Big tourism plans in store for Bangladesh .

[UKBengali]

Please teach me how to speak, read and write in English, Bengali, Urdu/Hindi, and Japanese. And do not beat about the bush. Learn about the world and do not keep yourself within your ghetto mind. I have become almost used to the way you start personal attacks whenever you cannot refute my arguments. You lose two times. One by losing in arguments and the other by making personal attacks. You are such a hopeless idiot!!

Says the moron that uses crap English first to start personal attacks.

Unlike you I do not need to show-off about my language skills. I am confident in my own knowledge.

I hope your Japanese is better than your English. Lol

Lol.. Lookie here.. Who's back.. Thought you were going to ignore my posts bub.. Couldn't keep away could ya ? The pleasure of getting bitch slapped is too much to avoid huh ?

Learnt and learned are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Both are acceptable, Just that Aussies and Brits use Learnt.. But then again what would a little dish washer know about English grammar, Better stick to your shitty CGI Little Bongle, When are you going to show us atleast a half decent render of one of your fantasy buildings that never come up ?

Btw even if it's true, To get the Dole you need to be legitimate citizen of the country not some illegal little pissant hiding away behind a "Ïndian" curry house.. Before talking about immigrants to developed nations try and get accepted in India and Pakistan atleast.. But no one really want your stinky little arses anywhere.. Illegal fence jumpers dont get the Dole

India wants you lot to feck off
Pakistan wants you lot to feck off
and now even Myanmar is fecking your lot off their country..

You still not got the message and posting? Lol

Unlike @Nilgiri you are boring. Please buzz off to your forum
that is completely boring.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Eit's, no no no...

One of the unspoken rules in Indonesia: Never say that there is a 'core' and a mere 'territory'. Some Indonesians become very pissed off, since it implies that some Indonesians are more important than others. I am among them.

My apology then. I did not know about the emotion behind this two term.

While Java is the most populated and most invested in, it can be argued that other areas, such as Papua, receive better funds allocation per population. Papua has less than 2% of the national pop, and yet receives more than 4% of the national budget. Does that mean that Papua has it better than Java?

very good for Indonesia. This is the way to maintain national solidarity, specially in a multicultural country like Indonesia. No part of the country should feel discriminated.Rather poorer region should receive some incentive from the central govt. I would say, Indonesia is one the prime example before the world on how to maintain a peaceful co-existence among various ethnicity, religion and culture.

The area of Java holds more than 60% of the population, and yet, has proportionally less money spent on it. Is that fair?

As an outsider, I can not comment on whether it is fair or not as I do not know the details.But on a superficial glance it seems logical that a more developed part of the country will subsidize the less developed part of the country. Developmental gradient with more developed, less developed region exist in all countries, a democratic and inclusive govt. will try to minimize those gap through various means.

It's an unending argument I'd prefer you not open. Especially since I could easily claim that Bangladesh also has a 'Core' area that sucks up all the taxes and gives nothing back to the 'outer' areas. Even the World Bank calls BD one of the most centralised countries in the world.

I did not called Java more developed in any negative connotation. I only invoked the importance of Java in Indonesian economy. Every country has more or less this unequal development among the regions irrespective of whether it is a highly developed country like USA or a poor country like Bangladesh.

On the world bank report, I guess, it may be due to the fact that Bangladesh is a unitary state, there is no state or province in Bangladesh and provincial or state govt do not exist.There is only one govt. in Dhaka and they raise all the tax and spend that money as their priority.

Meanwhile, using 2017 data, Indonesian central government transfers about (Dana Alokasi Umum/ General Allocation Funds) 20% of its spending money to local governments (410.8 T IDR out of 2133.2 T IDR). Those are full autonomous spending not including village funds (60 T IDR out of 2133.2 T IDR) whose usage is fully autonomous on the village level and amounts to 3% of the national budget.

Then comes Indonesia's local government spending, of which 24% comes from their own revenues, 66% from Central Government transfers, and about 9% financed through other means.

Added all together, the total spending of Indonesian Local Governments was equal to IDR 1098 T IDR. Which when compared to the National Government Spending of 2133.2 T IDR means that in total local governments spend about half of what the central government does, mores when taking into account central government fund transfers to the local government. This is a sign of real autonomy, i.e, autonomy of spending. Also proves that Indonesia

Furthermore, 1098 T IDR when compared to Indonesia's total GDP of 13,588.8 T means that 8% of total Indonesian GDP is local government spending. Compare that to 1% of GDP of local BD governments.

If we compare notes, then, monetarily speaking Indonesian Central Government cares for the local governments 8x more than the Bangladeshi Central Government.

Very good.

Stop comparing Indonesia to Bangladesh.

I actually tried to explore similarity between Indonesia and Bangladesh. I consider Indonesia to be a brotherly country.

 

[Gibbs]

Unlike @Nilgiri you are boring. Please buzz off to your forum
that is completely boring.

