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Bhensa has been controlled.

one phrase, i believe shows the mentality of our nation, as the world says,
stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
and in a semi tribal society, like ours we say,
we will take out our sticks and pick stones the moment your words hurt me..
well as it seems to be the collective wisdom of our entire nation that words do more damage then broken bones and cut off ears and noses, such things are justifiable.
where dead rule beyond graves, living will always have a hard time living..
that the story of our society..
Why don't you state your point openly in simple English so that we people of semi-tribal society could understand?
"When ye hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme." [Qur'an 4:140]

"Hold to forgiveness, command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant." [Qur'an 7:199]

"Allah is with those who restrain themselves." [Qur'an 16: 128]

". . . But they uttered blasphemy . . . if they repent, it will be best for them, but if they turn back, Allah will punish them." [Qur'an 9:47]
do it but you're going against Quran.
What are you trying to establish exactly so that I could understand it better?
 
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LOL. Rule of law is practiced in USA, with or without public popularity being a legal consideration. And which veiled hijabi is being referred to - the one that got drunk and lied, or the one who just plain made things up? :D

Trumps views and thoughts are just as protected as anybody else's free speech, no more and no less. Perhaps there is a lesson here for those who still have some faculties left?

Can't even lol when reading about how rule of law is being practiced in US.... Oh wait.... Selective indeed...... That no heed to all racist attacks, there is no terrorist attack until & unless the person is not Muslim especially Pakistani..... Recently pupil shot classmates but was mentioned whether he is a Christian or Jew etc except Muslim white male...... Oh wait... Great laws on paper and presentation.... US asking for law in other countries may also look at Palestine but oh wait..... That is about Muslims so no need ....But...... Badmouth, blasphemers, provoking others gone missing and police arrived to talk about law..... Senator Rabbani politely reminded about such people to mind your own business as in other words, watch your own house and the law implementation but oh wait...... When it comes to a Muslim woman attacked and justice..... Has been turned into drunken and what not ....Indeed, a victim card usually played as an excuse...M freedom of speech....M oh wait man opposed Trump but thrown out of campaign gathering/during speech...... Freedom of speech means not to forget ethics, limits and be respected ... But oh wait.... It's US... US has the law but black man killed in suspicion being black.... Freedom of speech that widely insulting others including black, Muslims but not others.... Law that never share Criminal religion or colour if he is not Black or Muslim.... Coming from the country that history is full with illegal activities against native Americans..... Oh slavery..... Many lessons learned but still meddling in others affairs that even so-called educated lot is blinded due to selective reading and mindset.....Oh selective reading reminds me about WMDs in Iraq killed thousands, hanged the leader on so-called forged story of public demand and law yet caused a never ending unrest and chaos.... Oh ... It's US so don't speak about..... Nor to lol.....

Whosoever try to insult Islam and Pakistan, will face the Justice after arrest. Our land, our law, our people and if somebody wants to be the cheerleader for such anti-Pakistan and anti-Islam cults, US & UK invoke any jurisdiction before any Court of LAW to prove otherwise, let us handle our matters.
 
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What are you trying to establish exactly so that I could understand it better?
That we can't punish those retards for blasphemy because it's against teachings of Quran and Prophet (remember he spared a whole city who insulted him threw stones at him?) BUT we can and we should punish/hang them for anti Pak activity and for supporting terrorist organizations.
 
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Whosoever try to insult Islam and Pakistan, will face the Justice after arrest. Our land, our law, our people and if somebody wants to be the cheerleader for such anti-Pakistan and anti-Islam cults, US & UK invoke any jurisdiction before any Court of LAW to prove otherwise, let us handle our matters.

Good. What law in Pakistan gives the authority to abduct citizens without presenting charges in a court of law? Who has arrested them? What are the charges? Where is the law here?

BUT we can and we should punish/hang them for anti Pak activity and for supporting terrorist organizations.

Okay. What is the evidence for accusing them of these charges?
 
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People don't understand that protecting ideological boundaries of Pakistan is equally important..

Pakistan was separated from India on the basis of two nation theory. There was a reason that people voted for "Muslim" Leagues demand of a separate state for Muslims where they could follow their religion without any hurdle or fear of persecution.

There is a reason Quaid e Azam and Allama Iqbal defended Ghazi Alam Deen Shaheed despite knowing he was the killer of a blasphemer. So much clarity how our Quaid would have behaved had he seen such material circulating on social media today. These people should not even call themselves Pakistanis as the founders of this country sided with a killer of a blasphemer.

