Bill Gates & The Blind Ummah

[EasyNow]

Nothing to do with it. It's the Western investment, industrialisation and cheap labour that made country rich. Here are countries by population, you can clearly see that population has nothing to do with progress.

1 China - highest population - second superpower
2 India - shithole
3 United States - superpower. Population irrelevant
4 Indonesia - rich country. Should have been worse than Pakistan if population mattered
5 Pakistan - shithole
6 Brazil - better country than Pakistan
7 Nigeria - less population still a shithole
8 Bangladesh - less population - still poor

You can go down the list and see countries with less population still are shitholes.

Whichever country has puppets or traitors or corrupts as their leaders is a shithole regardless of the population.

Big Population - as long as you want to provide cheap labour it works - but it will keep you there forever. China wanted to get our of the cycle - so it focused on population after the original manufacturing boom.

In regards to your list - too many mistakes in there. BD and Nigeria are massively overpopulated.

I Can provide you dozens of countries who are rich that have small populations, but there are zero rich countries with population ratio like Asia.

 

[Azadkashmir]

All of Bill Gates kids are vaccinated.

Bill Gates has nothing to do with the wars in the middle east.

Indian farmers were committing suicide way before that, due to lack of government support, and extreme financial burden.

Again, you're bringing up random topics, and trying to connect them, when no such connection exists.

Snopes is also a fact checking site, with plenty of credibility and sources to back them up.

A random joe schmoe claiming that he can do surgery, is not the same as an actual surgeon. In this case, the actual surgeon is snopes, and the random joe is your clear propaganda.

You go your way I go mine. good luck.

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

I can say same that the website you are referencing is propaganda.
it is your choice to get vaccinated on their behalf. History tells diff story you haven't forgotten British empire east India company David Sassoon, have you.
you think these white ahem chosen race of pharaohs want to help you.

Fair enough, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but please keep in mind snopes is considered pretty legit, besides there are other sources out there that corroborate the same. As for your white race comment, I am afraid I cant contribute to that discussion without bias as I'm married to one.

 

[jamahir]

Indians accepted GMO Monsanto seeds then you hear sometime later farmers are committing suicide.

Sorry but it is only cranks in India like Vandana Shiva who believe that the suicides of Indian farmers are because of GMO companies. As @That Guy said, the suicides have existed before GMO companies began operation here.

The suicides are really because of India's extremely capitalist socio-economic system. In one instance, a MBA-type agent of a money-lending institution callously told a woman farmer that if she can't repay the loan she better jump into the village pond. The next morning she did.

In India, Life is not sacred. This is maybe because of the extremely high population ( one dead but 10,000 more to replace him ) or because of the culture ( Buddha was disturbed by it ). So farmer suicides ( 300,000+ just between 1995 and 2015 ) are not taken seriously and as an indication that the socio-economic system should be changed through questioning and intellectual revolution. Most of the urban middle classes are not at all bothered by it. What do you say, @Soumitra ??

 

[Azadkashmir]

Fair enough, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but please keep in mind snopes is considered pretty legit, besides there are other sources out there that corroborate the same. As for your white race comment, I am afraid I cant contribute to that discussion without bias as I'm married to one.

sorry, I meant elite whites no some average person.

 

[Soumitra]

Sorry but it is only cranks in India like Vandana Shiva who believe that the suicides of Indian farmers are because of GMO companies.

The suicides are really because of India's extremely capitalist socio-economic system. In one instance, a MBA-type agent of a money-lending institution told a woman farmer that if she can't repay the loan she better jump into the village pond. The next morning she did.

In India, Life is not sacred. This is maybe because of the extremely high population or because of the culture ( Buddha was disturbed by it ). So farmer suicides ( 300,000+ just between 1995 and 2015 ) are not taken seriously and as an indication that the socio-economic system should be changed through self-questioning and intellectual revolution. Most of the urban middle classes are not at all bothered by it. What do you say, @Soumitra ??

