BGB killed 4 Myanmar military members in response to unprovoked attack and killing 1 BGB member

[Bandula]

Arakan was part of Bengal history too despite it was not part of the Bengal empire. 50% of the original Arakanese population was Bengali which included Chittagong too. Muslim ruled Arakan as much as Buddhist ruled Arakan. Now that you dont want the left over of Bengalis there who had shared history with Rakhanie. Yet you can see, Rakhaie people has no problem in Bangldesh, neither they fight with Rohingyas in this part of the border. We accepted them as our citizen as we got them within our geographical border in 1947. We did not ask them to prove whether they were the original tribes of this land or not. Its not only Rakhanie but the Marma poeple who were from Burma too and helped portugese and dutch pirates to plunder Bengal and kill people became Bangladeshi citizen too. They were originally called Mog but they changed the name to Marma, only to disassociate them from piracy in the middle ages.

Rakhine people, Bangladesh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Marma people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your approach to history was true when we talking about geographic land but it is not true if we talk about ethnic. Arakanese people are originally Rakhine people. They are not any part of Bengali ethnic. Notice on the 'ese word. Chinese. Vietnamese, Burmese, the all 'eses are of Mongolian's genetic.

Talking about Rohingya. Rakhine ethnic group is the one who doesn't want to stay along with Rohingya. It is not Burmese ethnic. They don't believe of sharing land in peace with Rohingya ethnic since Rohingya residents have been committing crimes against on Rakhine ethnic, so they fought with Rohingya. We, Burmese are standing in the middle. We do want them living in peace but they just don't give trust on each other. It is Rakhine ethnic's state and it is their land, we are just backing up Rakhine. You guys are complaining Burmese over this crisis. It is okay. We don't care since Rakine and Bamar are in same blood.

Talking about citizen. In 1948, Burma got her independence and we accepted all living people in Burma as our citizen. Since Maungdaw is close to Bangladesh, more people from your side across the nef river came into Burma before 1978. That is the main reason we want to distinguish who are supposed to be Myanmar Citizens and who are not. People who had live before 1948 and their generation are Myanmar Citizen and new comers are not. By this reason, we also have Dutch and Potruguese's generation living before are titles as Myanmar Citizen. No problem with them. Why problem with Rohingya?

Talking about Citizenship law. It was drawn to help to distinguish who are originated native ethnic and who are not. For example, A Rakine doesn't matter where he lived before 1982, he is automatically eligible as Myanmar Citizen and his/her spouse (if not native) will not become a Citizen but their children will be. Rohingya nor any Bengali nor any Indian nor any Chinese who migrated in Burma later than 1948 will never become citizen. But they could be eligible to be foreign-Myanmar Citizen.

So all Rohingyas just need to prove their generations. (B.T.W All Myanmar citizen need to prove that when issuing citizen cards.) Guess what? People who know themselves they would not be eligible make rumors to those who don't know themselves they are eligible to be citizen. As a result, Citizen supposed to be group don't want to file to be citizen. Instead, they want all Rohingya becoming citizen automatically. That is the fact.

These problem will be solved when fencing is done and human trafficking is under controlled between MM and BD. Rohingya doesn't want that. So they have been trying to cause conflicts as many as possible between MM and BD.

(P.S. Rakhine residents in Bangladesh will never cause trouble to BD government nor BD people. Because they live themselves there as an foreigneers (even though they are BD citizen) and they know they limit. They will always behave as they are more like visitors who migrated in BD from Burma. But those Rohinyas will never behave like that. Trust me, Chinese do and they don't have problem about it. )

 

[TopCat]

Your approach to history was true when we talking about geographic land but it is not true if we talk about ethnic. Arakanese people are originally Rakhine people. They are not any part of Bengali ethnic. Notice on the 'ese word. Chinese. Vietnamese, Burmese, the all 'eses are of Mongolian's genetic.

Talking about Rohingya. Rakhine ethnic group is the one who doesn't want to stay along with Rohingya. It is not Burmese ethnic. They don't believe of sharing land in peace with Rohingya ethnic since Rohingya residents have been committing crimes against on Rakhine ethnic, so they fought with Rohingya. We, Burmese are standing in the middle. We do want them living in peace but they just don't give trust on each other. It is Rakhine ethnic's state and it is their land, we are just backing up Rakhine. You guys are complaining Burmese over this crisis. It is okay. We don't care since Rakine and Bamar are in same blood.