Don't know why some Pakistanis only want to defend the physical boundaries, not the ideological sanctity. They make huge noise when someone tears apart the copies of constitution, but say that it is ok to not condemn if someone disrespects Quran.. For them Pakistani flag is more important than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). They have forgotten that Pakistan is actually Islam.. Either they should go back in time and "enlighten" Quaid and Allama Iqbal, and all other leaders that what they were standing for was in fact a mirage. Real objective was to implement atheism and free speech even if it had resulted in insulting religions. They would have immediately told these supporters of scumbags that if this was the case, why strive for a separate country? Lets continue to live in Mutahida Hindustan.

Free speech doesn't mean that you start insulting prophets and religion and when you get nabbed, start crying foul. Pakistan is fortunately Islami Jamhoria Pakistan. The constitution gives rights to all the minorities but also the laws have been made to punish those who insult Islam. And these laws are the laws of land, based on the true ideology of Pakistan. Anyone who has any problem should just leave or keep their mouths shut.
Your post deserves a positive rating. Lots of respect.
 
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Good. What law in Pakistan gives the authority to abduct citizens without presenting charges in a court of law? Who has arrested them? What are the charges? Where is the law here?



Okay. What is the evidence for accusing them of these charges?

These are mere allegations but repeating the same again & again, despite replied several times, actually describes the real anxiety and desperation to malign Pakistan and Authorities because, no one abducted them but they are missing, gone,,, poofff..... So let them be arrested first then all the allegations, charges, who arrested, the law, the punishment, Court verdict etc everything will be shared...... So all this comes next when arrested..... Till then, authorities are looking into the matter...... contrary to what few media house bad-mouths are propagating....

In layman's terms, they are not arrested so there are no details of their whereabouts... Who abducted, is still unknown.... Because they are missing and none claimed their abduction etc hence, an assumption... Keep watching.... Details will be shared....
 
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lol...... Don't want to write, but in this forum people don't know , in Pakistani Universities a huge majority of teaching class is atheist. These people there for decades
Didn't seen a single one. Don't know which universities are you talking about.
 
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Keep watching.... Details will be shared....

That is indeed encouraging. I look forward to further information that will clarify the situation.

Please do keep in mind that those who make citizens go "poofff" are the ones disgracing Pakistan, and the ones demanding the rule of law are the ones upholding national dignity.
 
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You could've been banned or maybe it's just a bug but let me tag @Zaki try signing in/out and pls don't call me sir yr :p
P.S it's 19th jan @Zibago View attachment 369521
Wait I was suppose to die today :-//

lol..... o come one ....just ignore such type of pages, hundreds of pages run on FB daily and close. Who cares ...... seriously are we spending so much time discussing such pages.??????.... lol.

lol...... Don't want to write, but in this forum people don't know , in Pakistani Universities a huge majority of teaching class is atheist. These people there for decades
Ah come on two of our lecturers were supporters of Qadri I cant recall a single incident where a teacher was Atheist pata nahi kon ye chorta hay

That is indeed encouraging. I look forward to further information that will clarify the situation.

Please do keep in mind that those who make citizens go "poofff" are the ones disgracing Pakistan, and the ones demanding the rule of law are the ones upholding national dignity.
Traitors going "poof" is a good thing :D
US had a right wing awakening they will ignore events in Pakistan :-)
They wish to have a hands-off foreign policy approach
 
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Logic is used when Logic is presented. If people start creating nonsense like this then "Sword" is the way to go.


Emotional and immature response which hinders dialogue.

1. If you were baited by professional trolls (Bhensa, Tarq Fata, etc.) on social media, you should respond by ridiculing them. Create a parody account and troll them back. However, if you respond by threatening violence then you give them power over yourself. And, this is exactly the way they want you to respond, i.e., violence or "sword'.

2. Because you responded with violence, the news is no longer about blasphemy and the conversation turns from limitations of Freedom of Speech to, "You broke the law! You're violent!" You have essentially given more ammo to your critics and disarmed your supporters despite the fact that they were wronged and have a valid point, i.e., Bhensa broke the laws in the first place.

3. The "sword" has never solved any problems. If anything, you turn the freaks into martyrs. Look at Salmaan Taseer. It no longer matters if he was corrupt or a cheat, Qadri has turned him into a liberal saint and a martyr overnight. That's dumb in my opinion.

Putting logic and narratives aside, what bothers me about the "sword" argument is that we are told, from a young age, the story when Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) was mistreated by an old women and he never responded to her. In fact, Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) visited her when she was sick. Compare your response with this and two couldn't be more different.

I apologise in advance if anything I said was harsh.
 
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Wait I was suppose to die today :-//


Ah come on two of our lecturers were supporters of Qadri I cant recall a single incident where a teacher was Atheist pata nahi kon ye chorta hay


Traitors going "poof" is a good thing :D
US had a right wing awakening they will ignore events in Pakistan :-)
They wish to have a hands-off foreign policy approach
They never expose , until yo so close to them. Punjab University is big example, its divided between Jamati and non Jamati teaching class.
 
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