@That Guy

Yes I am not bothered by farmer suicides or student suicides. Farming is a business and they must know how to manage their resources. No need to have 8-10 children and everyone work on the same 1 acre farm. The politicians are also to blame who promise them loan waivers in every election.

Students who commit suicide are even more stupid. The farmer can at least say that he is poor or crops failed or there was draught. He may have some valid reason.

A student doesn't have a valid reason. First he gets into a course even though he is not at all competent. There have been reports that students who scored just 1-2 marks in physics exam getting into engineering because of quota
Once they get into the college they waste their time in politics, shouting azadi slogans. Then they fail in exams, get depressed and commit suicide.

Cry me a river. I have zero sympathy

 

[jamahir]

The politicians are also to blame who promise them loan waivers in every election.

The loan waiver schemes are a recent thing.

Farming is a business and they must know how to manage their resources. No need to have 8-10 children and everyone work on the same 1 acre farm.

Farming in India has largely been a traditional, unscientific profession. New systems like computer-controlled Vertical Farming, Urban Farming and Collective Farming should be implemented.

Agriculture should be a regular engineering course alongside say, computer engineering.

everyone work on the same 1 acre farm.

Solution : A neighborhood-level five-storey Vertical Farm or 30 acre farm done Collectively ( jointly by say 5 families ) using modern machinery.

 

[Soumitra]

Solution : A neighborhood-level five-storey Vertical Farm or 30 acre farm done Collectively ( jointly by say 5 families ) using modern machinery.

No. The solution is
1 Hum do, hamaare do
2 Get your@$$ in city and work in factories

 

[namefield_empty]

New systems like computer-controlled Vertical Farming, Urban Farming and Collective Farming should be implemented.

You are talking about high funda stuffs, how about a simple change of cropping pattern that would bring tangible results in some places, and amendment in the APMC that sucks the sharecroppers dry..

Why the fk do we even need to adopt vertical farming in our country.. You IT guys should stop innovating at every new turn and let the farmers be.

Get your@$$ in city and work in factories

Gradually being done, not easy to correct the Nehruvian blunder.

 

[jamahir]

No. The solution is
1 Hum do, hamaare do

No problem with that.

2 Get your@$$ in city and work in factories

Who will produce the food then ??

Read my previous post again. I meant that agriculture should become an engineering course the same way that computer engineering is. Currently, agriculture in India is a mostly unchanged 3000-year-old unscientific occupation.

Why the fk do we even need to adopt vertical farming in our country.

Self-sufficiency in food production at city level, vast lower rate of environmental pollution and no farming-generated cancers among farmers.

And think about this :

In the current cities, every locality having a few five-storey Vertical Farms. Some of the youth from that locality operating the VF. The youth being educated in a scientific way. Those crops that cannot be grown within the VF, like coconuts or grapes, can be grown elsewhere in the city. In this way a city becomes mostly self-sufficient in crop-based food.

Consider also :

Say ten farming villages in current rural areas be gathered into a newly created township with the same system of neighborhood-level VFs and open Urban Farms. This new township should be strictly removed of its former village elements, especially culture. City elements like malls and multiplex cinemas should be introduced. In a short while we will see vastly reduced migration to older big cities and also the side effect of discouragement of regressive rural social practices like honor killing.

let the farmers be.

As I wrote in one of my previous posts, 300,000+ farmer suicides just between 1995 and 2015. Isn't this ridiculous ??

Gradually being done, not easy to correct the Nehruvian blunder.

What does that mean ??

 

[namefield_empty]

Self-sufficiency in food production at city level, vast lower rate of environmental pollution and no farming-generated cancers among farmers.

Pure bs IMO, farmers are likely to get affected by occupational hazards including diseases like silicosis, COPD and hypersensitivity pneumonitis. Those are the direct consequence of environmental pollution.

The youth being educated in a scientific way. Those crops that cannot be grown within the VF, like coconuts or grapes, can be grown elsewhere in the city. In this way a city becomes mostly self-sufficient in crop-based food.