Talking about citizen. In 1948, Burma got her independence and we accepted all living people in Burma as our citizen. Since Maungdaw is close to Bangladesh, more people from your side across the nef river came into Burma before 1978. That is the main reason we want to distinguish who are supposed to be Myanmar Citizens and who are not. People who had live before 1948 and their generation are Myanmar Citizen and new comers are not. By this reason, we also have Dutch and Potruguese's generation living before are titles as Myanmar Citizen. No problem with them. Why problem with Rohingya?

Talking about Citizenship law. It was drawn to help to distinguish who are originated native ethnic and who are not. For example, A Rakine doesn't matter where he lived before 1982, he is automatically eligible as Myanmar Citizen and his/her spouse (if not native) will not become a Citizen but their children will be. Rohingya nor any Bengali nor any Indian nor any Chinese who migrated in Burma later than 1948 will never become citizen. But they could be eligible to be foreign-Myanmar Citizen.

So all Rohingyas just need to prove their generations. (B.T.W All Myanmar citizen need to prove that when issuing citizen cards.) Guess what? People who know themselves they would not be eligible make rumors to those who don't know themselves they are eligible to be citizen. As a result, Citizen supposed to be group don't want to file to be citizen. Instead, they want all Rohingya becoming citizen automatically. That is the fact.

These problem will be solved when fencing is done and human trafficking is under controlled between MM and BD. Rohingya doesn't want that. So they have been trying to cause conflicts as many as possible between MM and BD.

(P.S. Rakhine residents in Bangladesh will never cause trouble to BD government nor BD people. Because they live themselves there as an foreigneers (even though they are BD citizen) and they know they limit. They will always behave as they are more like visitors who migrated in BD from Burma. But those Rohinyas will never behave like that. Trust me, Chinese do and they don't have problem about it. )

Dude I wont be able to make you comprehend the idea of modern statehood when you live in a prehistoric stone aged country with similar laws. We dont distinguish between citizens and we dont have cut off dates. We dont have foreign citizen or local citizen. All citizens are equal in the eyes of law even if you become a citizen of this country tomorrow. Rakhaines, Marma's are as good as any Bengali in Bangladesh. It is basically you (Bamars) creating the problem as you are not setting the rules right. You are giving one group advantage over the others again you are saying you dont have problem with that. With that kind of mindset you wont be able to solve problem in any of your region let along Arakan. Anthropological border does not always follow geographical/political border which I tried to explain in my last post you are too dumb to comprehend. Even though the border was drawn in 1948 yet lots of ethnic Myanmarese fell into our territory and they were treated with open armed, we did not push them to Burma. But you guys failed to accommodate a small minority despite you have huge land mass. No wonder you are so backward till this day.

PS: what makes you think that a Bangladeshi will ever think of migrating to your shit hole country. It is the Rohingya who has nowhere to go trying to hang on to their own existence. Given opportunity half of Arakan will vacate to come to Bangladesh in a day including Rakhanies.

 

[waz]

Firstly hello and greetings to our Burmese guests.

Could the Burmese please inform me about the "969" anti-Muslim program. This is not being aimed at the Rohingya people but Burma's very own indigenous Muslims. How prevalent is this and how many Burmese support this?

BBC News - Monk accused of anti-Muslim Burmese campaign

Thank you very much for any information.

 

[Mattrixx]

Your approach to history was true when we talking about geographic land but it is not true if we talk about ethnic. Arakanese people are originally Rakhine people. They are not any part of Bengali ethnic. Notice on the 'ese word. Chinese. Vietnamese, Burmese, the all 'eses are of Mongolian's genetic.

Talking about Rohingya. Rakhine ethnic group is the one who doesn't want to stay along with Rohingya. It is not Burmese ethnic. They don't believe of sharing land in peace with Rohingya ethnic since Rohingya residents have been committing crimes against on Rakhine ethnic, so they fought with Rohingya. We, Burmese are standing in the middle. We do want them living in peace but they just don't give trust on each other. It is Rakhine ethnic's state and it is their land, we are just backing up Rakhine. You guys are complaining Burmese over this crisis. It is okay. We don't care since Rakine and Bamar are in same blood.

