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[Dalit]

No that is bad too. Two bad won't make it right. Hong Kong protestors too are hooligans with nothing better to do.



And they are doing vandalism and looting other people's property. They are not even peaceful protestors.

US cops are trigger happy. Many are also racist and use violence against people of color in the US.

 

[rambro]

US cops are trigger happy. Many are also racist and use violence against people of color in the US.

US cops are most notorious with that, bring in racism against non-white people....perfect recipe for disaster.
African Americans arent even safe in their own homes, gets reported for being a threat for having lunch at a college campus etc

 

[Dalit]

Americans dont even know that the Hindu regime is brutalizing Muslims on a daily basis in the most savage ways you can imagine short of massacres. No graphic images are circulated 100 times a day on American media. No graphic narratives are circulated 100 times a da on American media. The opposite, its covered vaguely as some "unrests" and any report quickly pushed under the rug into the archives because of geopolitical interests favouring India.

Some knowledgeable Americans do and still don't care because they look at their interests. US interest is to suck up to India to contain China. That is the narrative and main goal. If the Americans have to look the other way and ignore Indian human rights abuses in Kashmir they will do that comfortably for the unforeseeable future. Interests triumph over anything else.

Except for what the deep state and media tells Joe the plumber, the average American doesn't care. Too far away and unknown territory.

The average Joe cannot point countries on the map. It is too much of an ask to expect average Americans to sympathize with our causes. Pakistan is also a predominantly Muslim country which simply won't help our cause. The Americans are bred to hate Moslems.

It is the deep state that shapes narrative in the US. As long as you don't have US deep state support on your side, you don't have any support from average Joe.

Pakistan or any developing nation in the world shouldn't be yearning for support from the Western world. There are too many gaps and enmities between our civilisations. Developing nations have to learn to stand on their own feet and forge alliances. Just like Western nations did after WWII.

 

[American Pakistani]

What about cops killing citizens based on the color of their skin? Is that fair and justified?

Nope that's not justified. But we have to see the complete picture before passing judgements.

Never said that cops should be killing innocent civilians. But looting and vandalism is equally bad.

I won't want anyone to burn my car or destroy my house, will you?

US cops are trigger happy. Many are also racist and use violence against people of color in the US.

Not many but few.

 

[dbc]

US regime is now enjoying the beautiful scene they encourage and glorify on home ground.

Protests, riots and civil disobedience is sewn into the fabric of the United States of America.
China and Chinese people has misinterpreted the context of the "beautiful scene" remark.
In Hong Kong, the governed followed their conscience to oppose a bill that they thought was unjust.

I am enjoying these beautiful scenes, it highlights the courage and resolve of the American people to fight against injustice. Even when the source of that injustice is its own government.

The classic treatise on this topic is Henry David Thoreau's "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience," which states that when a person's conscience and the laws clash, that person must follow his or her conscience. The stress on personal conscience and on the need to act now rather than to wait for legal change are recurring elements in civil disobedience movements. The U.S. Bill of Rights asserts that the authority of a government is derived from the consent of the governed, and whenever any form of government becomes destructive, it is the right and duty of the people to alter or abolish it.

1) The Boston Tea Party -- citizens of the colony of Massachusetts trespassed on a British ship and threw its cargo (tea from England) overboard, rather than be forced to pay taxes without representation to Britain. This was one of the many acts of civil disobedience leading to the War for Independence, establishing the United States of America as a sovereign state.

2) Anti-war movements have been a part of U.S. history since Thoreau went to jail for refusing to participate in the U.S. war against Mexico in 1849. More recent examples were the nationwide protests against the war in Viet Nam, U.S involvement in Nicaragua and Central America, and the Gulf War. Actions have included refusal to pay for war, refusal to enlist in the military, occupation of draft centers, sit-ins, blockades, peace camps, and refusal to allow military recruiters on high school and college campuses.

3) The Women's Suffrage Movement lasted from 1848 until 1920, when thousands of courageous women marched in the streets, endured hunger strikes, and submitted to arrest and jail in order to gain the right to vote.

4) Abolition of slavery -- including Harriet Tubman's underground railway, giving sanctuary, and other actions which helped to end slavery.

5) The introduction of labor laws and unions. Sit-down strikes organized by the IWW, and CIO free speech confrontations led to the eradication of child labor and improved working conditions, established the 40-hour work week and improved job security and benefits.