In case you didn't know, farmers are already being educated on various scientific aspects of farming via the goverment schemes. We need some structural changes, not ornamental measures. Cities don't have breathing spaces, i don't how how you postulate growing resource intensive plants like coconut. I am lost for words..

As I wrote in one of my previous posts, 300,000+ farmer suicides just between 1995 and 2015. Isn't this ridiculous ??

Not unsurprising in a country where the south west monsoon is the finance minister. We don't need cosmetic changes by IT startups, structural issues have to be addressed. Come up with some of them now and we shall discuss..

 

[jamahir]

IMO, farmers are likely to get affected by occupational hazards including diseases like silicosis, COPD and hypersensitivity pneumonitis. Those are the direct consequence of environmental pollution.

That's what I am saying.

A largely-automated and environmentally closed VF, except for sunlight and water, does not require much introduction of fertilizer and certainly none of pesticide. These VF farmers can wear protective clothing even. Also, since the VF sections are environmentally closed, more carbon dioxide can be introduced to enhance plant growth.

All in all, lesser risk to human health than in traditional agriculture.

 

[namefield_empty]

That's what I am saying.

A largely-automated and environmentally closed VF, except for sunlight and water, does not require much introduction of fertilizer and certainly none of pesticide. These VF farmers can wear protective clothing even. Also, since the VF sections are environmentally closed, more carbon dioxide can be introduced to enhance plant growth.

All in all, lesser risk to human health than in traditional agriculture.

Are you out of your mind? Sorry to say that this is what has become of our startup generation.

India has about 60 pc of her total landmass as cultivated area and most of it is arable.

Agriculture is a family profession/tradition here where will you shift the excess population to after your supposed automation? I gather that you are a socialist!!!

And what of the already present agricultural land, should that be left fallow as we move production towards our cities..

 

[jamahir]

In case you didn't know, farmers are already being educated on various scientific aspects of farming via the goverment schemes.

I am aware of things like drip irrigation technique brought from Israel.

Cities don't have breathing spaces

I lay the blame on India's city planners. Well, I will call them non-planners.

For example, the effects of an earthquake in urban India will be more than say in suburban America. Indian residential areas are mostly densely packed, have narrow roads, multi-storey buildings built with no consideration for possible earthquakes.

That is why we should be building better planned new cities instead of continuously adding annexures in the old style. And when we build new cities we should build in a scientific, harmonious way, unlike new places like Noida which are no different from other older Indian cities.

Agriculture is a family profession/tradition here where will you shift the excess population to after your supposed automation? I gather that you are a socialist!!!

And what of the already present agricultural land, should that be left fallow as we move production towards our cities..

I have posted about that previously :

Say ten farming villages in current rural areas be gathered into a newly created township with the same system of neighborhood-level VFs and open Urban Farms. This new township should be strictly removed of its former village elements, especially culture. City elements like malls and multiplex cinemas should be introduced. In a short while we will see vastly reduced migration to older big cities and also the side effect of discouragement of regressive rural social practices like honor killing.​

The new township, including the farms, will be built on the current agricultural land and there will be the effect on vastly lessened migration to current big cities because most occupations can be practiced locally.

 

[Soumitra]

Are you out of your mind? Sorry to say that this is what has become of our startup generation.

India has about 60 pc of her total landmass as cultivated area and most of it is arable.

Agriculture is a family profession/tradition here where will you shift the excess population to after your supposed automation? I gather that you are a socialist!!!

And what of the already present agricultural land, should that be left fallow as we move production towards our cities..

Don't mind his illogical ideas. He must have read vertical farming in some green book, red book Or some communist Manifesto

We need less people in farming and morebin manufacturing. We have enough arable land to sustain the population. The problem is that we have more people working on farms. Let bare minimum people work on farms and others work in factories. Build good supply chain. Let every district have 2-3 cold storage units. Let there be high speed highways from farms to cities. If people can't be working in factories let them work in building the infrastructure.
Cut out the middle man and let free market decide the price