Talking about citizen. In 1948, Burma got her independence and we accepted all living people in Burma as our citizen. Since Maungdaw is close to Bangladesh, more people from your side across the nef river came into Burma before 1978. That is the main reason we want to distinguish who are supposed to be Myanmar Citizens and who are not. People who had live before 1948 and their generation are Myanmar Citizen and new comers are not. By this reason, we also have Dutch and Potruguese's generation living before are titles as Myanmar Citizen. No problem with them. Why problem with Rohingya?

Talking about Citizenship law. It was drawn to help to distinguish who are originated native ethnic and who are not. For example, A Rakine doesn't matter where he lived before 1982, he is automatically eligible as Myanmar Citizen and his/her spouse (if not native) will not become a Citizen but their children will be. Rohingya nor any Bengali nor any Indian nor any Chinese who migrated in Burma later than 1948 will never become citizen. But they could be eligible to be foreign-Myanmar Citizen.

So all Rohingyas just need to prove their generations. (B.T.W All Myanmar citizen need to prove that when issuing citizen cards.) Guess what? People who know themselves they would not be eligible make rumors to those who don't know themselves they are eligible to be citizen. As a result, Citizen supposed to be group don't want to file to be citizen. Instead, they want all Rohingya becoming citizen automatically. That is the fact.

These problem will be solved when fencing is done and human trafficking is under controlled between MM and BD. Rohingya doesn't want that. So they have been trying to cause conflicts as many as possible between MM and BD.

(P.S. Rakhine residents in Bangladesh will never cause trouble to BD government nor BD people. Because they live themselves there as an foreigneers (even though they are BD citizen) and they know they limit. They will always behave as they are more like visitors who migrated in BD from Burma. But those Rohinyas will never behave like that. Trust me, Chinese do and they don't have problem about it. )

Moghul Prince & the forgotten Muslims of Myanmar (KAMANS)

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Shah Shuja was the second son of Moghul Emperor Shah Jahan of India and (the famous queen of love) queen Mantaz Mahal. In 1639 A.D. Shah Shuja became the governor of Bengal. He was a clever and brave soldier. But he indulged to enjoyment than administration. But his younger brother Aurangzeb, the governor of Deccan (southern) state was very industrious, intelligent and a good administrator.

Finally, Aurangzeb controlled the throne after dethroning his father.

His youngest brother Murad was put into jail and Aurangzeb had declared himself to be the Emperor of Hindustan. Shah Shuja, the Governor of Bengal denounced Aurangzeb’s claim and advanced with his forces to dethrone Aurangzeb. On the way, Mir Jumla, the general of Aurangzeb fought with Shah Shuja and he was defeated at Khajwa, at the north of Allahabad on 5 January 1658 A.D…

Then Aurangzeb put his elder brother Dara to jail, to whom he promised to reappoint him as the governor of Punjab and was crowned on 21st July as Emperor of India. In 1660 A.D. Mir Jumla conquered Bengal and defeated Shah Shuja at Dhaka. According to ‘Alamgirnamah‘, Shah Shuja had three sons Zain-al-din, Buland Akter, Zain-al-Abedin and three daughters Gulrukh Banu, Raushan Ara Begum or Mah Khanan and Amena Banu. His wife is Piaree or Piara Banu. On Sunday, 6th May 1660, Shah Shuja fled with his treasures and family with an army of 3000 archers to Mrauk-U (Mrohaung).They arrived at Chittagong on 3rd June 1660 A.D. From thence they had arrived at the capital Mrauk-U on 26th August 1660 A.D. On the way he stayed at Maungdaw. The village, where he stayed a few days at Maungdaw, is still known as Shujapara.

The intention of Shah Shuja was to go to Holy Makkah, where he wanted to pass his rest of life. Sanda Thudama (1651-1684 A.D.), the king of Arakan, granted him asylum and give a house at the foot of Babu hill (Mintha Taung) on the right bank of Wathee creek (near the Palace) with full facilities. The king also promised to provide a ship for travelling to Holy Makkah. But he wanted to break the promise for his lust for his daughter and teasures. The king had never seen such huge treasure brought by Shah Shuja. Time passed in many months. But the king kept silent about his promised-ship. He sent messengers for the ship. Sanda Thudama refused it and complained about Shuja’s failure to come and ask him about the ship.