Lol.. Little Bongle I'm not here to entertain you, I'm here to bust your little deluded bubbles.. Your's and your batty boy Shitty CGI's.. Suck it up, There's nothing you can do about it..

 

[Logam42]

My apology then. I did not know about the emotion behind this two term.

very good for Indonesia. This is the way to maintain national solidarity, specially in a multicultural country like Indonesia. No part of the country should feel discriminated.Rather poorer region should receive some incentive from the central govt. I would say, Indonesia is one the prime example before the world on how to maintain a peaceful co-existence among various ethnicity, religion and culture.

As an outsider, I can not comment on whether it is fair or not as I do not know the details.But on a superficial glance it seems logical that a more developed part of the country will subsidize the less developed part of the country. Developmental gradient with more developed, less developed region exist in all countries, a democratic and inclusive govt. will try to minimize those gap through various means.

I did not called Java more developed in any negative connotation. I only invoked the importance of Java in Indonesian economy. Every country has more or less this unequal development among the regions irrespective of whether it is a highly developed country like USA or a poor country like Bangladesh.

On the world bank report, I guess, it may be due to the fact that Bangladesh is a unitary state, there is no state or province in Bangladesh and provincial or state govt do not exist.There is only one govt. in Dhaka and they raise all the tax and spend that money as their priority.

Very good.

I actually tried to explore similarity between Indonesia and Bangladesh. I consider Indonesia to be a brotherly country.

I apologise, today's been a long day and the only times Indonesian 'core' territory is bought up in Australian media its always talking about discrimination and separatism. Rereading your post I realise it had nothing inflammatory about it, it was my fault for jumping to conclusions.

Sorry about that.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

I apologise, today's been a long day and the only times Indonesian 'core' territory is bought up in Australian media its always talking about discrimination and separatism. Rereading your post I realise it had nothing inflammatory about it, it was my fault for jumping to conclusions.

Sorry about that.

No hurt feeling.Cheer up

 

[UKBengali]

Lol.. Little Bongle I'm not here to entertain you, I'm here to bust your little deluded bubbles.. Your's and your batty boy Shitty CGI's.. Suck it up, There's nothing you can do about it..

You are really boring dude. Posts send me to sleep before I even get to the end.
So sad you spend your free time taking so much interest in another country where it has been made clear your contribution is not wanted.

 

[Nilgiri]

Bangladesh is improving, and tbh, judging from current revenues, there is still a lot of potential. Judging by the articles posted, the BD gov apparently has a comprehensive plan to do so: Improving Access, Improving Facilities, and focusing on Cultural Tourism.

This is a good plan. Ofc, some random people on the internet also claim that wilderness tourism will also be a huge boost.

Coming from an Indonesian here.

IT WON'T.

Reasons:

1. Convenience, tourists are here to have a holiday, to relax. Of course, a few might have a weird definition of 'relaxation' but by and large it doesn't mean camping it out in the boonies.
2. Access, the thing about wilderness tourism. Once access is good, it ceases to be 'Wilderness Tourism'.
3. Income generation, Like seriously, Wilderness Tourism doesn't really generate money, which is the point of tourism. Even national parks barely make any money, its more like conservation of nature with a small side income attached.
4. Conservation, all too often people who are willing to pay big bucks are trophy hunters.

There's a reason its the random dude on the internet making claims and not the actual BD government. The government apparently knows better.

I'd prefer not to compare Indonesia to BD, it's like comparing Apples to Melons. Let's just leave it at that and not get into a pissing contest.

I actually tagged you and @pr1v4t33r to enquire about your opinions on Papua tourism scene (last part of my earlier reply)...is there a better thread for that you think?

 

[Nilgiri]

@waz @WAJsal @The Eagle please clear the offtopic and troll posts. tyvm

Pro-tip: never start that which you cannot finish in first place.

 

[Logam42]

Pro-tip: never start that which you cannot finish in first place.

Better start a new thread. I'd rather not derail more

 

[Bilal9]

I think it's the most practical thing to do now. Let's face it BD is not exactly a place where white people would love to enjoy their vacation.

Your consistently posting against Bangladesh (with a Bangladesh flag no less) is getting annoying. I am going to consider you a fifth columnist or worse - a non-Bangladeshi going by your posts. Other Bangladeshis know it as well. I would ask you to prove that you are really a Bangladeshi, but I don't have the time to waste on you.

Bangladesh really needs a Stalinist style purge to rid itself of fake 'Bangladeshis' and other subcontinental detritus that have started to gravitate to Bangladesh as conditions have started to get better here.

 

[bluesky]

I hope your Japanese is better than your English. Lol[/QUOTE]
It seems you are very angry with me the reason of which I do not really know. Is it because I do not agree with your precious viewpoints? Now calm down, please!!

You are really boring dude. Posts send me to sleep before I even get to the end.
So sad you spend your free time taking so much interest in another country where it has been made clear your contribution is not wanted.

