BJP rejects Indo-Bangla land swap idea

[Zabaniyah]

DUUUUDE! Are you comparing Nazi Germany to BNP?! !!!! You just insulted the Reich big time. Hitler's forces were 30 years ahead in technology and innovation compared to all the Allies of that time. Had each of Allies fought one on one, they'd have all been speaking German today.

Talk about insulting a dead empire..

Comparing the brain-dead retards of the BNP to Nazi Germany is pretty insulting God, those douche-bags were such evil geniuses.

They even came up with the world's first assault rifle We'd have to admit, those evil douche-bags had their contributions.

 

[aakash_2410]

@Zabanya only sensible Bangladeshi member who you can have sensible discussion with.

 

[ashokdeiva]

I am not talking about now but the time just when all the states were deciding to join either us or Pakistanis.



Very few honest and genuine people feel that way, mate. Very few. Especially when you've got some examples here of the kind you know what I mean.



You think our politicians are all Netanyahus and Golda Meirs? Congress is a thousand times more corrupt than Zardari, Gilani, and entire political parties of Bangladesh combined. Yet the reason why whatever progress is being made here is because of the common man's killing hard work and dedication. There has been an unfortunate drop in the Buddhist population as well as mainstream Hindu population from the existing amounts post-independence itself and that is what has been the point of my throwing in that line. There are more than one examples even if the common Bagngladeshi citizen is not radical.

The reduction in the population of Hindus and Budhist is due to the reason of high education and most Hindus and Budhist do not go beyond 2 children, most of them stoping at 1 child. but on the other hand Muslim population in India is growing due to excess child birth.
The human population has already grown to a level that we will outrun all the resources of this planet. HIndus, Budhist, Sikh and Christians have realized this but Muslim, I don't know when they will realize this,

 

[kobiraaz]

@Zabanya only sensible Bangladeshi member who you can have sensible discussion with.

at least we got one..

 

[Maira La]

This is how Germans approached Russia during WWII. Wanting to overrun a country bigger in size. Today in SA, Bangladesh is the local Nazi Deutschland and BNP is the local Nazis(see parallels? Its politics through hatred based on religion). You commoners need to back off from this track before BNP destroys this little land called Bangladesh. Germans realized it too late.

The only difference is that Bangladeshis are no where as capable as the Nazi Germans, militarily and economically. So Bangladesh will be obliterated if it tries anything fancy with India.

See what I did there?

You disappoint me Roybroo. I was referring to powerful Germany vs other weaker nation states around it, which at the end of the day f***** Germany real bad.

Germany and Russia would be an odd pair for comparison. Russia was militarily, economically and technologically weaker, but had a huge land size. So no, your analogy doesn't work. And I see you didn't fail to add some more hate for BD at the end, because it hurts your ego to compare BD with Germany. >D

Just look back at the post of the indian dude who I replied to. He wants war, like many other indians, because a tiny Bangladesh dares to challenge supahpowah india and claim it's own share of water, land and sea territory. This was basically the mindset of the powerful Germans back then, backed by the Nazi party, against their neighbors.

I'm not a BNP supporter, but just so that you know, BNP suggests an Islamic identity for the state, but would never make any anti-hindu statement. Several top BNP leaders are hindus (aww no muslim leaders in india's version of BNP..). Again, I'm not saying local BNP leaders never hurt minority interests, but BNP wouldn't dare make a public statement against the minority, especially hindus. Would make them very unpopular overnight! Heck, even JI would refrain from such things!

BJP is, probably, the only popular party in SA that makes open statements against minorities and wins elections. Now talk about a local Nazi party!

 

[Roybot]

Just look back at the post of the indian dude who I replied to. He wants war, like many other indians, because a tiny Bangladesh dares to challenge supahpowah india and claim it's own share of water, land and sea territory. This was basically the mindset of the powerful Germans back then, backed by the Nazi party, against their neighbors.

I'm not a BNP supporter, but just so that you know, BNP suggests an Islamic identity for the state, but would never make any anti-hindu statement. Again, I'm not saying local BNP leaders never hurt minority interests, but BNP wouldn't dare make a public statement against the minority, especially hindus. Would make them very unpopular overnight! Heck, even JI would refrain from such things!