Shah Shuja was afraid of being seized if he visited the king. He sent his son. Sultan Banque with various rich brocades and rare pieces of gold smith’s work, set with precious stones of great values. But the king wanted to seize all his treasure and find out a lame excuse. So, Sanda Thudama asked the hand of Shuja’s daughter Ameena, though he knew very well that Sultan Shuja would never consent, he, being a pagan and she a Muslim princess of the imperial Moghul family members which were strong believers in the tenets of the Muslim faith. As Shah Shuja refused the suit, the king ordered him to leave the country within three days. Aurangazeb, a brother from the same mother womb became his deadly enemy and he had no ship to proceed for Makkah. To die was cast. To live, Shah Shuja had to dare.

According to Arakanese Chronicles of that period tells that Shah Shuja was only too happy to give his daughter to the king of Arakan in gratitude for the asylum granted, however, when he saw that had lost the Moghul throne, he decided to conquer Arakan and make himself king with the help of his own soldiers, the Muslim soldiers under king’s army and the local Muslim population, but the plot was uncovered; he fled to the hill, was captured and executed. The historian Sir Arthur Phayre thinks that the Arakanese Chronicles conceal their king’s ugly behavior, and emphasise the prince’s abortive experiment to capture the palace by neglecting to mention the preceding provocation of not providing the promise ships, the king’s request to have one of Shah Shuja daughter’s in marriage and his wish to molest the prince’s riches. Phayre quotes no source of his opinion, which is apparently only his personal point of view, but a decidedly acceptable one.

In the support of SirA. P. Phayre’sopinionNiccolao Manucci, a Venetian gunner, in service with Prince Dara was in India between the years 1656-1712 A.D. This work ‘Storia do mogor or Mogul India’ (1653-1708 A.D.) corroborates, and especially in perfuse detail the slaughter of the Mughal Prince Shah Shuja and his family. He says:

He confided this design to some of his people by whom it was approved. But they were not able to carry out the project with the called-for secrecy, and though the delay they made there was time for the King of Arakan to hear of the plot. He planned the assassination of Shah Shuja and all his adherents, and to this intent called to him his four principal captains, each of whom had three thousand armed men …….. To these he issued orders that one morning of daybreak they should all with one accord shout “Long live the King of Arakan! Death to Shah Shuja and all traitors!” Under cover of these, they were to kill everyone. The captains carried out the order of their king, killing everybody they encountered. Upon this news reaching the unfortunate prince Shah Shuja, he tried to save his life by getting on his elephant, hoping that he might thereby impose some respect for his person.

But it was grievous to see the fury with which the Maghs came on, throwing everything into disorder, with blows and shouts and cries, some saying “Death to the Prince Shah Shuja!” others,”Death to his son. Prince Bang!” “Slay those traitorous Moguls who fled here from Bengal!” Prince Bang was taken prisoner, while Shah Shuja with a few men fled to the jungle. He made liberal use of the bags of jewels and pearls, which he scattered among these savages, attempting by the use of these valuables to mitigate the rage of the soldiers and gain a free passage for his flight. But the Maghs paid no heed to his proffered wealth; they pursued the poor prince like famishing wolves, cutting his body into pieces, stripping it bare, and plundering all his valuables………..

So, on 7th February 1661 A.D. Shah Shuja fled to the forest with some of his followers. The Magh chased them like faminishing wild wolves. Ultimately the Magh caught Sultan Shah Shuja and chopped him into pieces and plundering all his valuables. The family of Shah Shuja was arrested by the Magh Raja.

