kya hogaya hai, its an urdu word.
Walaikum salam and yes there isn't any subtelty i can even give one more concrete example from our recent history
Would you kindly elaborate
U didn't get my point. First of all let me tell you that afghanistan was found before 150 years as a consequence of durrand line and by that time current pak. pakhuns were already settled in N.W.F.P of that time as pashtuns have history of more than 1000 years so how can they claim that pakistani(and all other) pashtuns are actually afghanistani when the age of aghanistan is 10 times less than history/age of pathans. And my point of proud was also meant to be for the time period after the formation of afghanistan.
Prepare a list of similarities between Afghanistani and Pakistani Pashtuns. Give it a try. If you come up with four differences between 'lar o bar' Pakhtana , the 'Afghanistani' will come up with 14 or 140 similarities. If you try to use history to point out differences, they are also going to use history to point out similarities.
Tanoli, Swati and Parachgan are not Pashtuns. Kakars are also found in Afghanistan. Durrani have more to do with Afghanistan than Pakistan. You are failing from the get go.
Some of the tribes mentioned by you arrived in present-day KP because of the same nomadic life style you are ascribing to 'Afghanistanis'. In fact most of hill tribes of Pashtuns in present-day Pakistan had nomadic life style like Ghilzais not long ago. For example in 1867 Waziri tribes of Waziristan are described to have a life style like Pawandahs/Kuchis, moving to plains in winter and to hills in summer.
The same ' wild' hill tribes of Waziristan had earlier gone to Afghanistan in 1929 to help Nadir Khan against Bacha-i-Saqao, playing the same mercenary role that they played later in Kashmir.
You are trying to come up with some sort of ' two nation theory', that Lar and Bar Pashtuns are different breeds with different histories. Thats not going to work because your Afghanistani opponents will give you a long list of similarities between lar o bar Pakhtana and will give you details of shared and common history. The only way an Afghanistani Pashtun might be turned off and give up on Lar Pashtuns, if you convince Pakistani Pashtuns to give up on their Pashto language and culture and adopt Punjabi language and culture. If you convince Pakistani Pashtuns to start wearing dhoti and marry Punjabis on such a mass scale that they become indistinguishable from Punjabis in looks and traits .............then Afghanistani Pashtuns will have no appetite for unity with their Punjabized population on other side of Durand.
Prepare a list of similarities between Afghanistani and Pakistani Pashtuns. Give it a try. If you come up with four differences between 'lar o bar' Pakhtana , the 'Afghanistani' will come up with 14 or 140 similarities. If you try to use history to point out differences, they are also going to use history to point out similarities.
Tanoli, Swati and Parachgan are not Pashtuns. Kakars are also found in Afghanistan. Durrani have more to do with Afghanistan than Pakistan. You are failing from the get go.
Some of the tribes mentioned by you arrived in present-day KP because of the same nomadic life style you are ascribing to 'Afghanistanis'. In fact most of hill tribes of Pashtuns in present-day Pakistan had nomadic life style like Ghilzais not long ago. For example in 1867 Waziri tribes of Waziristan are described to have a life style like Pawandahs/Kuchis, moving to plains in winter and to hills in summer.
What do you mean by ' nothing to be proud of' ? . Are you saying that the settlements in blessed and sacred land of KP set apart them from 'Afghanistanis'?. Did Yousafzais grow two horns and a tail when settled in Peshawar valley?
The same ' wild' hill tribes of Waziristan had earlier gone to Afghanistan in 1929 to help Nadir Khan against Bacha-i-Saqao, playing the same mercenary role that they played later in Kashmir.
You are trying to come up with some sort of ' two nation theory', that Lar and Bar Pashtuns are different breeds with different histories. Thats not going to work because your Afghanistani opponents will give you a long list of similarities between lar o bar Pakhtana and will give you details of shared and common history. The only way an Afghanistani Pashtun might be turned off and give up on Lar Pashtuns, if you convince Pakistani Pashtuns to give up on their Pashto language and culture and adopt Punjabi language and culture. If you convince Pakistani Pashtuns to start wearing dhoti and marry Punjabis on such a mass scale that they become indistinguishable from Punjabis in looks and traits .............then Afghanistani Pashtuns will have no appetite for unity with their Punjabized population on other side of Durand.
@Sarah Ahmadzai
Who told you we have appetite for unity with gandos of Afghanistan.then Afghanistani Pashtuns will have no appetite for unity with their Punjabized population on other side of Durand.
I am not claiming to be any scholar secondly, i belong from Baffa, Mansehra(formerly known as pakhali sarkal esp. in gandhara civilization) in K.P.K. I live in Islamabad and am brought up in a pashtun environment/culture. Ethnically our tribe is persian not afghan but there are so many parachas settled in kpk so i quoted them in that context and can't say anything about tanolis though according to history they have come from present afghanistan. The reason i have opened this discussion is because of hatred of afghanis and their views that pakistan is punjabi dominant or controlled area. Although this doesn't matter but when they become ally with india and allow them use their soil against pakistan and as a consequence paktuns of pakistan suffer examples are attack of APS and university of charsada then we have problem. Now the point that i am saying over here is that paktun tribes of pakistan and paktun tribes of afghanistan have become quite different gradually with the passage of time. Although they have same history but that was a long time ago and when afghanistan was formed before 150 years all were already settled in both sides of durrand line. Pakistani pashtuns have their culture and it is very robust which gives beauty to diversity of pakistan and should not be at any cost left. But aghanis should understand that pakisatni pashtuns are unit of pakistan which can never be separated.