BJP is, probably, the only popular party in SA that makes open statements against minorities and wins elections. Now talk about a local Nazi party!

Please refer to post number #3 on the first page, by one of your countrymen. The comment by that Indian bloke about waging proxy wars against Bangladesh was in response to that. So your guy put a flame bait and when an Indian pays back in the same coin, we somehow become Nazi Germans?

As I said in one my follow up posts, that BNP(even the major leaders) has been whining about these land swap deals day in and dayout, but when one BJP legislator says something similar, then how dare he! Fact of the matter is, these land swap deals are possibly the best thing to happen for India-Bangladesh relationship, will solve a lot of niggling issues. And this is what the opposition parties in both countries don't like, which is why you see them opposing it. Because they don't want their opponents to take the credit.

I don't get it? Bangladeshis have been rigorously complaining about the land swap deal on this forum, so shouldn't you guys support the BJP legislators comments of not going through with the land deal? Or bashing India either ways is something you guys thrive on?

BJP has never made "open" comments about minorities in India. On the other hand JI is probably the only popular party in the world whose leaders are being grilled for war crimes on their own people and still win elections. Go figure.

 

[Roybot]

I'm not a BNP supporter, but just so that you know, BNP suggests an Islamic identity for the state, but would never make any anti-hindu statement. Several top BNP leaders are hindus (aww no muslim leaders in india's version of BNP..). Again, I'm not saying local BNP leaders never hurt minority interests, but BNP wouldn't dare make a public statement against the minority, especially hindus. Would make them very unpopular overnight! Heck, even JI would refrain from such things!

There are Muslim leaders in BJP. Two of them were federal ministers when BJP was in power.

Syed Shahnawaz Hussain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BanglaBhoot]

India's opposition against Teesta, boundary deals

New Delhi, Aug 29 (bdnews24.com)—Opposition political parties in Indian states bordering Bangladesh have opposed New Delhi's plan to clinch an interim deal with Dhaka to share water of Teesta and resolve the issues related to land boundary between the two neighbours.

With just about a week to go before Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh's much-awaited visit to Bangladesh, the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party and Asom Gana Parishad in the northeastern Indian state of Assam strongly opposed the "give-and-take" formula New Delhi and Dhaka apparently working on to resolve the issues related to land boundary, including the un-demarcated stretches of the border between the two countries.

The Revolutionary Socialist Party – a constituent of the opposition Left Front in the eastern Indian state of West Bengal – too expressed reservation about Delhi's plan to strike an interim agreement with Dhaka for sharing water of river Teesta and stated that it would oppose any deal that would adversely affect people in northern region of the state.

The interim agreement for sharing of water of Teesta and the deal to resolve the issues related to border are likely to be the major highlights of Singh's visit to Dhaka on Sept 6 and 7.

Singh is likely to be accompanied by Mamata Banerjee, Tarun Gogoi, Manik Sarkar, Mukul Sangma and Lal Thanhawla, Chief Ministers of the Indian states of West Bengal, Assam, Tripura, Meghalaya and Mizoram respectively. All the five Indian states share border with Bangladesh.

Assam, Meghalaya and Mizoram are ruled by Indian National Congress, which also leads a coalition government at the centre in Delhi.

Banerjee's All India Trinamool Congress, an ally of the Congress, last May defeated the Left Front in the state assembly polls and came to power in West Bengal -- after 34 years of rule by the Left Front since 1977.

Tripura however is still ruled by Left Front, which is led by Communist Party of India (Marxist).

Gogoi recently told media-persons in Assam's main city Guwahati that New Delhi was looking for an exchange of enclaves and adversely possessed land between India and Bangladesh to settle the issues related to border between the two countries.

The chief minister of Assam also said that India would get back more land than what Bangladesh would receive in the exchange.

This triggered protests by opposition BJP and AGP with both stating that they would oppose any move by New Delhi to concede Assam's land to Bangladesh.