According to D.G.E Hall, on 25th July 1663 A.D., the Royal Palace had been fired by 10 or 12 desperate “Mogolders” and burnt to the ground. In the general confusion Manaw-thiri, the Governor of Mrauk-U, was burnt to death and the king and his family bearly escaped with their lives. Shah Shuja’s three sons were suspected of having been the cause of it and the king gave orders for the total extermination of Shuja’s family. Sultan Banque and his brother were decapitated with blunt axes, and the ill fated families were closely confined in their apartments. Piara Banu, Shah Shuja’s wife, when approached by king Sanda Thudhamma in his seraglio, is supposed to have killed with a dagger while her two elder daughters took poison and died. The youngest, Amena Banu, was forcibly taken as wife by the king but languished in captivity and left to die of hunger. It has been confirmed by most accounts that Amena Banu, at the time other assassination was pregnant; her killing was probably the crowning inequity of king Sanda thudhamama among all his other misdeeds.

Many Bengali & Rohingya Muslims had been plundered and massacred by the order of the king.

Shah Alaol, the great poet and writer who flourished in Arakan Court, also confirmed in his writings Saiful Muluk Baduzzaman and Sikandar Nama referring to the wholesale killings and imprisonments of the Muslims of Mrauk-U. In the reign of terror which followed the abortive rising, Aloal himself, an innocent citizen of Mrauk-U, was incarcerated in prison for a period of 50-days on the basis of the reports of tell-tales and was only released by strong intercession on his behalf.

The fate of Shah Shuja was heard by the Emperor Aurangazeb. Sanda Thudama knew that the Mughal would retaliate it. In advance the Magh Raja ordered the Portugese at Dainga and Sandip to advance to Dhaka. On the way they destroyed 40 ships of the Subeder (governor) of Bengal. So, Emperor Aurangazeb ordered to break the nest of the pirates of Magh and Portugese.

Shayista Khan, the governor of Bengal captured Sandip in 1665 with the cooperation of Dutch. Sanda Thudama had doubt about the loyalty of the Portugese. The Portugese in turn doubt about their safety. So, they fled to the side of Shayista Khan with 42 war ships.

In February 1666, Shayista Khan’s son General Buzuruk Omed Khan captured Chittagong with the help of288-war ships. After the captured of Chittagong the Mughals conquered Ramu within 36 hours. Two thousand Maghs were sold as slaves. The fleeing Magh soldiers were chased by the local Muslims.

Moghuls did not keep control of Arakan because the aim of the Mughul Emperor was only to control Bengal and to break the nest of the pirates. They could easily control Arakan because the Portugese and the Dutch were on their side.

If Shah Shuja planned to seize the throne of Arakan was true and the secrecy of the Shah Shuja was not known to Magh Raja, Shah Shuja could easily captured the throne of Arakan and the course of Arakanese history might have been changed.

After the loss of Chittagong and Ramu, out of fear, the Rakhine Maghs of North Arakan fled to the South. Many Muslims migrated to North Arakan.

Some of the followers of Shah Shuja escaped the persecution of Maghs and crossed to Burma. The king of Ava settled them in Ramethin, Shwebo, Maydu, Meiktila, Their descendants can be found even today at these places. Detail was written by U-Mya (I) in his Short History of Burmese Muslims.

The descendants of Shah Shuja’s Kaman archers were incorporated in the army of Arakan king. Their descendants still survive in Arakan among the Rohingyas with their special name “Ethnic Kamans” in Arakan. Kaman is a Persian word means a bow (since they were archer of Shah Shuja). They speak Rakhine Magh language but retain their Muslim faith and Afghan features.

Out of Myanmar's 7 million Muslims more than half are ROHINGYAS AND KAMANS.
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Bangladesh govt and media in particular ought to bring the plight of these Muslims to world community i.e. UN, OIC, Arab Leage, ASEAN (Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei in particular). History shows the barbarian nature of the Rakhine (Moghs) hasn't changed in the last 500 years. The only force the reckoned with was the cannons of Shaista Khan. Civilized diplomacy would achieve very little. A strong military threat(even if only in papers) from Bangladesh-Pakistan & Malaysia, coupled with smart diplomacy with China could compel the thugs of Myanmar give Muslims of Myanmar the right to live with dignity as humans.

