Biden wants Pakistan to "do more" in Afghanistan

[FuturePAF]

We are doing MORE. That is why the americans are now leaving Afghanistan...........

They probably think Pakistan is Scotty from Star Trek.

On a serious note, considering how much the Afghans are for upholding their own honor (Americans should have learned this from watching Rambo III, considering how Americans learn about most history from movies) It’s looking like they are looking to “dog walk” the US out after May 1st. Consider the US is leaving, they may, perhaps, make deals with local Talib commanders to hand over the bases directly to them and not the ANA, as protection while they draw down. Although trust is obviously not there between the parties.

Urban Dictionary: Dog Walk

(verb) When you’re beating someone’s *** and you’re dragging them as if you were walking a dog.

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[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Watch from 8:53

Joe Biden's full speech: US to withdraw troops from Afghanistan - CNN Video

President Joe Biden explains why he's ordering US troops to leave Afghanistan, a decision that would end the United States' longest war.

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Say "No more" to do more

After this Biden speech, Let's see if this General and IK have the guts to raise a middle finger, or as per their tradition they will bend backwards for the US. There is a reason why the Chinese FM stood in Iran and said that Iran is a Principled country, and not a Banana Republic like one 'Neighboring Country' which changes its entire policy when it gets a phone call from the US. He was clearly pointing to Pakistan obviously.

He was pointing towards india who stopped buying Oil from Iran.. but aap jeso ko urta teer pasand ata he

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

During syrian civil war, there were hundreds of small armed groups with conflicted interests, but few main alliances; pkk, isis, al nusra, hts, southern front fsa, coastal front fsa, hezbollah. Each of them were hating Turkey, becauae they already got masters, from US to Saudis, from UAE to France, Iran to Germany.

Turkey created pro-Turkish syrian factions out of thin air, and our front grows each year. If Pakistani intel asks, im sure MİT would be more than happy to share its experiences.

Its not such an easy task to defend border zone from zero line, specially when opposite side is being controlled by hostile groups. Its a lot more easier to secure the borders if other side of the border is under control of those groups that you are training/feeding/arming/funding.

I wish best luck to Pak army command, they will have a different environment with different dynamics when US terrorists retreat.

Pakistan should start image makeover in Afghanistan as for border areas first fence should be completed in my opinion then some of our agent network should be established beyond borderline in order to stop border attacks

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Na lets demand F22 this time.. shouldn't we ?

 

[TNT]

We will deal with it, meanwhile start packing and make sure the door doesnt hit u in the face while leaving.

 

[ummarz]

Why not turn Afghanistan into a buffer zone and annex the Pashtun areas. It will put any pashtunistan bs to rest forever.

Then we will have a guaranteed and permanent enemy on the western border. Having Pashtun areas right across the border IS our buffer. Just like we are trying to create one on the eastern border by supporting the population right across the border on the Indian side. Ie Punjab.

 

[Nasr]

There is sadly no such thing as Afghanistan. It really doesnt matter even if whole UN members claim that there is such an entity, if it de-facto doesnt exist. You would go to Kabul and would make agreements with people in suit there; those agreements have no value if they wont be executed and applied in real life.

Afghanistan is bunch of different organisations with foreign supports, where some of those groups actually attack Pakistan borders, or smuggle illegal stuff. Making agreements with Kabul then hoping that things will hopefully go well for Pakistani interests is a theory that we foolishly tried in Turkey, costed thousands of lives from both civilians and military in last decade, then we stopped hoping things and started changing things on the ground to create de-facto realities for others to swallow.

Whichever path Pakistan choses, i hope she will be a lot more luckier than Turkey, we didnt have any luck so had to create our own luck.

I have family in Afghanistan, my grandfather is from Qandhar. You're talking about Afghanistan like you know it, you don't. Pukhtuns live on both sides of the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and we know where our loyalty stands. Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran have more in common, than people like to admit. And I say this being a Pukhtun, whose heritage hails from Qandhar.

The problem that plagues all three countries is the Shia-Sunni Issue and as a Muslim, it is important that Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran resolve the Shia-Sunni lunacy, work together toward a stronger future.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Watch from 8:53

Joe Biden's full speech: US to withdraw troops from Afghanistan - CNN Video

President Joe Biden explains why he's ordering US troops to leave Afghanistan, a decision that would end the United States' longest war.

edition.cnn.com

Do more for retreating forces???

Highway of Death - Wikipedia

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[denel]

It doesn't make sense for us to put boots on the ground permanently. We don't have a lot of collateral with Afghanistan, the average Afghan, even Taliban supporter see's Pakistan negatively and those who agree to work with us consider us a neccasary evil, rather than a friend. The only traction we might have is with tribes who span across the border. To put boots on the ground in a tribal society where the idea of being a nation state is completely absent would only invite attacks towards our troops.

We're better off securing our borders and using Afghans who are willing to work with us to try and take over the country. We need to find and support a pro-Pakistan regime, as mentioned by the brother below.



Agreed, but we can't do exactly what we did last time. Last time we propped up a militant group who was willing not to be an enemy to us, this time we need to make sure we work with multiple factions and different power brokers to support some sort of peace and then invite in international partners to help the re-build.

We need to also make use of the large Afghan population in our country and try to support these people to go back to their own country. If we can support towns and cities where our refugee community is from, we can get some traction in Afghanistan. Similarly we need to work to help those tribes who live on either side of our borders and the communities closer to our borders. When things are built in Afghanistan it needs to be foreign funds, Pakistani cement and materials, Pakistani engineers and builders, Afghan labour and ultimately a little plaque or something making everyone know Pakistan helped build this.

secure the borders and engage in helping afghanistan stand on its feet. There is a lot to be gained - business, health and wealth.... prosperity into central asia is needed.

easier said than done; they will be at each other's necks..

 

[truthfollower]

do more to SUPPORT Afghanistan misleading title

 

[maverick1977]

did Biden explain what does do more entails ?
opening borders,
Free trade agreement, investment ?
training afghan army ?
intelligence cooperation ?

what does do more mean ?