You do not like people to have interest in BD, yet you want millions of tourists here. How it is possible then to show them crocodiles? Are you alright? I am worried about your mental health dude.

 

[Bilal9]

I'd prefer not to compare Indonesia to BD, it's like comparing Apples to Melons. Let's just leave it at that and not get into a pissing contest.

I see that you have realized that this famous Indian troll always resident in our forum (who tagged you) had almost succeeded in deluding you and as he does, derailed this thread in the Bangladesh section like he does every other thread. Thanks go to him for fostering the direct hate most Bangladeshis have in their heart for India.

He tries this with Chinese folks and other posters from other countries as well. But feeble as he is - most posters see through his tricks. Some unfortunate souls don't. He has gained quite a few troll 'friends' like this and turned them against our country in general in this forum - in order to derail threads.

The thing I was pointing out about Indonesia (which this troll made a huge misleading fodder out of) was that the level of corruption has little direct correlation with development, as in Indonesia's case. I have known quite high level govt. officials (and my Indonesian friends in the US as well whom I consider as my brothers and sisters) who pointed out govt. corruption as endemic in both our countries. This is expected because of low govt. pay and other factors.

I speak a few words of Bahasa Indonesia myself and take an avid interest in Indonesian matters (culture, geography as well as industry, esp. defense and aviation industry). I have no delusion about comparing Bangladesh economy to that of Indonesia although in some cases Bangladesh has scored HDI KPI's which compare quite favorably to that of Indonesia.

Indonesia IS a brotherly Muslim-majority country (though both of our countries are secular and fighting Islamic extremism) and CAN be a development partner where we supplement and complement each other's strengths and weaknesses. It was never my intent to smear Indonesia's name.

 

[DarkPrince]

Your consistently posting against Bangladesh (with a Bangladesh flag no less) is getting annoying. I am going to consider you a fifth columnist or worse - a non-Bangladeshi going by your posts. Other Bangladeshis know it as well. I would ask you to prove that you are really a Bangladeshi, but I don't have the time to waste on you.

Bangladesh really needs a Stalinist style purge to rid itself of fake 'Bangladeshis' and other subcontinental detritus that have started to gravitate to Bangladesh as conditions have started to get better here.

Lol a 300 taka tea drinker calling me a fake Bengali. Do you know why Indians are highest earning americans? Because they are sending their best to USA. While from Bangladesh mostly corrupt politicians/businessmen and their useless sons are going to USA or Canada with stolen money. No wonder Bangladeshi Americans are poorest community there. Batpari ar beimani toh sob jaygay chole na.

 

[Nilgiri]

lol, yeah I mind controlled CGI stronk taka tea douche to write this out of the blue:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chattogram-witnessing-topmost-development.561722/page-5#post-10576754

I've been to govt. offices in Jakarta where bribe amounts are printed and posted on the wall.

...and then @Logam42 stomped your little b!tch *** claim in so good:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chattogram-witnessing-topmost-development.561722/page-7#post-10576986

Now if you are so lovey-dovey with Indonesia, give that reply a thumbs up and prove it little man.

Please take the advice from logam:

please, making fake claims such as yours is both dishonest and unnecessary.

@Gibbs @Mage @bluesky @Marine Rouge

Heck mage called it out perfectly lol:

so After Sri Lankans, Bilal has now managed to piss of the Indonesians as well. Good job, lad. I wonder who else he's gonna call as false flaggers.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chattogram-witnessing-topmost-development.561722/page-7#post-10577989

Lol a 300 taka tea drinker calling me a fake Bengali. Do you know why Indians are highest earned americans? Because they are sending their best to USA. While from Bangladesh mostly corrupt politicians and their useless sons are going to USA and canada with stolen money. No wonder Bangladeshi americans are poorest community there. Batpari ar beimani toh sob jaygay chole na.

Welcome to the growing list lol.... the guy has completely lost it.....1 slight criticism of BD on anything and you are false flagger now. His nerves are a wreck ever since I got a mod to ban that little turd for advertising his own STRONK groupthink forum.....and to give him a warning over pushing his conspiracy theories that bluesky = indian = me in some combo.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Indonesia overall is doing good balance act I find....I have not ventured East of Lombok yet...but plan to do so....recently I watched some ppl visiting as far east as sumba and west timor. BTW how developed would you say is the tourism sector in papua (irian jaya)?

@pr1v4t33r @Logam42

Compared to the western part of Indonesia.. it's quite minimal, except maybe a few selected spot like Raja Ampat. Despite the surge of infrastructure development in recent years (new Airports, ports, roads & bridges, even new massive border posts) it's still far from enough to support thriving tourism industry, since Papua development start from a very low base even nonexistent for most part. Papua doesn't lack of attractions, but it has limited access and very few choice of amenities to be comfortable for most casual tourists, and it cost a lot.