 

[Bandula]

Dude I wont be able to make you comprehend the idea of modern statehood when you live in a prehistoric stone aged country with similar laws. We dont distinguish between citizens and we dont have cut off dates. We dont have foreign citizen or local citizen. All citizens are equal in the eyes of law even if you become a citizen of this country tomorrow. Rakhaines, Marma's are as good as any Bengali in Bangladesh. It is basically you (Bamars) creating the problem as you are not setting the rules right. You are giving one group advantage over the others again you are saying you dont have problem with that. With that kind of mindset you wont be able to solve problem in any of your region let along Arakan. Anthropological border does not always follow geographical/political border which I tried to explain in my last post you are too dumb to comprehend. Even though the border was drawn in 1948 yet lots of ethnic Myanmarese fell into our territory and they were treated with open armed, we did not push them to Burma. But you guys failed to accommodate a small minority despite you have huge land mass. No wonder you are so backward till this day.

PS: what makes you think that a Bangladeshi will ever think of migrating to your shit hole country. It is the Rohingya who has nowhere to go trying to hang on to their own existence. Given opportunity half of Arakan will vacate to come to Bangladesh in a day including Rakhanies.

You said that. >>>You are giving one group advantage over the others again you are saying you dont have problem with that. <<<<
What you said was not exactly what I meant. You guys keep complaining Burmese without trying to look into their problem deeply. As a result, we don't want to care anymore on you guy's complaints. It was what I meant.
Again, Rakhine ethnic is the one who do not trust on Rohingya's anymore. That is main problem.
Let me explain you one thing. My English is limited but I will try to explain you with my best. Rakhine literally means Rakitta that means keeping their ethnic blood without mixing with any other kinds (including Burmese). We find it racism but it is their mind concept. We don't need to push them to change their mind. It will change gradually one day. They usually rely on rumors and they take upon rumors very seriously. ( Rohingya does as well).
When they have seen or heard some thing they don't like, such as ( what eastwatch said is for instance ) Arakan was under Bengali's land in history, so Bengali wants it back. Seriously, they don't like to hear or see that kinds of words anywhere. When they do, they bring those unreasonable full lied words to their generations and rumors spread around for centuries. As a result, they are scared of seeing of Bengali living in their areas and they don't want to see them.
Moreover, Rohingya started to write an bad images in Rakhine's minds. In 1942, Residents of Bengali killed and pushed Rakhine ethnics from their land.
Wiki said (( Rohingya people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ))
" Aye Chan, a historian at the Kanda University, has written that as a consequence of acquiring arms from the British during World War II, Rohingyas tried to destroy the Arakanese villages instead of resisting the Japanese.[50] On 28 March 1942, Rohingya Muslims from Northern Rakhine State killed around 20,000 Arakanese. In return, around 5,000 Muslims in the Minbya and Mrohaung Townships were killed by Rakhine nationalists and Karenni.[48] :
I didn't try to explain anything here who started hatred and untrusted between them. I just wanted to explain you to see more deeply in the problem.
Another one thing that Rakine ethnic don't believe on Rohingya that Rohingya come with another strategy by creating new terms Rohingya into the history. They claimed that this term was unknown before 1950. As a result, hatred and untrusted are born in Rakhine ethnic group.
That is why problem and tension exist in that area. If no one talks about retakes nor Rakhine was under Bengal for centuries something like that, they will be cool down and those two ethnic group can stay in peace together. If BD wants them in peace too and wants to solve the Rohingya problem, just please don't create any rumors nor lies like invading Arakan or Retaking Arakan. If not, they both will be okay back again.
In Rangoon or many places in middle Burma and also in Karan State, there are many Bengali ethnic living there and all are living along with the other residents.
The problem between them couldn't be able to solve in a short period. So please don't push them to get rush. Pushing will cause more tension.

Please answer this question. Are there Rohingya ethnics living in BD as Citizen of BD on and after 1947 or on and 1971? And how many population of them is there?

 

[Bandula]

Firstly hello and greetings to our Burmese guests.

Could the Burmese please inform me about the "969" anti-Muslim program. This is not being aimed at the Rohingya people but Burma's very own indigenous Muslims. How prevalent is this and how many Burmese support this?

BBC News - Monk accused of anti-Muslim Burmese campaign

Thank you very much for any information.

