Bihar : What Went Wrong ???

[zebra7]

That is the saddest thing that has happened with every society , culture and Nation .
Barbarians running free , looting everything that come in their way .

I hope such acts are never repeated . But anyway , We lack power to stop Barbarians .
Barbarians are always smaller in number but some how dominate the majority .

Takshilla and Patliputra were the two important center for the knowledge including medicine, mathematics, science, religious and spiritual knowledge which was destroyed by the Muslim invaders.
The father of Medicine Charak -- During alexandra attack none of the greek soldier died due to snake bite, because they took indian physicians. During the Exam of Charak in Taxilla, charak could not find a single plant in whole week, whoose medicinal value he didn't know.

But why did the Muslim Invaders were sucessful, it was because of the popularity of the Budhism among the people which choose Ahinsa over the voilence.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

But why did the Muslim Invaders were sucessful, it was because of the popularity of the Budhism among the people which choose Ahinsa over the voilence.

Buddhism as the state religion is one of the most popular reasons behind our invasion ,that I have heard .
Another reason behind that is us fighting each other .

 

[Baby-5]

That is the saddest thing that has happened with every society , culture and Nation .
Barbarians running free , looting everything that come in their way .

I hope such acts are never repeated . But anyway , We lack power to stop Barbarians .
Barbarians are always smaller in number but some how dominate the majority .

What do you think, that the scenario has changed??? We are still the same "tolerance" loving people who cant even differentiate tolerance from cowardinace.

 

[asad71]

History tells us Bihar was thriving only when it was with Bengal.

 

[zebra7]

Buddhism as the state religion is one of the most popular reasons behind our invasion ,that I have heard .
Another reason behind that is us fighting each other .

@Coco boy He is the one who can fight the odd

History tells us Bihar was thriving only when it was with Bengal.

Which History Bengali or Canadian ??

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

What do you think, that the scenario has changed??? We are still the same "tolerance" loving people who cant even differentiate tolerance from cowardinace.

Not much has changed , We are still the oppressed in the name of pseudo secularism .
We still fight with our people just like in the age of Empires .

 

[Baby-5]

Buddhism as the state religion is one of the most popular reasons behind our invasion ,that I have heard .
Another reason behind that is us fighting each other .

It seems, Buddhists from Burma have learned (Rohingyas), But Hindus, not yet.

Not much has changed , We are still the oppressed in the name of pseudo secularism .
We still fight with our people just like in the age of Empires .

The worst part is, we are our own enemies.

History tells us Bihar was thriving only when it was with Bengal.

Bengal was under control of magadha and later Pataliputra (patna) till 5th century AD. In Medival indian history Niether Bengal nor Bihar has that much importance, and after 1606, Bihar was never "thriving"

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

The worst part is, we are our own enemies.

That part I totally agree .

 

[raktaka]

What I hear about Bihar's Past is Glorious . The center of India's greatest Empire .

But over the 2000 year period , What has went wrong ???

As a Kashmiri Pandit You should be asking

KASHMIR, What went Wrong ?

Start from 2000 years back.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

As a Kashmiri Pandit You should be asking

KASHMIR, What went Wrong ?

Start from 2000 years back.

Yup !!! But no one listens and We are not a Fighting race .
That is why we called for the help of Sikh Gurus .

Only recently , We have started Fighting back .

 

[raktaka]

Yup !!! But no one listens and We are not a Fighting race .
That is why we called for the help of Sikh Gurus .

Only recently , We have started Fighting back .

Spare me your Sobbing and certainly don't expect sympathy for your Wimpy behaviour.

Why don't you start by telling us what went wrong in Kashmir ?

 

[Grevion]

1- Casteism
2- Caste based politics done by likes of lalu and congress (muslim-yadav MY samikaran- as our media calls it.)
3- Lack of a strong leader after Jai Prakash Narayan.
4- Ignorance of the center since independence.
ps- this thread should have been what went wrong with UP and Bihar.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Spare me your Sobbing and certainly don't expect sympathy for your Wimpy behaviour.

Why don't you start by telling us what went wrong in Kashmir ?

I was born after the Militancy , so what I know is only heard from my Community .

Selective Killing of Kashmiri pandits like Teachers , Professors , Leaders etc . ( During 1980's )
Posters and News articles , Ordering us to convert to Islam , Leave or Die .
Many women and Girls were raped .

Almost same happened in 1947 .
Only difference was , IN 1947 , Tribals were killing , rapping and lotting anyone that came in their path .

Well back in the history , When we were in majority . One Muslim ruler , forcefully converted us and burnt 2 tons of sacred thread that we wore . And then Came Aurenzab , for which we asked help from Sikh Gurus and they sacrificed themselves for us .

In short in our history only Sikhs came forward to help us and one reason why we have not gone extinct .

 

[punit]

There is no lack of strong leadership in Bihar as we have seen Lalu Yadav and Nitish Kumar ruling either in state or the union govt. since last 25 years. In fact, just before union elections Nitish Kumar was being touted as next PM of India and Lalu Yadav had also expressed his similar ambitions.

Colonial exploitation was universal in India during the british rule, so this too cant be a valid reason. So we are left with casteism and other social reasons behind its backwardness. Although casteism is still prevalent in all over India but I have never seen so much as its in Bihar. Along with caste its criminal bent of mind there. I have known a lot of Biharis during my college days and I noticed that feeling of casteism in them were nose deep. They were very friendly among themselves but behind their backs they named and abused everyone for their castes. Secondly, they always took pride in breaking the law, such as not respecting trafic signals or getting in a queueu... as if it was below their dignity. Thirdly, they always wondered how come public property is intact and not damaged or stolen. They would be proud that in Bihar public properties would be stolen within minutes. Fourthly, all they could think of was power - political, muscle or bureaucratic. IAS was their dream that too only for dowry and power or alternatively politics or govt. contracts. They loved talking about political bahubalis or political murders. Nothing Else.

To me, all these were nausiating and I knew that Bihar wont make any progress with this generation. However, now when I meet the youngters from Bihar, they are a changed lot. This generation's thought process and attitude is much different from their previous generation. They dont hesitate to admit their shortcomings and express their shame. I can now say that Bihar will be a completely changed state after 10-20 years.

there was so much hope from Lalu when he arrived on scene in late 80's. he was a charismatic leader with exteme sharp mind very few in India who can humble the great Indian bureaucracy ... but hopes vanished soon when power got into his head.
Nitish Kumar started of brilliantly in his first term and there was so much hope and he did fulfill it to an extent. problem started in his second term when Post of CM becomes too small for him and he stated aiming for PM post.
But more than leaders biharis like us are also responsible for this mess. whatever u said in post is absolutely correct.

 

[raktaka]

I was born after the Militancy , so what I know is only heard from my Community .

Selective Killing of Kashmiri pandits like Teachers , Professors , Leaders etc . ( During 1980's )
Posters and News articles , Ordering us to convert to Islam , Leave or Die .
Many women and Girls were raped .

Almost same happened in 1947 .
Only difference was , IN 1947 , Tribals were killing , rapping and lotting anyone that came in their path .

Well back in the history , When we were in majority . One Muslim ruler , forcefully converted us and burnt 2 tons of sacred thread that we wore . And then Came Aurenzab , for which we asked help from Sikh Gurus and they sacrificed themselves for us .

In short in our history only Sikhs came forward to help us and one reason why we have not gone extinct .

Your date of birth is irrelevant.

You seem more keen to know about BIHAR than the history of Kashmir. I gave you an opportunity to speak on it or ask others and you declined by giving some 6th grade essay. Then you say no one listens to you.

Why BIHAR ? Why not KASHMIR ?