6) The Civil Rights Movement, led by Martin Luther King, Jr. and others, included sit-ins and illegal marches which weakened segregation in the south.

7) The Anti-Nuclear Movement, stimulated by people like Karen Silkwood and the Three Mile Island nuclear power accident, organized citizens throughout the country into direct action affinity groups, with consensus decision making and Gandhian nonviolence as its core. Massive acts of civil disobedience took place at nuclear power facilities across the country, followed by worldwide protests against first-strike nuclear weapons, occupying military bases, maintaining peace camps, interfering with manufacture and transport of nuclear bombs and devices, marching, sitting in, blockading and otherwise disrupting business as usual at nuclear sites.

8) Environmental and forest demonstrations, with acts of civil disobedience such as sit-ins, blockades, tree sits and forest occupations, have emerged in the last decade, prompted by the continuing mass clear cuts and destruction of the forest ecosystem and widespread environmental consequences.

https://archives.nwtrcc.org/omtfp/civilrole.html

 

[beijingwalker]

US has been cheering for Hong Kong "peaceful democratic protest" for a year now, how come the narrative of the same thing all of the sudden turned differently when they happen in US.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1267227484300378112

https://twitter.com/x/status/1267277113524133888

 

[rambro]

CIA got lazy and forget to train the peaceful protesters

 

[baqai]

I live in 1hr distance from Orange County Florida. Really hectic and busy place, insane weather.

I heard Orange County California is pretty nice. Very relaxing, nice weather, wealthy expensive area for rich retired folks.

I think only thing Orange County Florida and Orange County California have in common is that there is Disneyland in both.

have never been to US and never really had any temptations either, i am one of those people who did their first international travel sponsored by employee not dad so i cherished every moment I have only been to Germany once (loved it), Saudia (Umrah) Once and Dubai multiple times, the things which tempts me in US are Universal Studios, NASA, Area 51, Disney Land ... the thing which repels me is SUSRAL :p

 

[beijingwalker]

2020 we see an incompetent, weak, vulnerable, fractious and virus plagued America whose fast declining is unstoppable.

 

[bbccdd1470]

But why the different narratives for HK rioters who burns police, civilians alive for being not in the same page?
Not to mentioned disrupted HK International Airport

Those cops can be charged with attempted murder, all on video again
US regime is now enjoying the beautiful scene they encourage and glorify on home ground.

The cops were in the wrong. If the same situation is happened in HK, police cars would turn back and send a group of riot police to clear the road. To be honest, it was not like they were throwing petrol bombs and assaulting the police car with metal sticks like that in HK.

 

[Dalit]

Nope that's not justified. But we have to see the complete picture before passing judgements.

Never said that cops should be killing innocent civilians. But looting and vandalism is equally bad.

I won't want anyone to burn my car or destroy my house, will you?


Not many but few.

The fact that African Americans and other color of people keep getting killed in such incidents points to a major problem.

The complete picture is that white racist cops killed an African American. That triggered yet another race riot.

 

[beijingwalker]

The cops were in the wrong. If the same situation is happened in HK, police cars would turn back and send a group of riot police to clear the road. To be honest, it was not like they were throwing petrol bombs and assaulting the police car with metal sticks like that in HK.

Hong Kong police vehicle bursts into flames after being hit by Molotov cocktail

 

[ChennaiDude]

Well, maybe you speak English well by your standards, but your comment was ambiguous indeed.

I didn't butt in. It's a forum. People are free to participate in any discussion as they please. You said you had "bolded" the part you were responding to, but the photo you uploaded just now clearly contradicts your earlier statement and shows that you hadn't bolded any part of that guy's comment. So, that's why I thought you were saying that it can't be called a civil war because there isn't a religious angle to it.

You could've handled my response a lot better by correcting my mistake instead of attacking my nationality, but your inferiority complex got in the way and you lost your temper like a triggered fool. My comment wasn't worded in an offensive tone, your reply to me was.

Anyway, you're dismissed now. You may now return to your call center job. Have fun.

Just move on- Step down Lieutenant-You are forgiven.

 

[Dalit]

Hong Kong police vehicle bursts into flames after being hit by Molotov cocktail

American deep state terms the Hong Kong vandalism as a justified struggle.

Yet when white racist cops kill minorities in the US it is justified under the garb of maintaining security and what not.

The hypocrisy is mind numbing.