First of all, as far as I understand, 969 is not exactly Anti Muslim program. It is a movement of trying to have more population in 100% blood on native residents. Like the way some native American (red Indians) doesn't want to mix their blood with white or black in USA. They believe that by doing this, pure blood of Myanmar will last long to the ends of world.
But for those who doesn't understand very well on this, they misunderstood 969 movement is anti Muslim program. But It is not like pushing Muslim away or giving Muslim hard time living in the country. Not like that. It is just trying to protect Myanmar ethnic blood in the way of as they believe.
As for me personally, I believe the world is changing and we can't keep 100% blood. I believe that all blood (White, black, Asian, Arabian) will mix one day together and there will be no land standing as a country but standing as region governments or a state governments which are trying to develop their regions and trying to have peace and trying to apply laws with many-many-forbidden on freedom.
Rakhine ethnic loves this movement since they already wanted to keep their Rakhine ethnic in 100% pure alone themselves. They don't even want to mix with the rest of Burmese ethnics. And this movement is only motivated in large cities. Not at all places. So we could say roughly in 20% in those cities and for the whole country may be under 7% supporting it. Can't be more than that.
I hope my answer help.

 

[kobiraaz]

Kinda funny when People compare Bangladesh Army with Myanmar Army. Bangladesh spends 1 % of its budget for Military but Myanmar used to spend 25% of its budget even a year ago. Still its above 10%.

 

[Bandula]

Kinda funny when People compare Bangladesh Army with Myanmar Army. Bangladesh spends 1 % of its budget for Military but Myanmar used to spend 25% of its budget even a year ago. Still its above 10%.

There is no good system on paying income taxes to government. It is the main reason that government has low income and It causes on higher expenses on Military expenses. The % rate will go down for sure in next 5 years but it will get higher in total amount.

 

[Mockingjay]

N

Kinda funny when People compare Bangladesh Army with Myanmar Army. Bangladesh spends 1 % of its budget for Military but Myanmar used to spend 25% of its budget even a year ago. Still its above 10%.

yes, it is true and, they are going to say ''our economy is 2 times bigger than myanmar'', but they never think, their population is 3-4 times bigger and their country size is as tiny as 3-4 times smaller than myanmar. On top of that half of the area will go under water soon. It will be like living in hell. No wonder, for those people who live within lies and fakes, why their funny fairy tale said Rakhine was like theirs. keep on dreaming. TO BD You are not a match for myanmar. all you need to do is, try to accomodate in your tiny land and feed all your people not to be slave by westen, Indian and myanmar.

 

[kobiraaz]

N

yes, it is true and, they are going to say ''our economy is 2 times bigger than myanmar'', but they never think, their population is 3-4 times bigger and their country size is as tiny as 3-4 times smaller than myanmar. On top of that half of the area will go under water soon. It will be like living in hell. No wonder, for those people who live within lies and fakes, why their funny fairy tale said Rakhine was like theirs. keep on dreaming. TO BD You are not a match for myanmar. all you need to do is, try to accomodate in your tiny land and feed all your people not to be slave by westen, Indian and myanmar.

So ? More population More GDP More spending power. Hint - India. But fortunately for you - we choose to invest in non military sector like Education, health. And you talk as if you per capita is better than ours. You are still poorer. This tiny natión with 3 times more population has less unemployment rate than Burma.

First try to get out of your hell hole and then think about Enslaving Bangladesh- one of the Next 11.

 

[asad71]

This becomes another proof which is explaining that many Bangladeshis are mastered in manufacturing fake news, rumors and lies. Shame on them.
This officer was Major Kyaw Htin Aung who got shot by sniper man from KIA while leaders of KIA is being in peace talk with Myanmar Government. KIA doesn't have fully control on their men like the way BGB can't control their.

No I don't buy that claim. Bwy, there is also a Muslim insurgent group fighting the Bamar invaders in Karen.

Arakan was part of Bengal history too despite it was not part of the Bengal empire. 50% of the original Arakanese population was Bengali which included Chittagong too. Muslim ruled Arakan as much as Buddhist ruled Arakan. Now that you dont want the left over of Bengalis there who had shared history with Rakhanie. Yet you can see, Rakhaie people has no problem in Bangldesh, neither they fight with Rohingyas in this part of the border. We accepted them as our citizen as we got them within our geographical border in 1947. We did not ask them to prove whether they were the original tribes of this land or not. Its not only Rakhanie but the Marma poeple who were from Burma too and helped portugese and dutch pirates to plunder Bengal and kill people became Bangladeshi citizen too. They were originally called Mog but they changed the name to Marma, only to disassociate them from piracy in the middle ages.