The AGP president Chandra Mohan Patowary said that people of Assam would "oppose tooth and nail" any move by India's central government in New Delhi to give away even "an inch of land" of Bangladesh, even if such an initiative was endorsed by the State Government headed by Gogoi. The AGP – a regional party – staged a protest demonstration in Guwahati on Monday, denouncing the purported move by New Delhi to strike a swap-deal with Dhaka to resolve the issues related land boundary. Patowary said that any such a move on the part of the governments in the centre and the state could lead to serious turmoil in Assam.

Even the BJP – the principal opposition party in Indian Parliament – strongly opposed New Delhi's purported plan to strike an exchange agreement with Dhaka to settle the issues related to enclaves and adversely possessed land between Bangladesh and India. Pradyut Bora, the general secretary of the BJP's state unit in Assam, said that the party would oppose the government's plan both legally and politically.

With purported illegal migration from Bangladesh to India and alleged encroachment of Indian territories by people of Bangladesh along the Bangladesh-India border being a major political issue in Assam, both the AGP and BJP are likely to step up their offensives against the Congress governments in the state and centre, protesting their moves to settle the issues between New Delhi and Dhaka by a give-and-take formula.

There are 111 Indian enclaves in Bangladesh with 17,160 acres of land and a population of about 37000 people. India on the other hand has 51 Bangladeshi enclaves with 7110 acres of land and a population of about 14000 people.

Altogether 1880.81 acres of Indian land are in adverse possession of Bangladesh. India adversely possesses 1165.49 acres of land of Bangladesh.

During prime minister Sheikh Hasina's visit to New Delhi in Jan 2010, Bangladesh and India agreed to comprehensively address all outstanding land boundary issues, keeping in view the spirit of the 1974 Land Boundary Agreement.

The Bangladesh-India Joint Boundary Working Group has since been trying to work out a swap deal to resolve the border dispute once and for all.

Meanwhile, Revolutionary Socialist Party – one of the four leading parties of the opposition Left Front in West Bengal – already expressed concerns over the proposed interim deal that Dhaka and Delhi are planning to strike for sharing of water of Teesta during Indian prime minister's visit to Bangladesh.

Prashanta Majumder, an RSP leader and a member of Indian parliament from Paschim Bangla, said that if India agreed to share with Bangladesh 50 percent of water of Teesta, it would result in great difficulties for about 15 million people in northern region of the state he was elected from.

Majumder recently raised the issue in Lok Sabha, the Lower House of Indian parliament, and urged Singh to safeguard the interests of the people of northern region of West Bengal while giving go-ahead for signing of the deal for sharing of water of river Teesta during his visit to Dhaka.

Teesta flows through Sikkim and northern part of West Bengal before entering Bangladesh.

As West Bengal is also largely dependent on Teesta for irrigation and hydropower generation, India's central government has been factoring in the views of the state government while negotiating the interim treaty with Bangladesh for sharing of the water of the river.

India's opposition against Teesta, boundary deals | Bangladesh | bdnews24.com

 

[sarthak]

BJP is crazy . For once congress is going to do something good and BJP wants them not to even do that .

Unnecessary hurdle .

BJP is crazy . For once congress is going to do something good and BJP wants them not to even do that .

Unnecessary hurdle .

How is this something good? Do you just want this swap to go through to make friends with bangladeshi members on this forum or to improve india's image among the bangladeshis? I hope you have read the news report. India is going to suffer a net loss of land because of this swap. Why not just hold on to the land we have instead of just giving it away? I totally agree with BJP , no land swap should be undertaken. Rather , they should give us land to plant crops to feed their >10 million migrants that are residing in India.

 

[kobiraaz]

Also Tell your BJP to give us our 261 acres back which is given to India by Hasina without exchanging anything for free..

 

[LaBong]

How is this something good? Do you just want this swap to go through to make friends with bangladeshi members on this forum or to improve india's image among the bangladeshis? I hope you have read the news report. India is going to suffer a net loss of land because of this swap. Why not just hold on to the land we have instead of just giving it away? I totally agree with BJP , no land swap should be undertaken. Rather , they should give us land to plant crops to feed their >10 million migrants that are residing in India.

