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Bibi's speech to the UN (video and text)

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I urge you to re-consider these words and examine if they have real content or if they are merely reflexive cant, the product of generations of brainwashing by the powers-that-be.

We have already extended our hand in peace to Israel yet Israel refuses. It is not us who refuse peace. It is Israel that seeks ultimate war. But this is not the 60s or 70s. And a more powerful player has come to play in any future war. A player that is better equipped and better trained than all past war Arabs.
 
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We have already extended our hand in peace to Israel yet Israel refuses. It is not us who refuse peace. It is Israel that seeks ultimate war. But this is not the 60s or 70s. And a more powerful player has come to play in any future war. A player that is better equipped and better trained than all past war Arabs.

Who is this player you are referring to?
 
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Who is this player you are referring: to?

We are of course. KSA's support was mainly small Number of troops and confined to monatery assistantnce . Now our military is the most powerful on the Arab world. True we still have some holes here and there to fill but it is being filled fast and once the modernization and expansion process finishes then we are easily toe to toe with Israel of not surpassing it.
 
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Without Saudi involvement - even alliance - Israel may attain its military and political objectives but KSA may fail to gain its full objectives.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-africa/210674-entebbe-option.html
From this article its clear that the US will not be involved in any attack on Iran soon. Therefore, Israel is on its own, unless they do what is called "Regime decapitation" which is very unlikely and almost impossible. This explains Bibi's rhetoric of red lines, but its not going to change America's position. So unless Romney wins the election, Israel has no choice but push for more sanctions, since as the article points out Israel is simply incapable of destroying iranian nuclear facilities, because as the US general said Israel will have one and only one shot to destroy them, in and out once. Or send comando elite troops but this too risky and I doubt Israel will try it.
 
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We are of course. KSA's support was mainly small Number of troops and confined to monatery assistantnce . Now our military is the most powerful on the Arab world. True we still have some holes here and there to fill but it is being filled fast and once the modernization and expansion process finishes then we are easily toe to toe with Israel of not surpassing it.

I agree that we are the most powerful in the Arab world. But Israel has nukes. This means they can completely and utterly annihilate you. That's why we should build nukes. Without them there is no MAD between us and Israel. Meaning we are living under the mercy of Israeli politicians.
 
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I agree that we are the most powerful in the Arab world. But Israel has nukes. This means they can completely and utterly annihilate you. That's why we should build nukes. Without them there is no MAD between us and Israel. Meaning we are living under the mercy of Israeli politicians.

Military wise talking in conventional warfare I was speaking but factoring in the Israeli nukes we come up with a different geopolitical reality.

Well Israel has NO strategic depth. Means that Israel militarily speaking has a certain threshold of abuse it can take before it give in in its own territory. Even if they use 1-3 nukes our military capability will not be obliterated. It will be severely damaged no doubt about that but the size of our Country gives us immense strategic depth, and thus more capacity to take abuse before we give in.

So innthe end it goes down to who reaches the other one's first.

And yes I agree with you that we should Counter their nukes with our own, but regarding that particular aspect I am afraid I am unable to say anything further.
 
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Even if they use 1-3 nukes our military capability will not be obliterated.

But they have 200-400 nukes! I doubt that we even have 200 cities:D

And yes I agree with you that we should Counter their nukes with our own, but regarding that particular aspect I am afraid I am unable to say anything further.
;)قلي بالعربي محد يمك​
 
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We have already extended our hand in peace to Israel yet Israel refuses. It is not us who refuse peace.
As I recall, KSA offered "peace" if Israel agreed to commit suicide - that is, taking steps to eliminate its Jewish majority and character and civil rights.

Essentially this meant accepting dhimmi status once more. Under the Ottomans that wasn't so bad but those days are gone and KSA has a history of expelling Jews from the regions it conquers and forbidding open Jewish practice. The credibility gap is thus too large to be bridged.

I'll point out that the Saud's competitors, the Hashemites who now rule Jordan, made a similar offer to the Zionists in the months before independence. That, too, lacked credibility; the Hashemites expelled Jews throughout the areas of their rule, starting in the 1920s.

The Jews don't want to be dhimmis any more. They simply don't deserve the sort of abusive treatment that dhimmi status degenerated to in the eighteenth to twentieth centuries. In my judgment it will take centuries of enlightenment and good conduct by surrounding Arab-majority states before these can be trusted to embrace minorities fully.

And a more powerful player has come to play in any future war. A player that is better equipped and better trained than all past war Arabs.
Exactly. The more power Arabs attain, the more Arabs like yourself want to use it to commit unjustifiable aggression and conquest.

You don't have to remain in the same mind-set as your fathers and grandfathers, cousin.
 
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