decision to openly back Myanmar in this crisis has hurt our expectations, we just expected them to stay neutral, as we were neutral during the Doklam crisis.

Our problem is we have been giving too many freebies to everybody. We have cracked down on the Northeast Indian insurgencies, but got nothing in return. We opened our market to China but got nothing in return. As a result, we are now being taken for granted. This has to stop, if others look for their national interest, we should look for our interest too.

I fully support the notion that countries should take care of themselves first, Bangladesh's well being and interests should always be your government's top concern. In China we also have major public complains saying that the country invests so much overseas but still has vast regions where people live in poverty.

 

[Species]

No one is pro China but pro national interests,

Thailand, SK( not anymore after THADD conflict), many more from Asean and Africa, you should know that China adding entire india's GDP in every 3 years time, more than 33% of World's GDP growth came from China, this world would become far worse without China's growth.

We all know about China's rise and obviously future belongs to China but we also expect China to be a responsible power. If you support state-sponsored genocide by Myanmar it will leave a bad impression about China and people would think a China-led world wouldn't be any better than the present world.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Bangladesh is surrounded by India on three sides and then there is sea and Myanmar .

Making an enemy out of your foster mother India on the basis of your Hindu hatred would be the worst mistake any Bangladeshi would make . Thankfully most Bangladeshi we meet are friendly people .

You got no benefit by surrounding Bangladesh on three sides.Got only security headache and logistical problem.If Bangladesh were a militarily powerful state like Pakistan, then a co-ordinated attack on chicken neck or even north east proper would have spelled doom to your presence in north east.Fortunately for you, we are not militarily that powerful and have not same level of strategic relationship with China.

 

[Gibbs]

Dude you have a habit of extracting extra meaning out of posts. When did I say China has impinged on Bangladeshi sovereignty? However, their decision to openly back Myanmar in this crisis has hurt our expectations, we just expected them to stay neutral, as we were neutral during the Doklam crisis.

Our problem is we have been giving too many freebies to everybody. We have cracked down on the Northeast Indian insurgencies, but got nothing in return. We opened our market to China but got nothing in return. As a result, we are now being taken for granted. This has to stop, if others look for their national interest, we should look for our interest too.

Yes you're correct, Bangladeshi interest are the prerogative of its govt elected by the people.. But c'mon mate you're lying to yourself if you say there haven't been undue criticism by Bangladeshi posters here of China for backing Myanmar against a resolution which would impinge on its sovereignty.. The Chinese are sticking to their policies others arnt, And suddenly the Western govts seems to have turned darling in this circumstances, Why ? because their agenda suits your narrative

As i mentioned before in real politik only self interests matter not emotions

 

[sangh]

We always trust Bangladesh along with Pakistan as our best friends, hopeful this crisis won't cause a long term damage to our relations. Even friends in real life sometime have their own interests to look after.

I don't know what you can name to the mindset that " hates her foster mother India and loves China, the friend of her ex tormentor " . A Bangaldeshi mindset perhaps ??

This current anti India mindset prevailing in Bangadesh is the one and ONLY reason why there is so much opposition against pretense poor Ringhgya refugees in india . We don't want thousands more ungrateful Bangladeshi type Rohingya refugees to come inside India .

 

[UKBengali]

This is the real nature of Chanakya India.Always back stab the friend in the time of need.I hope present govt. realize their mistake and correct their course of foreign policy.When, China vs India come into play in Bangladesh, China should get the priority without any hesitation.BNP are totally with it.but the problem is BAL,They tried to balance China and India.By attempting to do so, they created a mess.I hope they waken to the realities.China-Bangladesh strategic and economic co-operation have a huge mutually beneficial ramification in coming decades.I hope both country embrace this forcefully.

India actually has nothing useful to offer BD apart from transit to Nepal and Bhutan. It will not take BD exports nor can provide weapons.
No idea why BD thinks India needs anything apart from minimal relations.

Yes you're correct, Bangladeshi interest are the prerogative of its govt elected by the people.. But c'mon mate you're lying to yourself if you say there haven't been undue criticism by Bangladeshi posters here of China for backing Myanmar against a resolution which would impinge on its sovereignty.. The Chinese are sticking to their policies others arnt, And suddenly the Western govts seems to have turned darling in this circumstances, Why ? because their agenda suits your narrative

As i mentioned before in real politik only self interests matter not emotions

China supporting Myanmar that has caused 500,000 Rohingyas to flee to BD should not make BD criticise China?
If those refugees went to your homeland Sri Lanka I am sure Sri Lankans will also be pissed off at China as well.

 

[Mirzah]

Fortunately for you, we are not militarily that powerful and have not same level of strategic relationship with China.

Isnt that the real problem we have right now, getting bullied by myanmar? why not have a more powerful army and a more strategic partnership with china like Pakistan

This current anti India mindset prevailing in Bangadesh is the one and ONLY reason why there is so much opposition against pretense poor Ringhgya refugees in india . We don't want thousands more ungrateful Bangladeshi type Rohingya refugees to come inside India .

Complete BS, RSS is ideologically aligned with the racist buddhist genocidal 969 movement. Bangaldesh didnt make Modi go over to myanmar in the middle of the genocide and support suu kii/myanmar and sell weapons to them. You can see hundreds of hindus rejoicing on Rohingya genocide in the Facebook comments of every news articles covering Rohingya genocide

 

[Species]

I fully support the notion that countries should take care of themselves first, Bangladesh's well being and interests should always be your government's top concern. In China we also have major public complains saying that the country invests so much overseas but still has vast regions where people live in poverty.

Are not those overseas investments of China also part of projecting your national interest?

See, people in Bangladesh always have positive regards for China and admire her greatly. This is why China's backing to Myanmar has hurt us so much. All we wanted from China is to stay neutral, but you openly backed Myanmar. Now I guess China has to do a lot to regain the trust we had earlier.

Yes you're correct, Bangladeshi interest are the prerogative of its govt elected by the people.. But c'mon mate you're lying to yourself if you say there haven't been undue criticism by Bangladeshi posters here of China for backing Myanmar against a resolution which would impinge on its sovereignty.. The Chinese are sticking to their policies others arnt, And suddenly the Western govts seems to have turned darling in this circumstances, Why ? because their agenda suits your narrative

As i mentioned before in real politik only self interests matter not emotions

It's not only China, we are also criticizing India for its support to Myanmar.

 

[sangh]

You got no benefit by surrounding Bangladesh by three sides.Got only security headache and logistical problem.If Bangladesh were a militarily powerful state like Pakistan, then a co-ordinated attack on chicken neck or even north east proper would have spelled doom to your presence in north east.Fortunately for you, we are not militarily that powerful and have not same level of strategic relationship with China.

Had you been anything of security threat to India , we wouldn't have shed precious Indian blood for the creation of Bangladesh or Given refuge to 9 Million Bengali from East pakistani in the wake of 1971 liberation war.

Again Had you been anything of security threat to India , none of the thousands Bangladeshi would be
getting into India illegally , more over we would shot dead in their first attempt , like we do to anyone that tries get entry into India from the Pakistani side .

 

[Arefin007]

Show me one single pro China country that is doing well.

why are you so pro india when you know they hate muslims very much ?? hui muslims in China are doing very well and problem with uyghurs is due to ethnic reasons rather than religious