Bhensa has been controlled.

[Mrc]

بڑی گہری نگاہ رکھتے ہیں یار آپ تو

ماسیوں کو ہٹا دیا جائے تو کل ملا کے تین لیڈیز کا احتجاج ہے یہ​

wo bhi paid hain brother

 

[VCheng]

Denying holocaust is jailable offence in Uk and US

USA has absolutely no laws denying the Holocaust. Deny all anyone wants! The First Amendment works equally for all points of view.

 

[Mrc]

USA has absolutely no laws denying the Holocaust. Deny all anyone wants! The First Amendment works equally for all points of view.

Well thanks...what law was enforced when they invaded iraq for oil and killed half a million people... enlighten us

 

[VCheng]

they invaded iraq for oil

USA imports NO oil from Iraq.

They are accused of posting material on their page is blasphemous.

So where is the Charge Sheet? What is the process defined under law for dealing with such alleged miscreants? Why is that law not being followed?

 

[Mrc]

USA imports NO oil from Iraq.

really.... this is getting some where... so they did it because they like lying to UN security council, fun of united nations, and kill half a million people in direct action and another million in indirect (ISIS and Syrian war).....

its all for fun was it?

so this is lawfull and a missing b@stard in Pakistan probably taken away by his handlers is a shame.......

come to senses and than debate if you like

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

USA has absolutely no laws denying the Holocaust. Deny all anyone wants! The First Amendment works equally for all points of view.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

 

[VCheng]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

Has anyone actually read that link?

In the United States, the First Amendment to the United States Constitution establishes freedom of expression and protects virtually all speech (including "hate speech")."

By country

• 2.1Australia
• 2.2Austria
• 2.3Belgium
• 2.4Bosnia and Herzegovina
• 2.5Czech Republic
• 2.6France
• 2.7Germany
  • 2.7.1§ 130 Incitement to hatred
  • 2.7.2Other sections
• 2.8Greece
• 2.9Hungary
• 2.10Israel
• 2.11Italy
• 2.12Liechtenstein
• 2.13Lithuania
• 2.14Luxembourg
• 2.15Netherlands
• 2.16Poland
• 2.17Portugal
• 2.18Romania
• 2.19Russia
• 2.20Slovakia
• 2.21Spain
• 2.22Switzerland

No USA in that list.

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BTW, what does the Pakistani Constitution say about Freedom of Speech and how does it apply to these five citizens of Pakistan?

 

[Clutch]

USA has absolutely no laws denying the Holocaust. Deny all anyone wants! The First Amendment works equally for all points of view.

Europe does.. And Canada

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

USA imports NO oil from Iraq.



So where is the Charge Sheet? What is the process defined under law for dealing with such alleged miscreants? Why is that law not being followed?

Read their posts. It's in open.

 

[VCheng]

Read their posts. It's in open.

What is in the open? Expressing personal views? What crime under Pakistani law has been charged to warrant abduction, and most importantly, by whom?

Europe does.. And Canada

Not my problem.

 

[Clutch]

What is in the open? Expressing personal views? What crime under Pakistani law has been charged to warrant abduction, and most importantly, by whom?

I'm actually left leaning liberal... have atheists friends... and I am not overtly religious.. But if you start sweating at the Prophet and defiling the Quran you cross the line.

Otherwise... pakistan is for everyone for the Muslim shia, Sunni. Ahmadi, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, and atheists or agnostics. But never forget the country was founded on La-Ilaha-Illalah. Curse that... then pack you bags.

No, we have boundaries. We are Pakistan. Don't like it ... take a hike SOUTH across the border... you can swear at the Prophet calling him vile names while sitting in Modi's lap all day long.

Just as in Israel... defile Judaism and the Torah or Moses ... then pack your bags.

Not my problem.

But your standard ... when it's convenient...

 

[VCheng]

I'm actually left leaning liberal... have atheists friends... and I am not overtly religious.. But if you start sweating at the Prophet and defiling the Quran you cross the line.

Otherwise... pakistan is for everyone for the Muslim shia, Sunni. Ahmadi, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, and atheists or agnostics. But never forget the country was founded on La-Ilaha-Ihhalah. Curse that... then pack you bags.

No, we have boundaries. We are Pakistan. Don't like it ... take a hike SOUTH across the border... you can swear at the Prophet calling him vile names while sitting in Modi's lap all day long.

Just as in Israel... defile Judaism and the Torah or Moses ... then pack your bags.

All of what you say is okay and I have no problem with it, any of it.

All I want to see is due process of law applied to ALL citizens. What lawful authority is being applied here?

But your standard ... when it's convenient...

Nope. My standards are always consistent.

 

[django]

When will you stand up for rights of people in Guantanamo bay?

@bold... Look who is talking? A person who supports all inhuman crimes of the mighty USA..... Should i remind you some activities of your beloved USA? Where were those weapons of mass destruction as claimed by USA? And for which a country like Iraq was destablised? How many ppl were killed there?

Enough with your lecturing......God... Your hypocrisy is mind boggling

@Horus i think time has come for members like him to be permanently banned.. No more waiting and watching

I hope mods take heed of your advice.Kudos

 

[Clutch]

All of what you say is okay and I have no problem with it, any of it.

All I want to see is due process of law applied to ALL citizens. What lawful authority is being applied here?



Nope. My standards are always consistent.

I wholeheartedly agree... it should be done with due process... i am totally against vigilantly justice... against mob rule...

I am in the same sence against the blasphemy law...

Sorry then, I don't think i have an argument against you... i just thought you thought it was ok in Pakistan for neo-liberals to openly swear at the Prophet under the guide of free speech.

 

[django]

one phrase, i believe shows the mentality of our nation, as the world says,
stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
and in a semi tribal society, like ours we say,
we will take out our sticks and pick stones the moment your words hurt me..
well as it seems to be the collective wisdom of our entire nation that words do more damage then broken bones and cut off ears and noses, such things are justifiable.
where dead rule beyond graves, living will always have a hard time living..
that the story of our society..

OH NO Look who is is back.... @Chauvinist @war&peace @Moonlight @The Sandman

 

[VCheng]

I wholeheartedly agree... it should be done with due process... i am totally against vigilantly justice... against mob rule...

I am in the same sence against the blasphemy law...

Exactly. I may not agree with anything they are accused of, but I will defend their right to due process of law. No matter what.