Rakhine people, Bangladesh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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A Muslim Sultanate had flourished in Arakan for 365 years. Their magnificent capital, M-raku, was totally leveled by Bamar invaders destroying much of Arakan's Islamic heritage. For instance, the great library they had built fashioning after the famed library of Cordoba was totally burnt down.

First of all, as far as I understand, 969 is not exactly Anti Muslim program. It is a movement of trying to have more population in 100% blood on native residents. Like the way some native American (red Indians) doesn't want to mix their blood with white or black in USA. They believe that by doing this, pure blood of Myanmar will last long to the ends of world.
But for those who doesn't understand very well on this, they misunderstood 969 movement is anti Muslim program. But It is not like pushing Muslim away or giving Muslim hard time living in the country. Not like that. It is just trying to protect Myanmar ethnic blood in the way of as they believe.
As for me personally, I believe the world is changing and we can't keep 100% blood. I believe that all blood (White, black, Asian, Arabian) will mix one day together and there will be no land standing as a country but standing as region governments or a state governments which are trying to develop their regions and trying to have peace and trying to apply laws with many-many-forbidden on freedom.
Rakhine ethnic loves this movement since they already wanted to keep their Rakhine ethnic in 100% pure alone themselves. They don't even want to mix with the rest of Burmese ethnics. And this movement is only motivated in large cities. Not at all places. So we could say roughly in 20% in those cities and for the whole country may be under 7% supporting it. Can't be more than that.
I hope my answer help.

This is called apartheid.

 

[Mockingjay]

We csn

So ? More population More GDP More spending power. Hint - Indrtunately for you - we choose to invest in non military sector like Education, health. And you talk as if you per capita is better than ours. You are still poorer. This tiny natión with 3 times more population has less unemployment rate than Burma.

First try to get out of your hell hole and then think about Enslaving Bangladesh- one of the Next 11.

We can switch the way of our spending anytime necessary but for you, living in a pussy size country with unstopable population and going to sink soon. Think a bout it, what will happen next in 2020. india is very different. They have enough land and the country itself is stable until you guys do not migrate. Whatever, you say you invest in education and other sectors, what i can see your country is just a capitalism and most of you guys are no more than a slave working for capalists. Btw, measurement of unemployment is useless for us as we have lands to grow and place to live. Do you say someone is unemployment if he grow himself or when it is enough only if one parter works. Unemployment rate is only for your capitalist salvery country, not for us. Watch ''cooperstion'' documentary, it said bd is askibg the whole world to hire you people. Funny but i would say more stupidly. You guys dont know what you look like.

 

[BDforever]

We can switch the way of our spending anytime necessary but for you, living in a pussy size country with unstopable population and going to sink soon. Think a bout it, what will happen next in 2020. india is very different. They have enough land and the country itself is stable until you guys do not migrate. Whatever, you say you invest in education and other sectors, what i can see your country is just a capitalism and most of you guys are no more than a slave working for capalists. Btw, measurement of unemployment is useless for us as we have lands to grow and place to live. Do you say someone is unemployment if he grow himself or when it is enough only if one parter works. Unemployment rate is only for your capitalist salvery country, not for us. Watch ''cooperstion'' documentary, it said bd is askibg the whole world to hire you people. Funny but i would say more stupidly. You guys doesnt know what you look like.

ahahaha you are one of perfect example of little educated people

 

[Bandula]

No I don't buy that claim. Bwy, there is also a Muslim insurgent group fighting the Bamar invaders in Karen.



A Muslim Sultanate had flourished in Arakan for 365 years. Their magnificent capital, M-raku, was totally leveled by Bamar invaders destroying much of Arakan's Islamic heritage. For instance, the great library they had built fashioning after the famed library of Cordoba was totally burnt down.




This is called apartheid.

Apartheid can show more kindness than religious terrorist. Moreover it has only under 7% followers. Religious terrorist % in BD is more that that rate. Look back your country and speak for that with out loud.

Btw. .show me your research on false history you referred.

 

[Mockingjay]

ahahaha you are one of perfect example of little educated people

I am glad, you know my point