Why don't you people do a bit of research before commenting on something you have whatsoever no idea of! Those land, colloquially called as Chitmahals are scattered isolated pieces of landmass and were part of card game once played between Raja of Kochbihar and a Mughal subedar. They need to be exchanged and people living there need to be rehabilitated!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Also Tell your BJP to give us our 261 acres back which is given to India by Hasina without exchanging anything for free..

Such a silly attitude only hardens the stand.

You may not like your Hasina, but that does not mean that things should not be worked out for a favourable relationship.

Let me assure you that it does not matter to India if India does not go an extra mile for Bangladesh.

And who cares if it is Hasina, Khaleda or any other chap.

Do let us know what the flaming hell can Bangladesh do to India.

You are nowhere in the reckoning on the world map, politically, strategically or economically.

If you were, then the world would be flocking at your doorstep like they do for India and China.

Sometimes, I wonder what encourages your delusions.

What exactly is Bangladesh's value on the world stage, be it economically, strategically or politically?

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

You disappoint me Roybroo. I was referring to powerful Germany vs other weaker nation states around it, which at the end of the day f***** Germany real bad.

Germany and Russia would be an odd pair for comparison. Russia was militarily, economically and technologically weaker, but had a huge land size. So no, your analogy doesn't work. And I see you didn't fail to add some more hate for BD at the end, because it hurts your ego to compare BD with Germany. >D

Just look back at the post of the indian dude who I replied to. He wants war, like many other indians, because a tiny Bangladesh dares to challenge supahpowah india and claim it's own share of water, land and sea territory. This was basically the mindset of the powerful Germans back then, backed by the Nazi party, against their neighbors.

I'm not a BNP supporter, but just so that you know, BNP suggests an Islamic identity for the state, but would never make any anti-hindu statement. Several top BNP leaders are hindus (aww no muslim leaders in india's version of BNP..). Again, I'm not saying local BNP leaders never hurt minority interests, but BNP wouldn't dare make a public statement against the minority, especially hindus. Would make them very unpopular overnight! Heck, even JI would refrain from such things!

BJP is, probably, the only popular party in SA that makes open statements against minorities and wins elections. Now talk about a local Nazi party!

don't wanna raise a dead issue again in a thread-gone-to-the-dogs from its inception ....

but those days are long gone where war would mean mobilizing tanks and jets ( Nazi- WW2 era to use your ridiculous analogy ) . War in these times mean unconventional war .

and can be of any nature --demographic , subersive , encouraging extremism etc etc ...the list can go on and on .

You are not the first Bangladeshi who has ranted about "Hindu hegemony" and "Indian arm-twisting" while at the same time selectively ignoring the " Bangladesh will take NE and Assam " trash bits .

Whether you like it or not , India is the neighboring Behemoth and you mess around too much with Indian internal security, demography etc . and you are likely to get burned.

As far as the uninformed tripe about the BJP is concerned , sounds more like the product of intensive propaganda by Jamaat -e-islami or the other radicals mushrooming up so rapidly in your society ---- Which ironically you yourself choose to disavow clearly evidenced by this

I'm not a BNP supporter, but just so that you know, BNP suggests an Islamic identity for the state, but would never make any anti-hindu statement.

The BJP is a party which holds national interests Paramount and that includes the welfare of "Indian citizens " very much inclusive of "Indian Muslims" . Pray stop trying to portray a picture of religious disharmony in our political system (perceived through the flawed lens you're wearing ) because any adverse comments by the BJP against any Hindus/Muslims/Christians/Sikhs/Buddhists/Jews outside India doesn't figure in our scheme of things or considerations .

Brotherhood based on any particular religion transcending national boundaries is a concept best left amongst theocracies (hint : look to our western front for examples) and BD is very much en-route to being a full fledged one.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^^^You took his post seriously?

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

^^^You took his post seriously?

sometimes its difficult to determine where the invisible line between serious, rational discussion and wit ,sarcasm and dry humor lies when it comes to some of the debates on PDF

here s to your timely alert

"raises a toast "